Ragnell804 (Germany) vs TGC (Allies) Game 14


  • @Ragnell804

    Game History

    Round: 4
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Karelia
            2 infantry moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            5 armour moved from Belorussia to Karelia
            1 submarine moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
                  Russians take Soviet Convoy Sea Zone from Germans
            1 submarine moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to Barents Sea Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Karelia
                Russians attack with 5 armour and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 5 armour and 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Karelia
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia
                Russians win, taking Karelia from Germans with 5 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    Russians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 fighter owned by the Russians retreated
                Germans win with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -21
                Casualties for Russians: 1 bomber and 2 infantry
            Battle in Barents Sea Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in Barents Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Barents Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Russians submerged
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Moscow
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Karelia
            1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 30 infantry moved from Belorussia to Moscow
            6 infantry moved from Leningrad to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Belorussia
    
        Place Units - Russians
            8 infantry placed in Moscow
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : 2.00
    Russians regular : -1.83
    

  • @Ragnell804

    Game History

    Round: 4
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 3 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium
                  British take Netherlands-Belgium from Germans
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                British attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                    British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    British roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                British win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber
                Germans defend with 1 transport
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 transport in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 transport in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone
                British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Cyprus
            2 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Karelia
            1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from France to Netherlands-Belgium
            1 aaGun, 1 armour, 4 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 armour, 4 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
    
        Place Units - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Caucasus: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Turkestan: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.33
    British regular : -0.67
    

  • @Ragnell804

    Game History

    Round: 4
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                  Americans take Tunisia from Germans
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Morocco to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone to Northern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Karelia
            2 destroyers moved from British Convoy 3 Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom
    
        Combat - Americans
            Strategic bombing raid in Northern Italy
                Bombing raid in Northern Italy rolls: 5 and costs: 5 PUs.
                Bombing raid costs 5 PUs
            Battle in Northern Italy
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to France
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in United States
            3 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 47 PUs; end with 50 PUs
    

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  • @The_Good_Captain

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  • 1d6<=2: 4; Hits: 0


  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Iran
                  Germans take Iran from Middle_East
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
                  Germans take Trans-Jordan from Middle_East
            1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to France
            1 armour moved from Germany to Northern Italy
            3 fighters moved from Germany to Northern Italy
            1 armour moved from Germany to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
                  Germans take Leningrad from Russians
            1 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
            4 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            2 fighters moved from Bessarabia to Belorussia
            1 submarine moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
                  Germans take Soviet Convoy Sea Zone from Russians
            1 submarine moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to Barents Sea Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in Northern Italy
                Germans attack with 2 armour and 3 fighters
                Americans defend with 1 factory and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour and 3 fighters in Northern Italy, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Northern Italy
                Germans win, taking Northern Italy from Americans with 2 armour and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship and 1 destroyer
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 transport in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the Americans lost in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in France
                Germans attack with 1 bomber
                Americans defend with 1 bomber
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in France, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber in France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in France
                Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber
            Battle in Barents Sea Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 submarine
                Russians defend with 1 submarine
                1 submarine owned by the Germans submerged
            Battle in Belorussia
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 5 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 5 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                Germans winRussians winRussians win with 1 submarine remaining with 1 submarine remaining, taking Belorussia from Russians with 2 fighters and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland
            1 aaGun, 18 armour, 6 artilleries and 33 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            2 fighters moved from Belorussia to East Poland
            4 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
            3 fighters moved from Northern Italy to Germany
            1 bomber moved from France to Germany
    
        Place Units - Germans
            12 infantry placed in Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Leningrad: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Belorussia: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Leningrad from Germans to Russians
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -0.50
    Russians regular : -0.33
    Germans regular : -0.17
    British regular : -0.17
    

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  • @Ragnell804

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 2 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Russians
            6 infantry moved from Russia to Moscow
            5 armour moved from Karelia to Moscow
            1 submarine moved from Barents Sea Sea Zone to Soviet Convoy Sea Zone
                  Russians take Soviet Convoy Sea Zone from Germans
            1 submarine moved from Soviet Convoy Sea Zone to Barents Sea Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Russians
            Battle in Barents Sea Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in Barents Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Barents Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Russians submerged
    
