TGC (Germany) vs. Karl7 (Allies) Original Europe


  • I’m the one saying otherwise and if my own games are going to be used against my position, why am I playing Germany?


  • @The_Good_Captain

    so I lost 1 won 1 as Germany. You have won 2 as Germany

    I can take germany again

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    @Karl7

    your strategy seems pretty optimal. Give up W. Europe and storm Russia.

    Which if I recall was the sort of “break the game” straegy. My first game I was seeing if there was some possibility of German equalibrium potential on money. But alas, no.

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    @Karl7

    I will place sub off canada and us and buy artillery to place in poland


  • @Karl7 said in TGC (Germany) vs. Karl7 (Allies) Original Europe:

    @The_Good_Captain

    so I lost 1 won 1 as Germany. You have won 2 as Germany

    I can take germany again

    That’s…a way of looking at.

    I see it as both times I played as the Allies, the worst game was a coin flip. I would use those as exhibit A and B in “the game is balanced”.

    But I’ll just put a pause on this here and send you a PM before this goes too far down the rabbit hole.


  • @The_Good_Captain

    Sure, no ego here. I think this is fun. Let me take Germany and let’s see if I can’t replicate your success

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    TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from Denmark Strait Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from Halifax Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone
                  Germans take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from British
            1 submarine moved from British Convoy 4 Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from Halifax Sea Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone
                  Germans take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from British
            1 submarine moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to North Sea Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from France to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Germany to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            2 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
            1 artillery moved from Poland to East Poland
            1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to East Poland
            1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to Bessarabia
            1 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
            1 fighter moved from Poland to East Poland
            2 armour moved from Poland to Bessarabia
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Davis Strait Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 3 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 4 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports
                    Germans roll dice for 4 submarines in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 transports in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 2 transports owned by the British lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 2 transports
            Battle in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in English Channel Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in English Channel Sea Zone
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in English Channel Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in North Sea Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 submarines and 1 transport
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 transport in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the Germans lost in North Sea Sea Zone
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 transport owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    1 battleship owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 36
                Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Bessarabia
                Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 artillery and 6 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 2/11 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia
                Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 4 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry
            Battle in Gibraltar
            Battle in East Poland
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 4 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland
                Germans win, taking Gibraltar from British, taking East Poland from Russians with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Rumania
            2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Greece to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Czechoslovakia to Poland
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Austria to Hungary
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            2 armour moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Poland
            2 armour moved from Germany to Poland
            3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
            4 infantry moved from Eastern France to Germany
            2 armour moved from France to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Denmark to Germany
            2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            1 bomber moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            2 armour moved from Northern Italy to Hungary
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 fighter moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
            2 fighters moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
            2 fighters moved from East Poland to Poland
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 artillery and 12 infantry placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Russians regular : 1.33
    Germans regular : 0.83
    British regular : 0.17
    

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