Farmboy (X) vs Amon Sul (A+16)

[Amon-Sul]

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
              ANZAC take Sumatra from Dutch
        3 fighters moved from Java to Yunnan
        1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from New Zealand to 63 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 62 Sea Zone to New South Wales

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 artillery placed in New South Wales
        1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs
        Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 21 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 24 PUs

    Politics - French
        French takes Political Action: Political Action French To War With Japanese
            French succeeds on action: Political Action French To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War
            French succeeds on action: Political Action French To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 destroyer moved from 58 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[Amon-Sul]

This game is so cool. I am truly enjoying it :)

My first time tryin this (entire) strategy. I suppose its more or less unique, and that U havent met if before.

[farmboy]

@Amon-Sul Yeah, I haven’t seen this kind of early pressure on Japan before. Its a challenge. And I think I was already a little sloppy on my J2 despite spending a lot of time thinking about it. But of course the danger of this approach is what happens in Europe.

[farmboy]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 3

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 1 armour, 1 fighter, 7 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Germans
        Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
        Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
            Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 armour moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
              Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
        1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
              Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
        2 armour and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
        7 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
        6 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
              Germans take Karelia from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
              Germans take Vyborg from Russians

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Baltic States
            Germans attack with 2 armour, 2 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 2 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/11 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
            Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 2 armour, 2 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        6 artilleries moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
        1 aaGun moved from Poland to Baltic States
        5 artilleries moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        6 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia
        1 aaGun moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        1 aaGun moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        9 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland
        1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Poland
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Egypt
        1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Egypt
        1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Egypt
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Egypt
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
        1 aaGun and 2 artilleries moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
        15 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        1 submarine moved from 121 Sea Zone to 120 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Egypt

    Place Units - Germans
        1 fighter placed in Western Germany
        1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 7 mech_infantrys placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs
        Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
        Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 54 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0.33
Germans regular : -1.50

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[Amon-Sul]

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 1 artillery and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

    Combat - Russians
        Germans scrambles 1 units out of Western Germany to defend against the attack in 113 Sea Zone
        Battle in 113 Sea Zone
            Russians attack with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
            Germans defend with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 transport in 113 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans, 1 submarine owned by the Russians and 1 cruiser owned by the Russians lost in 113 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
            Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
        Moving scrambled unit from 113 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Western Germany

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        7 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
        1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
        2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
        6 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
        2 armour, 2 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Sikang to Yunnan
        6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
        1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
        1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel

    Place Units - Russians
        1 artillery and 9 infantry placed in Russia
        2 infantry placed in Volgograd

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 39 PUs
        Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 41 PUs
        Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 1.33
Russians regular : 0.17

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[Amon-Sul]

My forces stay in Amur.

Japan is good to go.

cheers

[Amon-Sul]

That sub in sz 120 gives me pain. But I hope it is destroyed soon ha :)

[Amon-Sul]

Yunnan stack has 43 units from 4 nations.

[Amon-Sul]

@farmboy said in Farmboy (X) vs Amon Sul (A+16):

@Amon-Sul Yeah, I haven’t seen this kind of early pressure on Japan before. Its a challenge. And I think I was already a little sloppy on my J2 despite spending a lot of time thinking about it. But of course the danger of this approach is what happens in Europe.

Well, I was refering to my UK strategy as well.

I usually do not allow Italians to take Egypt, and do not have so much air and sea units in the Med.

My default strategy before was attacking Taranto on UK1.

And i suppose U dont buy Yugo airfield on G1 often.

[farmboy]

@Amon-Sul said in Farmboy (X) vs Amon Sul (A+16):

@farmboy said in Farmboy (X) vs Amon Sul (A+16):

@Amon-Sul Yeah, I haven’t seen this kind of early pressure on Japan before. Its a challenge. And I think I was already a little sloppy on my J2 despite spending a lot of time thinking about it. But of course the danger of this approach is what happens in Europe.

Well, I was refering to my UK strategy as well.

I usually do not allow Italians to take Egypt, and do not have so much air and sea units in the Med.

My default strategy before was attacking Taranto on UK1.

And i suppose U dont buy Yugo airfield on G1 often.

I sometimes do. I do try to protect the Italian fleet as much as I can (and especially if Taranto isn’t done.) A reason I always want the Germans to take Yugo is to make sure that they can share the spending load with the Italians in defending it.

The British carrier was an interesting bid. And it changes the situation in the Med a fair bit. I had thought you would more likely go for Taranto since it entailed either a more difficult trade for the German air after or that you could do Taranto and keep a portion of hte British fleet alive.