        Non Combat Move - Russians
    
        Place Units - Russians
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Moscow
    
        Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans regular : -0.33
    Russians regular : -0.33
    

  • @Ragnell804

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - British
            British buy 4 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - British
            1 armour moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Eastern France
                  British take Eastern France from Germans
            1 armour moved from Eastern France to Germany
            5 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
            4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
            4 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Germany
            2 fighters moved from Karelia to Germany
            1 bomber moved from Cyprus to Germany
    
        Combat - British
            Battle in Germany
                British attack with 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 12 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 bomber, 1 factory, 4 fighters and 21 infantry
                    Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the British lost in Germany
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 12 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 7/24 hits, 8.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 21 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 11/26 hits, 9.83 expected hits
                    11 infantry owned by the British lost in Germany
                    1 bomber owned by the Germans and 6 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 7/13 hits, 5.00 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 4 fighters and 15 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 5/19 hits, 7.67 expected hits
                    4 artilleries owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Germany
                    7 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Germany, round 4 : 1/8 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 4 fighters and 8 infantry in Germany, round 4 : 3/12 hits, 5.33 expected hits
                    3 artilleries owned by the British lost in Germany
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Germany, round 5 : 3/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 4 fighters and 7 infantry in Germany, round 5 : 5/11 hits, 5.00 expected hits
                    1 bomber owned by the British, 2 artilleries owned by the British, 1 fighter owned by the British and 1 armour owned by the British lost in Germany
                    3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                Germans win with 4 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -50
                Casualties for British: 1 armour, 9 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 12 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 1 bomber and 17 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 armour moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Turkestan to Moscow
    
        Place Units - British
            4 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom
    
        Turn Complete - British
            British collect 32 PUs; end with 34 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans AA : 0.50
    Germans regular : -3.83
    British regular : -0.83
    

  • @Ragnell804

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 artilleries, 2 fighters and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 3 destroyers, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Germany
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Karelia to Germany
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Germany
                Americans attack with 5 artilleries, 1 fighter and 7 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory, 4 fighters and 4 infantry
                    Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Germany
                    Americans roll dice for 3 destroyers in Germany, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 5 artilleries and 7 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 3/12 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 4 fighters and 4 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 4.00 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Germany
                    4 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    Americans roll dice for 5 artilleries and 5 infantry in Germany, round 3 : 3/10 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 4 fighters in Germany, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Germany
                    3 fighters owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    Americans roll dice for 5 artilleries and 2 infantry in Germany, round 4 : 2/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter in Germany, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Germany
                    1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                Americans captures 42PUs while taking Germans capital
                Americans win, taking Germany from Germans with 5 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 4 fighters and 4 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            Trigger AlliedVictoryConditionsMet: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachmentAlliedVictorySwitch attached to Americans
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
            1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 transports moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            3 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            3 artilleries, 2 fighters and 3 infantry placed in United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 49 PUs; end with 91 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -1.33
    Germans AA : 0.83
    Germans regular : -1.33
    

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  • @The_Good_Captain

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from Germany to France
            1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Germany to Northern Italy
            4 fighters moved from Germany to Northern Italy
            5 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            18 armour, 6 artilleries and 38 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
                  Germans take Trans-Jordan from Middle_East
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Iran
                  Germans take Iran from Middle_East
    
        Combat - Germans
            Germans creates battle in territory Barents Sea Sea Zone
            Battle in Northern Italy
                Germans attack with 1 armour and 4 fighters
                Americans defend with 1 factory and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 4 fighters in Northern Italy, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Northern Italy
                Germans win, taking Northern Italy from Americans with 1 armour and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in France
                Germans attack with 1 bomber
                Americans defend with 1 bomber
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in France, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber in France, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 bomber owned by the Germans lost in France
                    1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in France
                British win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 bomber
                Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber
            Battle in Barents Sea Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 submarine
                Russians defend with 1 submarine
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Barents Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in Barents Sea Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine
            Battle in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship and 1 destroyer
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 transport in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 transport owned by the Americans lost in Tyrrhenian Sea Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in Karelia
                Germans attack with 5 infantry
                British defend with 2 fighters; Americans defend with 1 fighter; Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 5 armour
                    Germans roll dice for 5 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 5 armour and 3 fighters in Karelia, round 2 : 5/8 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                    5 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia
                    2 armour owned by the Russians lost in Karelia
                Russians win with 3 armour and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -5
                Casualties for Germans: 5 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 armour
            Battle in Belorussia
                Germans attack with 18 armour, 6 artilleries and 39 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 18 armour, 6 artilleries and 39 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 13/63 hits, 18.50 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia
                Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 18 armour, 6 artilleries and 38 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Soviet Convoy Sea Zone from Russians to Germans
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            5 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
            3 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland
            2 fighters moved from Bessarabia to Germany
            4 fighters moved from Northern Italy to Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
    
