AARHE 1939 map and rule files

Oh, you continued working on it.
The more you work on this file the more you don’t want to go back.  :wink:
Please. Hold on.

We should have the base file sorted out first.
That file is not suitable.
It has no layers.
And Europe is too small.

Europe needs to be big enough at 70x33", not 96x48". Right?
96x48" is huge even compared to The War Game.

ok so we are going for realistic map
in that case we better keep supporting the current “roomy” versions then

I have a new candidate base file
*bigger Europe, no Africa/Middle East distorting
*preserved layers from the original map (so you can toggle modern world borders and have your shoreline art)
*also slightly enlarged UK and Japan

largest measure of Western Europe to Ukraine

your edit is 13.46" (34.2cm) @ 96"x48"
ie. 24.9cm @ 70"

this edit is 27.3cm @ 1782cmx840cm (70"x33")
ie. 37.4cm @ 96"

if its good then I add back in the better Islands, AARHE icons, layers, and stuff
and we have a base file done
then you go do the 1939 map and I go do the standard map

http://www.mediafire.com/?4jclealmz1m

here is the set up file to work from for 1939 AARHE

http://www.mediafire.com/?fmxndxjvt0u

http://www.mediafire.com/upload_complete.php?id=z4aismgjqyt

also here is the set up file.

http://www.mediafire.com/?bmzlyvw37yz

http://www.mediafire.com/upload_complete.php?id=iym5wbmjzx9

Er, thats your edit of my “real map” and the empty 1939 table.

I was asking for latest 1939 map for me to do the 1939 setup file.

I haven’t disjoint North America and South America yet because I thought then we would need to specific that they are connected

what do you think?

another thing is that I was thinking for the 1939 map we should remove the unrealistic connection between America and Panama from OOB

stretching Europe (without the banned ugly Africa/Middle East distortion) means it is done to Euro-Asia-Africa as a whole

we can get a little more space but it won’t be signficant, we definitely won’t reach 30cm

(since I had to distort Africa to get to that 30cm version,
though I haven’t as agressive shrunk Soviet Far East and Alaska in that attempt,
shall see what happens)

ok I did that thing
its now 28.6cm weu to ukr, 30cm nor to seu

*added pretty traces of Pacific islands
*setup the layers
*added AARHE symbols library

to colour-in / create a territory
1. go to “Map: nation” layer
2. merge together the a few nations to create a territory
3. colour it is and give it a stroke

all the “Map” layers are of course related so try to not change them besides colour and stroke

if nothing else then our base file / template is ready

http://www.mediafire.com/?c1fxj3yvy3x

oh yeah I forgot a sea zone layer
it important that its below the nations layer
so the dotted always slip under the shoreline

after you printed the beautiful 1939 map
do you still want to remake the 1939 map?  :-D

ah I see you’ve implemented the colour change back to OOB Russia

I wrote the setup table in the rules file based on the map 2007-12-19 you pointed me to
there are maybe some consistencies such as Trans-Jordan didn’t have artillery on that map

if you want to update to the latest terrain settings
add mountainous to Morroco, Italian East Africa, Japan, Mexico, Western Canada
add snowy to Greenland, Buryatia, Yakut
add “small” to Midway, Wake, Marshall, Marianas (this quite important as there were no large islands in Central Pacific and probably why Allies historically had to go via South Pacific)

the unit icons are not easy to read
maybe could make battleships larger to be distinct
say submarine 1, destroyer 1.5, battleship 2 units long
SZ14 Italian Cruiser has a different colour than the rest of the Italian navy

In illustrator how do move items between layers besides cut and paste? or is there a way to cut and paste without the item being shifted in x y coordinates

@Imperious:

To get a different layer you click object with right button and click select. Then pick the choice you want.

no I was referring to move an object A from layer B to layer C without changing object A’s x-y co-ordinates

what you were referring to is not layers but just overlapping objects

if there isn’t a way then it’ll be more work but should still have setup icons as a separate layer
then you’ve got one file rather two to maintain/upload/etc

BTW the map does not have wake. That island is not important. Also, added Azores to small category. If you find other errors just copy the text to where you want it and finish and ill post on page one.

it certainly didn’t do much historical
why did the Japanese attack it? maybe it could have a use

yeah Azores marked as “small” is right
and it would be great if Midway was in sz69 rather than sz56

have yet another idea on how to have your beloved  :wink: 3 SZ Bering Strait without being awarkard
mark icy bits of Soviet Far East and Alasaka as Artic Circle (Impassable)
sz63 is adjacent to these two impassables but not SFE or Alasaka

whlie you are making Artic Cirlce, probably good time to remove OOB’s sz64 connection to Western Canada

further on terrain

on standard map
*Caroline Islands is not “small” terrain (being Caroline, Marianas and Pacific Islands)
*Finland and Archangel is not Snowy (after considering climate map and monthly temperatures)

but of course 1939 map doesn’t have to use the same benchmark

(though Archangel can be either as the city is right up north)

oh, you agree with all the proposals?

*Midway
*Bering Strait
*Caroline Islands
*Finland/Archangel

I think I found out how to bump objects into another layer in illustrator
http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1154471&page=1
shall try it out later