L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3

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  • Amon-SulA

    wait 1 more fig

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  • Amon-SulA

    4/4

    usa simply cannot have a lucky battle xd

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  • Amon-SulA

    so i have 1 bom
    u have a sub and 2 figs

    i resign

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  • trulpenT

    Actually, I think both sb’s got shot down. The figs can’t hit subs.

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  • Amon-SulA

    no wait i have to take 2 bombers down since u dont have a des

    my sub stays and submerges , only not if u want to fight with urs but i somehow think u do not

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  • trulpenT

    Yeah, it will submerge as well.

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  • trulpenT

    @Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    i resign

    Are you sure?

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  • Amon-SulA

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 14

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 14

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 5 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 9 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Americans
        Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for British and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Dutch and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for French and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Germans from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Italians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Japanese from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Neutral_Axis from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        4 submarines moved from 30 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 63 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Queensland to 33 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Korea to 33 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
        1 marine and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Persia
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
        1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
        1 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia
        1 artillery moved from Iraq to Persia
        1 artillery moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
        2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Korea to Jehol
        1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        2 artilleries moved from France to Holland Belgium
        4 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
        1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Philippines
        Battle in Jehol
            Americans attack with 2 mech_infantrys
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Jehol, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Jehol
                Americans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Jehol, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Jehol
            Americans win, taking Philippines from Japanese, taking Jehol from Japanese with 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Northwest Persia
            Americans attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 2 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Northwest Persia
                Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Northwest Persia
            Americans win, taking Northwest Persia from Germans with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
        Battle in Persia
            Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 factory_minor
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Persia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Persia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Persia
            Americans win, taking Persia from Germans with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
        Battle in Suiyuyan
            Americans attack with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Suiyuyan
            Americans win, taking Suiyuyan from Japanese with 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Americans attack with 4 artilleries and 4 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 4 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 4 artilleries and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium
            3 infantry owned by the Americans and 4 artilleries owned by the Americans retreated to France
            Germans win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
        Battle in 33 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 2 bombers and 6 submarines
            Japanese defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 3 submarines
                Japanese roll dice for 3 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 6 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                3 submarines owned by the Americans, 1 carrier owned by the Japanese, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 2 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 33 Sea Zone
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 33 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 33 Sea Zone: 1 carrier
            EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Japanese owned units to: carrier = 1
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 3 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                2 submarines owned by the Americans, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 33 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                2 fighters owned by the Japanese and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in 33 Sea Zone
            1 submarine owned by the Americans Submerged
            1 submarine owned by the Japanese Submerged
            Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 34
            Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber and 5 submarines
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 submarines

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 33 Sea Zone: 1 bomber and 3 submarines
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 33 Sea Zone: 1 carrier and 1 cruiser
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 33 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Caroline Islands: 2 fighters
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans : 0.00
Americans : 1.67
Japanese : -0.17

    Savegame

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  • Amon-SulA

    so if i am not mistaken

    u ve lost AC, cruiser, 2 des, 2 subs = 56

    i ve lost 5 subs, 2 bombers, = 54

    we re near as it was on average

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  • trulpenT

    Looks about right.

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  • Amon-SulA

    @trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    @Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    i resign

    Are you sure?

    from the battle not from the game haha

    i mean i retreat if i can with my sub? can that be done ? or i have to submerge?

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  • Amon-SulA

    have to go now this move took too much time 2 hours

    come back later

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  • trulpenT

    You should be able to retreat.

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  • Amon-SulA

    are u sure?

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  • trulpenT

    Yes, you are the aggressor, so at the start of the next battle round you have the option to retreat.

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  • Amon-SulA

    if so i ll move to sz 23

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  • Amon-SulA

    @trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:

    Yes, you are the aggressor, so at the start of the next battle round you have the option to retreat.

    yeah i know but its sub and u dont have anything but sub. but if u say so. i will

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  • Amon-SulA

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 14

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 14

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 5 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 9 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Politics - Americans
        Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for British and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Dutch and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for French and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Germans from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Italians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Japanese from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Neutral_Axis from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        4 submarines moved from 30 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 63 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Queensland to 33 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Korea to 33 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
        1 marine and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Persia
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
        1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
        1 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia
        1 artillery moved from Iraq to Persia
        1 artillery moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
        2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
        2 mech_infantrys moved from Korea to Jehol
        1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        2 artilleries moved from France to Holland Belgium
        4 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
        1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Philippines
        Battle in Jehol
            Americans attack with 2 mech_infantrys
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Jehol, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Jehol
                Americans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Jehol, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Jehol
            Americans win, taking Philippines from Japanese, taking Jehol from Japanese with 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Northwest Persia
            Americans attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
            Germans defend with 2 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Northwest Persia
                Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Northwest Persia
            Americans win, taking Northwest Persia from Germans with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
        Battle in Persia
            Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 factory_minor
                Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Persia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Persia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Persia
            Americans win, taking Persia from Germans with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
        Battle in Suiyuyan
            Americans attack with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Suiyuyan
            Americans win, taking Suiyuyan from Japanese with 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
            Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            Americans attack with 4 artilleries and 4 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 4 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 4 artilleries and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium
            3 infantry owned by the Americans and 4 artilleries owned by the Americans retreated to France
            Germans win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
        Battle in 33 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 2 bombers and 6 submarines
            Japanese defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 3 submarines
                Japanese roll dice for 3 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 6 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                3 submarines owned by the Americans, 1 carrier owned by the Japanese, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 2 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 33 Sea Zone
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 33 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 33 Sea Zone: 1 carrier
            EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Japanese owned units to: carrier = 1
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 3 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                2 submarines owned by the Americans, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 33 Sea Zone
                Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                2 fighters owned by the Japanese and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in 33 Sea Zone
            1 submarine owned by the Americans Submerged
            1 submarine owned by the Japanese Submerged
            Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 34
            Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber and 5 submarines
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 submarines

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 33 Sea Zone: 1 bomber and 3 submarines
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 33 Sea Zone: 1 carrier and 1 cruiser
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 33 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Caroline Islands: 2 fighters
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans : 0.00
Americans : 1.67
Japanese : -0.17

    Savegame

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  • trulpenT

    Yes, one sub came from Hawaii, right?

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  • trulpenT

    I’m not sure, let me check the rules and try to discern which comes first, retreat or submerge.

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