Any war against the USA will get nowhere fast without the Money Islands. Therefore, attacking UK/ANZAC is an absolute must, so that you can rake in that badly needed +20 IPCs.
Can Russia take pro-Allies neutrals before DOW?
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Scenario: Germany has attacked strict neutrals, but its only round 2 and Russia is NOT at war with Germany/Italy.
So, can Russia take these now pro-Ally neutrals now? Or does it have to wait for round 4 or a German DOW?
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It must wait until it’s in the war and part of the Allies. Until then, they are just as neutral as those countries were before they were attacked.
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They could take Mongolia in your scenario but that would just be goofy because Mongolia would still be a strict neutral. They can’t move anything out of Russia anywhere on the Europe side until they are at war with the European Axis.
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Thank you, guys. That is what we thought but its our first time in this scenario and wanted to be sure.
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Usually its best to have a Russian guy in Caucasus or mobile at Volgo to take NWP in anticipation of war, if you forget to activate these territories, they cant be blitz’d/NCM’d through at all (you must stop to gain control).
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They could take Mongolia in your scenario but that would just be goofy because Mongolia would still be a strict neutral. They can’t move anything out of Russia anywhere on the Europe side until they are at war with the European Axis.
I don’t think this is right. They (almost) never become pro-Axis but they can become pro-Allies. So in the scenario outlined, USSR could activate the Mongolian territories it can reach by doing a DOW on Japan.
@Pac:
The Mongolian territories (Olgiy, Dzavhan, Tsagaan-Olom, Central Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar, and
Buyant-Uhaa) will never become pro-Axis unless one or more of them is attacked by the Soviet Union. Also, if Japan attacks
any Soviet-controlled territory that is adjacent to any Mongolian territory, all Mongolian territories that are still strict neutral
or pro-AlliesThere is nothing in there that says they aren’t included in going pro-Allies with an Axis neutral crush.
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They could take Mongolia in your scenario but that would just be goofy because Mongolia would still be a strict neutral. They can’t move anything out of Russia anywhere on the Europe side until they are at war with the European Axis.
I don’t think this is right. They (almost) never become pro-Axis but they can become pro-Allies. So in the scenario outlined, USSR could activate the Mongolian territories it can reach by doing a DOW on Japan.
@Pac:
The Mongolian territories (Olgiy, Dzavhan, Tsagaan-Olom, Central Mongolia, Ulaanbaatar, and
Buyant-Uhaa) will never become pro-Axis unless one or more of them is attacked by the Soviet Union. Also, if Japan attacks
any Soviet-controlled territory that is adjacent to any Mongolian territory, all Mongolian territories that are still strict neutral
or pro-AlliesThere is nothing in there that says they aren’t included in going pro-Allies with an Axis neutral crush.
You’re right Simon. For some reason I thought that they were separate from the other strict neutrals.
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Actually Mongolia can go pro Axis. The only situation I can see it goes like this, some allied nation attacks a strict neutral triggering all strict neutrals to go pro-Axis. USSR breaks Mongolian Defense Pact and attacks Japanese territory. Under G40 rules, if USSR breaks the pact, Mongolia becomes a strict neutral thus in this situation, Mongolia is now Pro-Axis.
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@Caesar:
Actually Mongolia can go pro Axis. The only situation I can see it goes like this, some allied nation attacks a strict neutral triggering all strict neutrals to go pro-Axis. USSR breaks Mongolian Defense Pact and attacks Japanese territory. Under G40 rules, if USSR breaks the pact, Mongolia becomes a strict neutral thus in this situation, Mongolia is now Pro-Axis.
The rule above states that they will never become pro-Axis unless attacked by USSR. Breaking the pact doesn’t change that.
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I believe then the rules directly say two different things because I am pretty sure USSR attacking Japan triggers Mongolia to go outright neutral.
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I think you should re read the rules. They’re clear.
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