L24 PtV Gorshak (Axis+10) vs ArtofWar1947 (Allies) #2

  • 2024

    @ArtofWar1947
    Huge naval battle in the Caroline Sea.

    ANZAC will scramble I guess.

    Any specific order of losses?


  • @Gorshak

    Yes, I fell asleep and realized too late how much air Japan could get to 34.

    Scramble ANZAC fighters.

    Max defense: Tip BBs and CVs; sink subs, then CVs, DDs, CAs, Tacs, BB, and finally ANZAC and then US fighters.

  • 2024

    @ArtofWar1947 said in L24 PtV Gorshak (Axis+10) vs ArtofWar1947 (Allies) #2:

    @Gorshak

    Yes, I fell asleep and realized too late how much air Japan could get to 34.

    I think it would not be nice if a half-asleep counting mistake in your last turn would decide the game.

    If you feel like it you can choose on of the following:

    • redo your (complete or NCM - up to you) pacific turn with USA/ANZAC of the last round (edit current savegame)

    • we leave it like it is, but I will not attack the fleet - probably invade the Carolines again by land though

    The choice is yours


  • @Gorshak

    Thank you for your most generous offer. Let me consider the first option.


  • @Gorshak

    Except for the 2 TTs, will move the entire US fleet from 34 to 49.
    Will move the 2 US DDs in 31 to 27.

    Will move the entire ANZAC fleet from 34 to 49–unless the US does not take the Carolines in a re-battle. (Think this is only fair.) If the US does not take the Carolines, one ANZAC DD would need to be diverted to 47.

    The ANZAC CV would move from 31 to 49.

    The 2 ANZAC fighters would stay in Queensland.

    Do you want me to redo the Carolines battle and edit the present J11 CM?

  • 2024

    @ArtofWar1947

    Let me see if I understand this correctly:

    • USA/ANZAC main fleets will move from 34 to 49

    • you only want to attack the Carolines with 3 Inf, 1 Art and 6 Fig (and 2 TT unloading them)? No Marine landing or naval bombardment?

      • If that is the case, 3 Japanese Zeroes would scramble and try to save the Islands for the glory of the empire
    • if you lose the Caroline island battle, 1 ANZAC DD will block sz 47 (instead of going to 49)

    • ANZAC CV, Fighters and US DD is clear, no questions there

    If my assumptions above are correct, then you can redo the Carolines battle and edit the changes in your last russian savegame.
    I would then completely redo the current Jap turn.


  • @Gorshak

    I forgot that if the marines invades, the CA has to stay, Let me think through the implications. I think I need to fully retire before playing PTV.


  • @Gorshak

    Revised plan:

    USA/ANZAC main fleets in 34 minus US CA and 2 US TTs will move from 34 to 49

    Attack the Carolines with 3 Inf, 1 Art, 1 MARINE, and 6 Fig (and 2 TT unloading them)? Naval bombardment by CA.

    Two ANZAC Fig on Carolines to SZ 49.

    ANZAC land force in Queensland retreats to NSW.

    If US should lose the Caroline island battle, may use 1 ANZAC DD to block access to Gilberts (instead of going to 49).

  • 2024

    @ArtofWar1947
    Ok. The Japanese Fighters will scramble anyway.

    Feels like beginning of kamikaze times
    (I do not expect them to survive - just to kill at least 3 US planes)


  • @Gorshak

    Unless I hear differently, I will edit the R11 map so that you can redo the J11 purchase and CM.


  • @Gorshak

    US v Carolines

    CA bombard [dice 1d6<=3]
    2 inf [dice 2d6<=1]
    Inf + art + mar [dice 3d6<=2]
    6 fig [dice 6d6<=3]

    J: 3 inf+2 art + 1 mar [dice 6d6<=2]
    J: 3 fig [dice 3d6<=4]


  • 1d6<=3: 2; Hits: 1
    2d6<=1: 5, 5; Hits: 0
    3d6<=2: 1, 4, 6; Hits: 1
    6d6<=3: 5, 5, 4, 2, 1, 3; Hits: 3
    6d6<=2: 3, 4, 3, 6, 4, 6; Hits: 0
    3d6<=4: 1, 4, 3; Hits: 3


  • @Gorshak

    US: Art + mar [dice 3d6<=2]
    US: 6 fig [dice 6d6<=3]

    J: 1 mar [dice 1d6<=2]
    J: 3 fig [dice 3d6<=4]


  • 3d6<=2: 2, 3, 1; Hits: 2
    6d6<=3: 6, 1, 2, 3, 6, 2; Hits: 4
    1d6<=2: 4; Hits: 0
    3d6<=4: 4, 3, 2; Hits: 3


