L24 OOB Gamerman01 (Axis) vs FlyingBadger (Allies+51) #1

@gamerman01 Is it worth having the US sub to disrupt IPCs from Greece? Or can it do that from SZ97 as that sea zone is also adjacent to Greece?

I’ve ready the manual but I’m still confused about whether a land territory has a specifc sea zone with which it is convoy disrupted, or whether it can be any adjacent sea zone.

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Chinese round 7

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
        1 fighter moved from Shensi to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan
              Chinese take Suiyuyan from Japanese

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Yunnan
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
            Chinese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.50
Japanese regular : 1.33

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 2 carriers, 2 destroyers and 4 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        2 fighters moved from Western United States to 25 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 13 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        11 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 25 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 13 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Americans creates battle in territory 1 Sea Zone
        Battle in 25 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 14 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
            Japanese defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 14 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 : 8/16 hits, 8.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 transport in 25 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/0 hits, 0.00 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 25 Sea Zone
            Americans win with 1 destroyer, 14 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine and 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 25 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        10 fighters moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        5 carriers moved from 13 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 2 submarines moved from 13 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
        1 artillery moved from British Columbia to Western United States
        1 submarine moved from 1 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
        1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq

    Place Units - Americans
        2 carriers, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
        3 submarines placed in 101 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 1 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,3
        Americans collect 51 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 52 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Chinese
        2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
        1 fighter moved from Shensi to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan
              Chinese take Suiyuyan from Japanese

    Combat - Chinese
        Battle in Yunnan
            Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
            Chinese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
            Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
        11 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan

    Place Units - Chinese
        2 infantry placed in Szechwan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 8 PUs

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 destroyer, 5 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Iraq to 98 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
              Chinese take Yunnan from Japanese

    Combat - British
        Battle in 98 Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters
            Germans defend with 1 submarine
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 98 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 98 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 98 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 98 Sea Zone
            British win, taking 98 Sea Zone from Germans with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - British
        2 fighters moved from 98 Sea Zone to Iraq
        1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Iraq
        1 fighter moved from Russia to Iraq
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
        1 armour, 3 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 7 infantry and 6 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 3 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
        2 tactical_bombers moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Shensi to Yunnan
        1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Sikang to Yunnan
        3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 13 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan

    Place Units - British
        2 infantry placed in Persia
        3 infantry placed in Iraq
        1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 106 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - British
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 1 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3
        British collect 33 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 33 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        2 infantry placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 7 PUs
        Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.50
Americans regular : 0.00
Japanese regular : 1.17
Germans regular : -0.33
British regular : -1.67

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 7

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Combat - ANZAC
        ANZAC creates battle in territory 63 Sea Zone

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        2 submarines moved from 63 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 cruiser moved from 13 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Volgograd to Samara

    Place Units - ANZAC
        3 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 63 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 54 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3,5,5
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 62 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,6
        ANZAC collect 6 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 7 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Tambov

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

97 disrupts Greece the same way, and all convoy zones adjacent to a territory can disrupt that territory’s income. So you will do more damage in 97 because the sub in 99 can only disrupt 2 and then no more from that sub will count, plus that sub could work to make sure Germany income gets disrupted in 97. So as far as disruption is concerned, you’d go 97 with everything.
But there could be advantages to being in 99 for the location, like where the sub could go from there (cross Suez, for example)

Thanks, I think I understand it now.

I was considering bolstering Yunnan so the Chinese would have trouble getting the NO. You hit 2/3 and I almost couldn’t even take without losing a plane. With only one man remaining, the dice turned around and bailed me out

Would have been good to have had the Chinese take Yunnan for the NO. Japanese can’t be strong everywhere, but I think I have been slow to pressure the Southern China / Burmese front whilst the air power was elsewhere.

Did you want to move your green sub to 97? I won’t be moving immediately, but if I don’t hear from you I’ll play on

It’s fine, the convoy disruption on the Italians went okay anyway. Just happy I understand that rule better. I think that’s the third one I’ve learned from playing you in this game, as well trying to learn from your play.

Scramble to Zone 92?

Yes, the 3 fighters please.

Oops, I had that man on Normandy for a reason, transport him to French West Africa also

Yep, no problem.

Loss all the ships, except the battleship, just damage that. Also, loss the two US fighters.