PanzerStahl vs barnee EXP

barnee

@Panzerstahl-Helm oh yea, I kept that para over the bmbr. Go ahead and change if you want

Panzerstahl-Helm

I just figured that the battle reoorts look different than the once for normal G40 or any other game. I am missing the number of hits for each battle round and the average hits per round. But thats not important and no need to fix.
I will take a look at the game after my coffee and I will go through your notes regarding player enforced movements etc.

Syria was quit a gamble - you had ~10% chance of winning.

barnee

@Panzerstahl-Helm yea I wasn’t expecting to win in syria. Just wanted to kill those ground pounders. Don’t want them getting loose in the middle east lol

Yea I noticed that too. The hits not showing up. Idky that is. It’s kind of a cool stat.

No hurry. I’ll be on for a couple more hours yet if you have any questions.

Rock on
Rock On !!!.png

Panzerstahl-Helm

@barnee

Che cazzo! - I was sweating after the first round in Egypt, were the British hit 7 out of 9! But all good at the end. :-) Egypt is liberated and people can enjoy good italian food now rather than the British junk food. :D

I used the LVC in Syria and tried to move them via Edit through SZ98 into Egypt, but TripleA wouldn´t allowe it. So I moved them through Trans-Jordan into Egypt. While doing that Trans-Jordan was conquered by Italy. I changed the ownership back to UK.

Nice move with the paratroops! I need to keep an eye on these as well in the future. Oh boy, who would have thought that a world war can become stressfull…

It seems the hits per round are showing again in the turn summary.

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 air_transport, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceItalians: Italians has 1 Rail placed in Southern Italy
        Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Italians takes Trans-Jordan from British
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Trans-Jordan from Italians to British
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
        2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Egypt
        EDIT: 2 Italian_LCVs moved from Syria to Egypt

    Combat - Italians
        Battle in Egypt
            Italians attack with 2 Italian_LCVs, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            British defend with 1 bomber, 1 harbour, 2 infantry, 1 uk_armour, 1 uk_fighter and 1 uk_tactical_bomber; French defend with 1 infantry; ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser in Egypt, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 2 Italian_LCVs, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Egypt, round 2 : 4/12 hits, 4,00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 bomber, 5 infantry, 1 uk_armour, 1 uk_fighter and 1 uk_tactical_bomber in Egypt, round 2 : 7/9 hits, 3,50 expected hits
                2 Italian_LCVs owned by the Italians and 5 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Egypt
                1 bomber owned by the British, 1 infantry owned by the French and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Egypt
                Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry in Egypt, round 3 : 5/7 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                British roll dice for 2 infantry, 1 uk_armour, 1 uk_fighter and 1 uk_tactical_bomber in Egypt, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                2 artilleries owned by the Italians lost in Egypt
                2 infantry owned by the ANZAC, 1 uk_fighter owned by the British, 1 uk_tactical_bomber owned by the British and 1 uk_armour owned by the British lost in Egypt
            Italians win, taking Egypt from British with 2 armour, 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
            Casualties for Italians: 2 Italian_LCVs, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry
            Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 2 infantry, 1 uk_armour, 1 uk_fighter and 1 uk_tactical_bomber
            Casualties for French: 1 infantry
            Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveItalians: has removed 1 Rail owned by Italians in Greece
        2 fighters moved from Egypt to Alexandria
        1 italian_para moved from Syria to Iraq
              Italians take Iraq from Neutral_Axis
        1 Rail and 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Greece

    Place Units - Italians
        1 air_transport, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
        1 infantry placed in Northern Italy
        1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs
        Trigger Italians AdvancedProduction: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs
        Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 21 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 1,50
British regular : 3,17

exp-game-1-stahl-it-3.tsvg

barnee

@Panzerstahl-Helm heh heh right arm :muscle: Good Action. I almost said something about the paratroopers, but you’d bought one with JPN and moved him. Plus you sunk the US Fleet, so i need as much help as i can get lol :)

At least the tommies put up a decent fight even if they can’t cook worth a shit.

My brothers gf is a brit and while she’s easy on the eye, he does all the cooking lol

barnee

@Panzerstahl-Helm yea the LCVs require Edit unless there just moving 1 in NCM by land. There a Land unit for xml purposes, so can’t move them across the water.

Good move bringing them to the Attack as hit soakers. :+1: As long as they attack, even if empty, they can take a hit. Only on defense is when they can’t.

barnee

@Panzerstahl-Helm

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 1 Hvy_Ind_1, 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 PUs; 

    Place Units - ANZAC
        Units in New South Wales being upgraded or consumed: 1 factory_minor
        1 Hvy_Ind_1 placed in New South Wales

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland
        1 mech_infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland

    Place Units - ANZAC
        1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
        2 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 20 PUs
        Trigger ANZAC Liberates DNG Turn3: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 22 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 27 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
        1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
        3 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
        1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

EXP Game 1 Stahl F 3.tsvg

barnee

@Panzerstahl-Helm ahh yea so triplea picks the route to Egypt with the LCVs. Since there land they won’t let you stop in the water and then move again even in edit

Panzerstahl-Helm

@barnee

Hi,

I am simulating my G4 move and besides others I am attacking Norway to liberate it from the UK-Paratrooper by using 3 inf + 1 bomber.
The very first round your paratroop defends with a pre-shot at “1”
The Paratroop hit the “1” and now I have to select a casuality without firing a shot.