  • 2024

    TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 11

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

    Game History

    Round: 11
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 3 artilleries, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 11 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Siberia
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Sakha
                  Japanese take Sakha from Russians
            2 artilleries and 15 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Buryatia
                  Japanese take Buryatia from Russians
            1 bomber moved from Davao to Siberia
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Inner Mongolia
            1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry moved from Shansi to Inner Mongolia
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Honan
                  Japanese take Honan from Chinese
            1 bomber moved from Kiangsu to Inner Mongolia
            5 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hopei
            1 infantry moved from Hunan to Hopei
            1 infantry moved from Tanganyika Territory to Rhodesia
                  Japanese take Rhodesia from British
            2 fighters moved from 132 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Davao to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 34 Sea Zone
            3 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 21 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Marianas
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Jehol to Hopei
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Marianas
            Battle in Inner Mongolia
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Inner Mongolia
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Inner Mongolia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Inner Mongolia
                Japanese win, taking Marianas from Americans, taking Inner Mongolia from Chinese with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Siberia
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 armour
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Siberia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Siberia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Siberia
                Japanese win, taking Siberia from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
            Battle in 34 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 3 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 7 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers
                Americans defend with 1 cruiser and 2 transports
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 7 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 : 11/21 hits, 10,83 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser and 2 transports in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                    1 cruiser owned by the Americans and 2 transports owned by the Americans lost in 34 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 3 battleships, 5 carriers, 2 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 7 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23
                Casualties for Americans: 1 cruiser and 2 transports
            Battle in Hopei
                Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 7 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 aaGun and 6 infantry
                    British roll AA dice in Hopei : 0/3 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 7 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Hopei, round 2 : 4/13 hits, 4,67 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 aaGun and 6 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                    4 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei
                    1 aaGun owned by the British and 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Hopei
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Hopei, round 3 : 3/9 hits, 4,00 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei
                    3 infantry owned by the British lost in Hopei
                Japanese win, taking Hopei from Chinese with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 5 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 6 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Hopei to Kwangtung
            1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
            1 fighter moved from Inner Mongolia to Kiangsu
            1 bomber moved from Inner Mongolia to Kiangsu
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shansi
            1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Chahar
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
            1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol
            2 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Buyant-Uhaa
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Manchuria to Buryatia
            1 bomber moved from Siberia to Amur
            3 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 artillery moved from Tanganyika Territory to 74 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Kenya to 74 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from French Madagascar to 74 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 marine, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports moved from 74 Sea Zone to 60 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 40 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern India to Yunnan
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Paulau to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Paulau to 35 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 fighter moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 fighter moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 submarine placed in 132 Sea Zone
            3 destroyers placed in 40 Sea Zone
            Japanese undo move 2.
            1 destroyer placed in 40 Sea Zone
            2 infantry placed in Malaya
            1 fighter placed in Japan
            2 destroyers placed in 7 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Southern Manchuria
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kwangtung
            3 infantry placed in French Indo China
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 77 PUs; end with 77 PUs
            Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 80 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 85 PUs
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 90 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 1,00
    Americans regular : 0,50
    Japanese regular : -4,00
    British AA : -0,50
    Russians regular : -0,50
    

    Savegame


  • @Gorshak

    GOR-41003_11-UK.tsvg

    Game History

    Round: 11
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 4 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Kenya
                  Americans take Kenya from Japanese
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to 100 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to 100 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports moved from 100 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 74 Sea Zone to Tanganyika Territory
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 74 Sea Zone to French Madagascar
            1 destroyer moved from 104 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to 107 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone
            5 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 93 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Americans
            Battle in French Madagascar
            Battle in Tanganyika Territory
            Battle in 107 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 7 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 107 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking French Madagascar from Japanese, taking Tanganyika Territory from Japanese with 1 destroyer, 7 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
    
        Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter moved from 100 Sea Zone to Slovakia Hungary
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 107 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            6 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 107 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 submarine moved from 100 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from 93 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 49 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 battleship, 5 carriers, 1 cruiser, 7 destroyers, 4 fighters, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports moved from 49 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 transport moved from 2 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Americans
            2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States
            1 submarine placed in 11 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 104 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States
    
        Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
    
        Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Szechwan to Hopei
    
        Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Hopei
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei
                Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
    
        Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Hopei to Tsinghai
            3 infantry moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai
    
        Place Units - Chinese
            3 infantry placed in Tsinghai
    
        Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 8 PUs
    
        Combat Move - British
    
        Non Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Crete to 100 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to 100 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 100 Sea Zone to Slovakia Hungary
            2 fighters moved from Egypt to Slovakia Hungary
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 100 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to 100 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 3 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 3 infantry, 4 submarines and 4 transports moved from 100 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            2 aaGuns, 3 armour, 3 artilleries, 15 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Persia to Baluchistan
            1 transport moved from 85 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Morocco
    
        Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese regular : 0.33
    Americans regular : 0.67
    Japanese regular : 0.00
    Germans regular : -0.33
    

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