        Place Units - Germans
            12 infantry placed in Germany
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -0.50
    Russians regular : 2.00
    Germans regular : -1.00
    British regular : 0.83
    

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  • @Ragnell804

    Game History

    Round: 5
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 4 artilleries, 6 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Danish Sea Sea Zone to Germany
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
            3 destroyers moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Karelia to Germany
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in Germany
                Americans attack with 5 artilleries, 1 fighter and 7 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory, 6 fighters and 3 infantry
                    Germans roll AA dice in Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 3 destroyers in Germany, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 5 artilleries, 1 fighter and 7 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 4/13 hits, 4.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 6 fighters and 3 infantry in Germany, round 2 : 7/9 hits, 5.00 expected hits
                    7 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Germany
                    1 fighter owned by the Germans and 3 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                    Americans roll dice for 5 artilleries and 1 fighter in Germany, round 3 : 0/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 5 fighters in Germany, round 3 : 5/5 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                    5 artilleries owned by the Americans lost in Germany
                    Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in Germany, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 5 fighters in Germany, round 4 : 5/5 hits, 3.33 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in Germany
                    1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Germany
                Germans win with 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -20
                Casualties for Americans: 5 artilleries, 1 fighter and 7 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 fighters and 3 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
    
        Place Units - Americans
            4 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in United States
            2 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans regular : -2.83
    Germans AA : -0.17
    Germans regular : 5.33
    

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  • @DoManMacgee @kwaspek104 @VictoryFirst @Ragnell804 I’m very hesitant to recommend more than removing a bay of Biscay submarine and the German 12 IPC from the pregame buy.

    I don’t see easy wins for Germany with the bay of biscay sub removal and dropping the 12 IPC. They seem to come down to dice or are otherwise extremely close. I know VF is messing around with removing an infantry from Romania …that seems like the next best adjustment but I am not yet convinced it’s necessary.

    Anyway, just thought I’d drop a note at where we/I’m at. I’m going to start cutting videos this weekend but the balance video wont drop until probably february so should have it worked out by then.

    You guys rock.


  • @The_Good_Captain

    I don’t think just the bay of biscay and 12 IPCs are enough for balance. I can understand the romania removal might be a bit too much but I feel like when the game has even dice the German odds are still above 50/50 with the balance with just a sub and 12 IPCs removed.


  • @The_Good_Captain I think the current balance recommendation is overkill. I think the sub removal or Germany having no bid is sufficient. Leaning towards just removing Germany’s bid as that is more in line with the philosophy you applied to previous editions (with the exception of 1914, where you edited the map itself).

    Alternatively, have you considered having the ME territories be treated as normal, income-generating territories for UK, and ax the current rules regarding ME Payments? That would give UK +8 to their starting income that would (typically) trail off over the course of the game, but they’d have an easier time building a fleet during the first two rounds without needing to resort to shenanigans like a nothing-buy or a Canada-buy B1. That type of change doesn’t seem too far removed over things you recommended in past versions (disallowing attacks on neutrals, mostly)


  • @The_Good_Captain Can’t edit posts in the “Play Boardgames” board but meant to elaborate on removing Germany’s bid.

    If you remove Germany’s bid it allows a greater share of USSR’s starting army to survive the first turn (since that’s generally where the Allied bid will go unless people want to try being creative and keeping some of the UK Navy alive). The lack of a bid for Germany + keeping more of USSR’s starting army alive has a cascading effect on the rest of the game, as it slows down the German advance by ~1-2 turns, which I suspect may be enough for the Western Allies to pursue a more “normal” strategy than what I’d been reduced to in the last few games against you and @VictoryFirst (Fighter spam).

