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Get rid of the cardboard
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National Production marker for this game only goes to 48?
Seriously?
WTF?
Not to complain or anything but is this serious….? If they short us on the paper money I’m fine with that if the National Production goes to 70 or so, so we can follow it easily. Did I just mis-view that picture because that’s what it looks like. Is there two?
I love this game and will find a way either way, just looking for a clarification, not a fight. :evil:
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Razor think that the National Production chart is printed on both sides, so when you reach 48 points just turn the chart around, and it continue on the other side, man.
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That will not work: USA or Japan can reach 49 and more, but at the same time, ANZAC, UK and China will struggle to reach 20s
The answer is using two markers, so if you have 55, put one at 48 and another at 7
Cheap, but you could call this new game: “Axis and Allies: Global Crisis” (AAGC) just for changing the numeric abreviatures :lol:
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And chances are most of the time Japan/US won’t be making 70 from territory income alone which is what the production counters are for. A bunch of that income will be coming from achieving NO’s (I don’t keep track of NO income with National production chart but maybe some people do).
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However, speculating that there is a conspiracy to get consumers to buy more than one copy of the game is a ridiculous accusation.
Plastic cost from less to nothing, so its not a money issue. It is making the mold that cost money. And they should not be afraid of putting too many units in the bag, because if I got too many units I just trash the ones I dont need. Butt if I am short of units, I’ll need to buy another copy of the game. That is the difference.
As for the conspiracy part, the company’s history will show. Every product they release got plenty of common units, and are short of the rare units. AA50 Anniversary only come with 2 Italian cruisers. Guadal was short on cruisers. BotB was short on trucks and ge fighters. D-day was short on blockhouses.
They use the same way of bussiness in the Minis. Lets say you want a Tiger tank. Then you will have to buy a Booster Pack with 8 common units, and one rare unit that may be a Tiger, or maybe not, so you need to buy lots of Booster packs before you get lucky. And the same s*it goes with their other product, Magic the Gathering, you must always buy the new cards because your old ones get obsolete after some weeks. Its not a conspiracy, its thei bussiness philosophy.
If they sold extra pieces that would alleviate a lot of problems, but the only way to get more pieces is to buy another game.
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I’ll concede this point as well. But you can always borrow from your other copies of the game, including AA42.
@Craig:
I agree with the facility units, the IC, ports and airfields, they fit on cardboard. But the AA-gun that move with the army, that should be plastic. It feels silly to move a cardboard AA-gun together with plastic tanks and artillery.
This is the only real part issue that should have been done differently. The AA unit that moves with the land units should be a plastic part.
Even better, they should have been color/nation specific and subject to destruction during combat, but that is another discussion. :-D -
Leaving out the money is kind of a pain… but honestly guys… if you are buying AAP40 we all know you have STACKS of IPC cash lying around the house in your other AAA games.
This game is not for the light weight AAA player.
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We use our own chart to track stuff. It has all powers on 1 sheet by round with the starting IPC’s. I’m sure many of us use something similar. We track IPC’s earned from tt, NO’s, $ saved from last turn, and war bonds if you have them (reminder). It also tracks how many researches (dice) and the techs you have. It makes life much easier. That way there is no questions about did I get paid for this or that, or the markers on the production board shifted. You can also track progress gained or lost. It also helps if you have to finish your game on another day.
Even with the chart, most of us still like the IPC’s to buy units though. I guess its because that’s what we’re used to. -
im going to canibalize my old copies of revised, and europe for Industrial Complexes, AA Guns and IPCs.
thats going to happen the day I get the game.Thumbs down on the cardbord factories.
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I shouldn’t have to cannabilize my old games for some paper money and plastic pieces which might have only added a slight cost to the game. WOTC are a bunch of cheap bass-turds. The games are great but it wouldn’t take much to improve the quality.
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I have been using poker chips the past few years.
I still have IPC’s wrapped in plastic
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Not supplying money is like selling Yahtzee without scorepads
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@Brain:
Not supplying money is like selling Yahtzee without scorepads
Or dice for that matter… :lol:
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Yeah I can make my own Yahtzee for a fraction of the price. And after FMG makes game pieces I will be able to make my own A&A games.
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At least for me, I have no problem with the lack of IPC’s. I have too many of them already from my other A&A games.
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I have plenty of monopoly money I could use too, but I would rather keep my game pieces with their respective games so that I keep my games complete.
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I can understand that.
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Some of the old IPC notes are a little….dated, really a shame that paper money went by the wayside
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And it is also a shame that AA Gun and factory pieces went by the wayside as well.
(Rank = 81)
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Leaving out the money is kind of a pain… but honestly guys… if you are buying AAP40 we all know you have STACKS of IPC cash lying around the house in your other AAA games.
This game is not for the light weight AAA player.
me and my friends use an electronic banking system from monopoly.
just add a zero to the end of all the amounts.
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