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L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3
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so i have 1 bom
u have a sub and 2 figsi resign
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Actually, I think both sb’s got shot down. The figs can’t hit subs.
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no wait i have to take 2 bombers down since u dont have a des
my sub stays and submerges , only not if u want to fight with urs but i somehow think u do not
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Yeah, it will submerge as well.
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 14
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 14 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 5 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 9 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Americans Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for British and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Dutch and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for French and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Germans from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Italians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Japanese from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Neutral_Axis from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral Combat Move - Americans 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 4 submarines moved from 30 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 63 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Queensland to 33 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Korea to 33 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Persia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia 1 artillery moved from Iraq to Persia 1 artillery moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan 2 mech_infantrys moved from Korea to Jehol 1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 2 artilleries moved from France to Holland Belgium 4 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium Combat - Americans Battle in Philippines Battle in Jehol Americans attack with 2 mech_infantrys Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Jehol, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Jehol Americans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Jehol, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Jehol Americans win, taking Philippines from Japanese, taking Jehol from Japanese with 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Northwest Persia Americans attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry Germans defend with 2 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Northwest Persia Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Northwest Persia Americans win, taking Northwest Persia from Germans with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Battle in Persia Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 factory_minor Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Persia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Persia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Persia Americans win, taking Persia from Germans with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery Battle in Suiyuyan Americans attack with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Suiyuyan Americans win, taking Suiyuyan from Japanese with 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Holland Belgium Americans attack with 4 artilleries and 4 infantry Germans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 4 infantry Americans roll dice for 4 artilleries and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium 3 infantry owned by the Americans and 4 artilleries owned by the Americans retreated to France Germans win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Battle in 33 Sea Zone Americans attack with 2 bombers and 6 submarines Japanese defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 3 submarines Japanese roll dice for 3 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 6 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits 3 submarines owned by the Americans, 1 carrier owned by the Japanese, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 2 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 33 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 33 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 33 Sea Zone: 1 carrier EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Japanese owned units to: carrier = 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 3 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits 2 submarines owned by the Americans, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 33 Sea Zone Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 fighters owned by the Japanese and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in 33 Sea Zone 1 submarine owned by the Americans Submerged 1 submarine owned by the Japanese Submerged Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 34 Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber and 5 submarines Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 submarines Non Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 33 Sea Zone: 1 bomber and 3 submarines EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 33 Sea Zone: 1 carrier and 1 cruiser EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 33 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Caroline Islands: 2 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : 0.00 Americans : 1.67 Japanese : -0.17 -
so if i am not mistaken
u ve lost AC, cruiser, 2 des, 2 subs = 56
i ve lost 5 subs, 2 bombers, = 54
we re near as it was on average
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Looks about right.
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@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
@Amon-Sul said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
i resign
Are you sure?
from the battle not from the game haha
i mean i retreat if i can with my sub? can that be done ? or i have to submerge?
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have to go now this move took too much time 2 hours
come back later
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You should be able to retreat.
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are u sure?
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Yes, you are the aggressor, so at the start of the next battle round you have the option to retreat.
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if so i ll move to sz 23
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@trulpen said in L20 #1 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+7) BM3:
Yes, you are the aggressor, so at the start of the next battle round you have the option to retreat.
yeah i know but its sub and u dont have anything but sub. but if u say so. i will
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 14
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4
Game History
Round: 14 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 5 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 9 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Americans Americans takes Political Action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for British and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Dutch and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for French and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Germans from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Italians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Japanese from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral Americans succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Neutral_Axis from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral Combat Move - Americans 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 4 submarines moved from 30 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 63 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Queensland to 33 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Korea to 33 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Persia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia 1 artillery moved from Iraq to Persia 1 artillery moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan 2 mech_infantrys moved from Korea to Jehol 1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 2 artilleries moved from France to Holland Belgium 4 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium Combat - Americans Battle in Philippines Battle in Jehol Americans attack with 2 mech_infantrys Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys in Jehol, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Jehol Americans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Jehol, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Jehol Americans win, taking Philippines from Japanese, taking Jehol from Japanese with 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Northwest Persia Americans attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry Germans defend with 2 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 2 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Northwest Persia Americans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Northwest Persia Americans win, taking Northwest Persia from Germans with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Battle in Persia Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 factory_minor Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Persia, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Persia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Persia Americans win, taking Persia from Germans with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery Battle in Suiyuyan Americans attack with 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Americans lost in Suiyuyan Americans win, taking Suiyuyan from Japanese with 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Americans: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Holland Belgium Americans attack with 4 artilleries and 4 infantry Germans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 4 infantry Americans roll dice for 4 artilleries and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 4 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits 3 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium 3 infantry owned by the Americans and 4 artilleries owned by the Americans retreated to France Germans win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Battle in 33 Sea Zone Americans attack with 2 bombers and 6 submarines Japanese defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 3 submarines Japanese roll dice for 3 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Americans roll dice for 6 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits 3 submarines owned by the Americans, 1 carrier owned by the Japanese, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 2 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 33 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 33 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 33 Sea Zone: 1 carrier EDIT: Changing unit hit damage for these Japanese owned units to: carrier = 1 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 3 submarines in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 33 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.17 expected hits 2 submarines owned by the Americans, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 33 Sea Zone Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in 33 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 fighters owned by the Japanese and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in 33 Sea Zone 1 submarine owned by the Americans Submerged 1 submarine owned by the Japanese Submerged Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 34 Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber and 5 submarines Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 submarines Non Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 33 Sea Zone: 1 bomber and 3 submarines EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 33 Sea Zone: 1 carrier and 1 cruiser EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 33 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Caroline Islands: 2 fighters EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 23 Sea ZoneCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans : 0.00 Americans : 1.67 Japanese : -0.17 -
Yes, one sub came from Hawaii, right?
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I’m not sure, let me check the rules and try to discern which comes first, retreat or submerge.
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“STEP 6. PRESS ATTACK OR RETREAT”
So you make the choise of retreating at the end of the battle round, while choices of submerge is first thing in the next one, hence you are able to retreat.
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4 actually
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