2024 Playoff OOB Round 1 Pacifiers Board (+42) v Gamerman01


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 127 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Novgorod
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
            3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Baltic States
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Belarus
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Novgorod
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 3 artilleries and 1 infantry
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                    Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 3 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Belarus
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
                Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 114 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 cruiser
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 114 Sea Zone
                1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans retreated
                Russians win with 1 cruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland
            2 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            3 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
            3 aaGuns moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            4 artilleries moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            17 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania
            3 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            5 armour and 10 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 112 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Western Germany
            1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 47 PUs; end with 47 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : -0.33
    Russians regular : 1.83
    Germans regular : -1.00
    

    Savegame


  • More tough sledding, but still no disasters

    Mental lapse to not take empty Ukraine - I’d like to take it with a mech if you allow, but I won’t hold it against you if you don’t.
    Just take one from Bess if you allow


  • @gamerman01
    go for it


  • That’s cool, I was a little torn, you might just capture it without loss and then I turn around and get hit so it could backfire, but thanks, I’ll take it


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Research Technology - Germans
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 fighter, 3 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 127 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Novgorod
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
            3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Baltic States
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Belarus
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Novgorod
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 3 artilleries and 1 infantry
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                    Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 3 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Western Ukraine
                Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Belarus
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Belarus, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
                Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States
                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 114 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 cruiser
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 114 Sea Zone
                1 fighter owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans retreated
                Russians win with 1 cruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland
            2 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            3 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
            3 aaGuns moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            4 artilleries moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            17 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania
            3 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            5 armour and 10 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 112 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Western Germany
            1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 47 PUs; end with 47 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Bessarabia: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Ukraine: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Ukraine from Russians to Germans
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Germans from 57 to 59
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    French regular : -0.33
    Russians regular : 1.83
    Germans regular : -1.00
    

    Savegame


  • Lots of juicy targets for your 4 aircraft, let’s see how much you can destroy


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

    Game History

    Round: 3
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 11 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Novgorod
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Western Ukraine
            6 artilleries and 18 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Smolensk to Belarus
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Belarus
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Novgorod
                Russians attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Russians and 1 fighter owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 tactical_bomber in Novgorod, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Novgorod, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod
                Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 1 armour and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
                Casualties for Russians: 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Belarus
                Russians attack with 3 armour, 6 artilleries, 18 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 3 armour, 6 artilleries, 18 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Belarus, round 2 : 6/30 hits, 8,00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus
                Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 3 armour, 6 artilleries, 18 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery in Western Ukraine, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Smolensk
            1 aaGun moved from Smolensk to Belarus
            3 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
                  Russians take Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Smolensk
            3 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
            3 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
            1 armour moved from Rostov to Northwest Persia
    
        Place Units - Russians
            1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
            10 infantry placed in Russia
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 1,00
    Russians regular : -0,83
    

    Savegame


  • That was generous to give the late edit, especially with those dice
    I can be trusted, I did intend to take Ukraine before seeing any dice…
    I can stop talking about it now, I know you’re fine but I feel a little concerned given the circumstances


  • @gamerman01

    it is totally fine really, and it would not have changed Novgorod! So the only thing I regret (with kind of future information) is not to have sticked with 2inf (+1Ftr) to ukraine instead of inf+art - but I wanted to make sure


  • Well of course that was very sporting of you and I know I don’t have to worry about it, I’ll just appreciate the gesture and of course I’m pretty generous too


  • @gamerman01

    btw a while ago I had intended to suggest unchecking Map Option “Convoy Blockades Roll Dice for Cost” for playoff games in order to support ncm-edits.

    But I forgot when playoff started; if you like however we can do so from now on. It has little effect on the game itself imo and matches lenient edit policy by avoiding doubtful late non-combat movement


  • OK, so I think you’re saying that because TripleA rolls dice for convoy damage, that then a non-com edit after that is technically after dice have been rolled,

    And that you like having the old rule of automatic convoy damage, 1 IPC per ships, 2 for each plane on a carrier, and 2 for each sub, right?

    I would have agreed to eliminating convoy blockade dice before the game, so I would also agree to that from now on in our game, as you proposed

    But I’m confused because the engine will keep rolling dice and then we’d have to edit every time.
    I must not be understanding - what am I missing?


  • @gamerman01

    yeah, you got me (except that I think it is 1 IPC per plane on a carrier) - and as far as I know TripleA wont continue rolling dice when we uncheck before loading the game next time. In case engine does continue rolling I am favoring to leave it as is but we can just try (if dice are rolled, we will keep them, and if no dice are rolled, but the fixed convoy blockades apply, we will be fine)

    Or didn’t you know that at least if you start a game with the Option unchecked the automatic convoy blockades do apply (and not none)?


  • It works, I did it in local, so we can do no dice from now on. I don’t like dice with them anyway, I liked it better before.

    Carriers do no damage, but planes do 2 a piece
    When rolling dice, planes roll 2 dice like subs, and carriers don’t roll

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