I didn’t expect you to retreat from Egypt. I didn’t count the odds but was pretty sure you could hold it. I’ll be curious to see how that plays out. But in Europe I feel I have more room to maneuver than I do in the Pacific where I think Japan is already struggling. But still an early game.

Will likely get to my turn tomorrow (although I am due to play the turn in my other game first).

[Amon-Sul]

Well, my plan was to threaten the Adriatic heavily, but the problem with parking the UK fleet there is that that battle is always risky + the Axis can choose to scramble or choose to not to.

Other maybe even crucial problem is that i cant hold Greece. Even if I take it, Italy and/or Germany can retake it, and if U attack my navy in the Adriatic i have a problem with my planes unable to land, so i have to keep ACs undamaged till the end of the battle, which severely decreaces my odds.

[Amon-Sul]

Then i decided to stack in sz 93 since i can merge with French dudes there.

But U ve decided to trigger Vichy to prevent it, all though it cost U a fig, and will cost U some IPCs (allies taking French territories).
But u gain early gains with destruction of my French navy, and with IPCs and units in NW Africa.

Then, my plan was slightly disrupted, and I was planing to attack Adriatic, but with Ur blocker and Yugo airfield U were able to prevent it.

I am not sure if i could defend Egypt. Maybe I would, but then I would have my navy much more exposed to ur forces.

I decided to go this way. We shall see if it payes out.

[Amon-Sul]

If i understood well from Ur posts, some dude attack Yugo with Italy?

Yeah, i like the Egypt AC bid. It gives a lot of options to UK.

[farmboy]

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 4.0.0

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor, 3 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
              Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
        1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kiangsi
        2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
        1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Java
        1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Sumatra
        1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
        1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
        1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Malaya
        1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kiangsi
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Kwangtung

    Combat - Japanese
        Battle in Borneo
        Battle in Celebes
        Battle in 41 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 41 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking 41 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
        Battle in Java
            Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in Java, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java
            Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
        Battle in Kwangtung
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kwangtung, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangtung
            Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Sumatra
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Sumatra, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Sumatra
            Japanese win, taking Sumatra from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
        Battle in Kiangsi
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kiangsi, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kiangsi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kiangsi
            Japanese win, taking Kiangsi from Chinese with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry
        Battle in Malaya
            Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry
            ANZAC defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Malaya
            Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 armour, 4 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
        1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Anhwe
        1 aaGun moved from Anhwe to Hunan
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Anhwe to Hunan
        1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Manchuria
        1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Japan to Hunan
        1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to 41 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to 42 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
        1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 20 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun and 1 marine moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
        2 infantry moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
        4 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
        1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Malaya to Hunan
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
        1 destroyer moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to 43 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 20 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol

    Place Units - Japanese
        1 carrier and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone
        3 infantry placed in Manchuria
        1 factory_minor placed in Kiangsu

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs
        Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 41 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 43 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.33
Japanese regular : -2.00
UK_Pacific regular : -0.67
ANZAC regular : -0.67

Savegame

[farmboy]

@Amon-Sul said in Farmboy (X) vs Amon Sul (A+16):

If i understood well from Ur posts, some dude attack Yugo with Italy?

Yeah, i like the Egypt AC bid. It gives a lot of options to UK.

Yeah. Its an option I see sometimes. I used to do it as well when I did a G2 DOW since you could attack Yugo with Germany and then retreat German units East so that they are at the front quicker.

And I wasn’t planning on Vichy, but your setup forced me into it.

[Amon-Sul]

@farmboy

Yes, I know U havent planned Vichy, but my UK sz 93 move was the trigger for U to go for it I suppose.

And this thing with moving units to Romania via Yugo on G1. Interesting.

[Amon-Sul]

A perfect move for Japan. Without a single casualty.

[Amon-Sul]

And Trade with America in Rd3. That is rare to be seen.

[Amon-Sul]

Now i see why I decided to evac Egypt. I was planning to pull my navy to sz 92, and stack Egypt with plains. But the problem was, U could take Algeria with Italy, and then all of Ur German air could attack sz 92 and land in Algeria.

In other words, to save Egypt I would have to leave the Med with UK fleet.

[Amon-Sul]

@Amon-Sul said in Farmboy (X) vs Amon Sul (A+16):

Now i see why I decided to evac Egypt. I was planning to pull my navy to sz 92, and stack Egypt with plains. But the problem was, U could take Algeria with Italy, and then all of Ur German air could attack sz 92 and land in Algeria.

In other words, to save Egypt I would have to leave the Med with UK fleet.

and other thing was Sea Lion. If i moved the navy out of Med, but entire airforce to Egypt, it could jeopardise London too.

But key reason was the navy being still held in the Med. Was i wrong with that decision, time will tell.