b921aa6e-aae3-4654-993b-885e40bdffe6-image.png @VictoryFirst
For reference, here is where we are in the current combat: (First round of combat was 1 hit a side. I tipped the BB for Germany since it was obvious).
TGC (Germany) vs. Karl7 (Allies) Original Europe
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small NCM edit. use this file plz: G5 ncm edit.tsvg
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TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 5
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Azores Sea Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Algeria: 1 armour EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Northern Italy: 1 armour EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Non Combat Move - Americans 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Netherlands-Belgium 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 transport moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 armour moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 armour, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United States to English Channel Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Russia to Moscow Place Units - Americans 2 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 10 armour, 8 artilleries and 45 infantry moved from Belorussia to Moscow 8 armour moved from East Poland to Moscow 4 armour moved from East Poland to Moscow 1 bomber moved from Germany to Moscow 1 armour moved from East Poland to Moscow 1 armour moved from East Poland to Moscow 2 infantry moved from Germany to Austria Combat - Germans Battle in Moscow Germans attack with 24 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 45 infantry British defend with 3 fighters; Americans defend with 1 fighter; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 4 armour, 6 artilleries, 1 factory, 1 fighter and 52 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Moscow : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 24 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 45 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 23/78 hits, 24.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 4 armour, 6 artilleries, 5 fighters and 52 infantry in Moscow, round 2 : 28/67 hits, 24.00 expected hits 28 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 23 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 24 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 17 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 21/50 hits, 19.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 4 armour, 6 artilleries, 5 fighters and 29 infantry in Moscow, round 3 : 16/44 hits, 16.33 expected hits 16 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 21 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 24 armour, 8 artilleries, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 16/34 hits, 15.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 4 armour, 6 artilleries, 5 fighters and 8 infantry in Moscow, round 4 : 10/23 hits, 9.33 expected hits 8 artilleries owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 8 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 armour owned by the Russians and 6 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 23 armour and 1 bomber in Moscow, round 5 : 16/24 hits, 12.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 armour and 5 fighters in Moscow, round 5 : 4/7 hits, 4.00 expected hits 4 armour owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 1 fighter owned by the Russians, 2 armour owned by the Russians, 1 fighter owned by the Americans and 3 fighters owned by the British lost in Moscow Germans captures 22PUs while taking Russians capital Germans win, taking Moscow from Russians with 19 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 68 Casualties for Germans: 5 armour, 8 artilleries and 45 infantry Casualties for Russians: 4 armour, 6 artilleries, 1 fighter and 52 infantry Casualties for British: 3 fighters Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter Non Combat Move - Germans Trigger GermanVictoryConditionsMet: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachmentGermanVictorySwitch attached to Germans 2 armour moved from East Poland to Germany 1 bomber moved from Moscow to Belorussia 1 bomber moved from Belorussia to East Poland Place Units - Germans 8 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 24 PUs; end with 46 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 4.33 Germans regular : 4.50 Russians AA : -0.17 -
well done, another proof that Germany can win every time
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? Then what happened in the first two games?
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I’m the one saying otherwise and if my own games are going to be used against my position, why am I playing Germany?
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your strategy seems pretty optimal. Give up W. Europe and storm Russia.
Which if I recall was the sort of “break the game” straegy. My first game I was seeing if there was some possibility of German equalibrium potential on money. But alas, no.
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I will place sub off canada and us and buy artillery to place in poland
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@Karl7 said in TGC (Germany) vs. Karl7 (Allies) Original Europe:
so I lost 1 won 1 as Germany. You have won 2 as Germany
I can take germany again
That’s…a way of looking at.
I see it as both times I played as the Allies, the worst game was a coin flip. I would use those as exhibit A and B in “the game is balanced”.
But I’ll just put a pause on this here and send you a PM before this goes too far down the rabbit hole.
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Sure, no ego here. I think this is fun. Let me take Germany and let’s see if I can’t replicate your success
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from Denmark Strait Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Halifax Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 4 Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Halifax Sea Sea Zone to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Mid-Atlantic Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone Germans take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from British 1 submarine moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Azores Sea Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from Bay of Biscay Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from France to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone 1 transport moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to North Sea Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Germany to English Channel Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Germany to North Sea Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Gibraltar 2 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 artillery moved from Poland to East Poland 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to East Poland 1 armour and 3 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hungary to Bessarabia 1 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 fighter moved from Poland to East Poland 2 armour moved from Poland to Bessarabia Combat - Germans Battle in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans attack with 3 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the British lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Davis Strait Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Davis Strait Sea Zone Germans win with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter and 4 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 2 transports Germans roll dice for 4 submarines in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 transports in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits 2 submarines owned by the Germans lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British and 2 transports owned by the British lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 1 fighter and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 2 transports Battle in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in English Channel Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in English Channel Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in English Channel Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in English Channel Sea Zone Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in North Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 submarines and 1 transport British defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 transport in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in North Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in North Sea Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 transport owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone Germans roll dice for 3 submarines in North Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 battleship owned by the British lost in North Sea Sea Zone Germans win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 36 Casualties for Germans: 1 transport Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Bessarabia Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 artillery and 6 infantry Russians defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 4 armour, 1 artillery and 6 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 2/11 hits, 3.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 infantry in Bessarabia, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bessarabia 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Bessarabia Germans win, taking Bessarabia from Russians with 4 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 1 infantry Battle in Gibraltar Battle in East Poland Germans attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry Russians defend with 4 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 4 infantry in East Poland, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in East Poland, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in East Poland 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in East Poland Germans win, taking Gibraltar from British, taking East Poland from Russians with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 4 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Rumania 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Hungary 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Czechoslovakia to Poland 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Austria to Hungary 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 armour moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Poland 2 armour moved from Germany to Poland 3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany 4 infantry moved from Eastern France to Germany 2 armour moved from France to Germany 1 infantry moved from Denmark to Germany 2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 bomber moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Germany 1 fighter moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 2 armour moved from Northern Italy to Hungary 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria 1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria 1 fighter moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 2 fighters moved from North Sea Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium 2 fighters moved from East Poland to Poland Place Units - Germans 1 artillery and 12 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 1.33 Germans regular : 0.83 British regular : 0.17
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