L24: Arthur Bomber Harris vs Farmboy (A+41) OOB

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 26, 2024, 2:27 AM

@farmboy hmmm, I don’t remember. How do you want to resolve this?

farmboy · Jun 26, 2024, 2:36 AM

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris its going to take me a little while to figure out this move. So we have some time. I’ve gotten the convoy rolls already but not hte combat from the Japan turn. I expect that over the next day we should see more rolls come in so hopefully those come in too. If we don’t see rolls for Philippines than I think its best to roll it in the dice roller here.

If you definitively remembered the rolling happen, I would just leave it, but the summary text seems to suggest a glitch.

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 26, 2024, 2:41 AM

@farmboy i was clicking through everything on screen and don’t remember.

If you want to do it on the forum, lose an infantry first and then a plane if I take a second casualty.

farmboy · Jun 26, 2024, 2:47 AM

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris I’ll wait to see if it comes up in teh dice first. I won’t be able to decide on my turn in any case. Hopefully tomorrow morning we will see. I don’t want to roll here if it is moot.

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 26, 2024, 3:08 AM

@farmboy sounds fair.

farmboy · Jun 26, 2024, 3:19 AM

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris I think most if not all of the dice just came in (are you seeing them too? I don’t see philippines yet among them. Still will wait until at least morning but that makes me think it was some weird glitch.

farmboy · Jun 26, 2024, 4:17 AM

I just tried the dice bot to see. I thought I was doing it here but it was in this topic here https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/39917/when-you-need-a-topic-to-use-the-dicebot-do-it-here?_=1719375271935

you will see that you got the hits you needed and I missed.

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 26, 2024, 7:56 AM

@farmboy thanks for the rolls! That was a crazy lucky Japan turn.

farmboy · Jun 27, 2024, 1:02 AM

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 9

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 9

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 4 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
              Chinese take Manchuria from Japanese
        1 mech_infantry moved from Korea to Buryatia
              Russians take Buryatia from Germans
        1 bomber moved from Korea to 26 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
              Americans take 22 Sea Zone from Japanese
        1 bomber moved from Korea to 35 Sea Zone
        3 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from Caroline Islands to Marshall Islands
        2 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands
        1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
              British take Alexandria from Italians
        1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
        2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Korea to Yakut S.S.R.

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Holland Belgium

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

farmboy · Jun 27, 2024, 1:03 AM

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris posting in the event you want the sub fight in 36

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 27, 2024, 1:06 AM

fight with the sub but take the destroyer as the hit. submerge if I ever lose the destroyer

farmboy · Jun 27, 2024, 1:13 AM

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris sorry I assumed you probably wouldn’t but can redo with dice here.

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 27, 2024, 1:15 AM

@farmboy probably just means you have to roll the sub the first round with a 1 in 6 chance of hitting? I assume your planes got a hit?

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 27, 2024, 1:17 AM

If I understand the battle mechanics, there was zero downsides of the sub staying and fighting on turn 1. No chance it would be sunk.

farmboy · Jun 27, 2024, 1:18 AM

low chance. But if I hit with my sub and with air you have to lose your sub to my sub. You can’t take the destroyer as casualty first from the sub so that your sub can’t be hit.

farmboy · Jun 27, 2024, 1:19 AM

might be worth double checking but that is my understanding.

farmboy · Jun 27, 2024, 1:23 AM

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in L24: Arthur Bomber Harris vs Farmboy (A+41) OOB:

@farmboy probably just means you have to roll the sub the first round with a 1 in 6 chance of hitting? I assume your planes got a hit?

I’m probably fine doing that as well. if you are comfortable with the rest of the rolls. My sub missed, my air hit and your destroyer hit.

If I’m right on the mechanics we probably need to do a complete reroll since you need to make the decision on your sub without knowing whether it was hit. But if you are right than it is just a free 1/6 roll and so we can just do the one die.

Arthur Bomber Harris · Jun 27, 2024, 1:26 AM

@farmboy I checked through the mechanics and I had no chance of losing that sub even if all of your units hit.

Please roll its dice. I assume that you had a plane hit on turn 1?

farmboy · Jun 27, 2024, 1:30 AM

@Arthur-Bomber-Harris I’ve asked about it because I have a recollection being told that one has to take a sub hit on a sub so that air can hit the other units in situations where both the sub and air have hit. But this is easy to correct after and its a minor and potentially moot issue so will do the roll below.

@dicebot

defending sub
at 1
[dice 1d6]

dicebot · Jun 27, 2024, 1:30 AM

1d6: 5

L24: Arthur Bomber Harris vs Farmboy (A+41) OOB

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 9

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