    If the Allies are playing normally and a rush on Moscow is consistently putting up even-ish odds, that’s probably about as good as the balance in this edition is going to get. The OOB Victory Conditions + having USA as a static 30-IPC-per-turn territory and the Allies on-average having 2.5X Germany’s income even after USSR starts to die is never going to create a gameplay loop similar to the “mainline” editions. Germany cannot play a slow game here, nor can they ever simplify the game state to a point where they can.


  • @DoManMacgee

    Interesting thoughts. I like the idea of the ME be worth IPCs for the Brits. Also, this Europe variant which was suggested by Kwaspek has some interesting rules that might help with the balance, although that might change the game a bit too much.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20050419055428/http://www.wargamer.com/axisandallies/europe/houserules/dr/aae_house_rules_germanvictorycondition_rob-ah.html

    One thing I fear is that when the game becomes balanced, it also becomes boring. As we all have experienced those Moscow odds are at this point mostly decided by dice, not that much by strategy. I think with a few minor rule tweaks, we can have both a balanced as well as a more strategical in-depth game. I know @The_Good_Captain isn’t a fan of house rules, but I’ve been told that that website above is from the actual game designer. It basically forces the Germans to not only capture Moscow, but also the rest of the Russian territories with an IC AND keep control of its own factories in Northern Italy and France. Also the ME becomes more interesting. With that, we most likely don’t need to remove any German units or IPCs from the starting setup which is a plus.

    I think the sub removal or Germany having no bid is sufficient.

    I still don’t fully agree with this, however you are right that 70%-ish percent is also kinda even. Balancing this game is like balancing a broom on your finger tips, so I guess it’s almost impossible to get completely balanced anyway.


  • @VictoryFirst

    I will reference the links in the intro video for anyone who wants to peruse the different variants from the designers.

    Yes, balancing any of these is much like balancing a broom on your finger. The recommendations I make in all versions are conservative. I would rather the game remain slightly imbalanced in Germany’s favor than run the risk of misbalancing in favor of the allies.

    I feel that a balanced game by its nature is the most interesting. I feel that there are different plays the German player can make with a good vs bad opening Atlantic. Russia might be a stale player, but I feel this is ‘kind of’ true in many versions. I think its also the most critical to not f**k up because even one piece out of place can spell doom for the Allies. I think the Allies have multiple options at their disposal and @DoManMacgee has convinced me that its not just a threat to Berlin on turn 6 that can win it as the allies.

    I think the minor theaters in this game are interesting. Will the allies win out in the Norway area and secure fighter strips that both threaten Moscow and Berlin at the same time? Will Germany punch through into the Middle East and have extra pieces to defend Berlin on the turn of decision? The minor theaters success or failure constrict or expand the German ability to go past Turn 6 if needs be or make it an “all or nothing” affair if the Allies are winning out elsewhere…


  • @VictoryFirst Kwaspek also ran that forum post by me, but I agree with the idea that changing the victory conditions is too much of a deviation to the point where you’d be entering “house rules” territory.


  • @DoManMacgee just seeing all the balance comments now. The handful of games played without the bid but WITH the sub still saw an anemic western allies response. Just one less boat has a profound affect out there but not so much in favor of the allies and the Germans still seems to win ‘most’ of the games. @Ragnell804 and @VictoryFirst have sorta moved on towards recommending the removal of an infantry in Romania as a third adjustment to try to draw it down to 50/50. I tend to agree with them.

    But I’m hesitant and am still on the uboat removal AND 12 IPC removal. @DoManMacgee would you like to play a game where I am Germany and have both restrictions? We’ll keep track of the dice and all - always appreciate a good pressure test.


  • @The_Good_Captain Yeah that’s fine. I have a game in-progress with VF with the restrictions:

    No Special Cash Advance (SCA) for Germany
    One German sub from Bay of Biscay removed from starting setup
    One German infantry from Germany removed from starting setup
    

    I am currently on-track to lose but had some critical battles not go my way. I also tried deviating from the game-plan I had previously set up so that may also be part of it.

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