According to the rules a paratrop defends at “3” the first round, but no pre-shot like in below example.

Is that correct?
If not, how should I proceed?

BR

Panzerstahl-Helm

Test dicebot (to see how it works)

[dice 1d6<=2]

dicebot

1d6<=2: 1; Hits: 1

barnee

@Panzerstahl-Helm yea that was the only way to simulate the 1st rd shot at 3. The problem mainly is if there shot at 1 hits, it auto kills and you can’t shoot back.

Victory discovered you can do the battle in edit and ignore the first para or wolfpack rolls and then just pick the correct casualties accordingly.

Problem is if you make a mistake in edit, it’s harder to fix. I’d suggest trying it in local mode and you’ll see how it works.

barnee

@Panzerstahl-Helm so in your example it’d go like this

Ignore Airborne Roll

Screenshot from 2023-10-03 16-59-34.png

Bmbr gets a hit

Screenshot from 2023-10-03 17-02-04.png

Screenshot from 2023-10-03 17-02-25.png

Para rolls and gets a 3, which is a hit for the first rd. Note it doesn’t show as a hit.

Screenshot from 2023-10-03 17-02-39.png

Screenshot from 2023-10-03 17-02-49.png

barnee

@Panzerstahl-Helm finished fixing the Boxes. Here’s the new place. It’ll work in our game.

place.txt

Panzerstahl-Helm

@barnee

Good morning.
I will use the edit mode for the paratroops and the dicebot for the results. I will do some testing again and to try to do thr battle rounds in one run.
My G4 will come later on when I am back home. I have to go to the office today.

The text-file you send looks interesting. Lot of numbers 😜

barnee

@Panzerstahl-Helm heh heh right arm :muscle: Dam I thought you might be retired. Hate it when work gets in the way :)

Yea so the place.txt is the coordinates for all the possible placements on the map. Width then Height. Like sizing a window :)

The units are placed at 76 x 54 for Land and 100 x 56 for Sea. Try and keep the units at least a couple pixels smaller.

I’m thinking I might squeeze the Havy BBs a couple, there at 98 right now and shrink regular a couple. Make em a little easier to tell apart. Yhey got the 4th shell right now.

Anyway, I’m rambling again lol

Just replace the current one with it. It’s in your map folder under downloadedMaps … uhd_boxes map then you’ll see it.

I didn’t wanna micro the instructions, so I didn’t say anything lol :) I never know when i’m giving too much information or not enough lol

barnee

@Panzerstahl-Helm here’s another one just because it was buggin me :)

Fixes the little island off Jordan. He didn’t get grabbed on the syria fix.
polygons.txt

I’ll be exact this time like I shoulda last time lol

Go to
triplea folder
downloadedMaps
global_40_expansion_uhd_boxes
map

You’ll see the polygons.txt there. Replace with the above and it’ll look like this now

Screenshot from 2023-10-04 02-16-52.png

:)

Panzerstahl-Helm

@barnee

Howdy,

good action! The first SS-Group is created - now its getting ugly!
With this and the 1st Panzer Army I created Army Group Center, lead by Gen. Heinz Guderian!
Fürs Vaterland!

I used edit mode to simulate the attacks against your paratroops! Good news - it worked like charme and you can even see the results in the game history! Bad news - all your paratroops died! …but long live the Queen (respectivly the King!)

Game History

Round: 4

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Note to players Germans: <body><b>It is Late 1941 and Nations Around the World are Producing Naval Mines to Protect their Sea Lanes.<br />Use Edit to Place and Remove Naval Mines as Needed.<b></body>
        Note to players Germans: It is Late 1941 and Nations Around the World are Producing Naval Escorts to Counter the U-Boat and Submarine Threat! Transports Now Defend at 1 . Use Edit to Place and Remove Escort Convoys ....
        Trigger TransportsD1: Setting defense to 1 for unitAttachment attached to transport
        Trigger RocketsUSSR: buyRussian_Rockets added to productionRussians
        Trigger FrenchEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionFrench
        Trigger BritishEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionBritish
        Trigger ANZACEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionANZAC
        Trigger AmericansEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionAmericans
        Trigger RussiansEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionRussians
        Trigger JapaneseEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionJapanese
        Trigger ItaliansEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionItalians
        Trigger GermansEscortsA3: buyEscort added to productionGermans
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine added to productionGermans
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine added to productionJapanese
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine added to productionAmericans
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine added to productionBritish
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine added to productionANZAC
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine added to productionItalians
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine2 added to productionGermans
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine2 added to productionJapanese
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine2 added to productionAmericans
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine2 added to productionBritish
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine2 added to productionANZAC
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine2 added to productionItalians
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine3 added to productionGermans
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine3 added to productionJapanese
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine3 added to productionAmericans
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine3 added to productionBritish
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine3 added to productionANZAC
        Trigger GermansNavalMines: buyNavalMine3 added to productionItalians
        triggerAttachmenLate1941Red: has removed 1 Late1941 owned by Changer in Late 1941
        triggerAttachmenEarly1941: has removed 1 Early1941_red owned by Changer in Early 1941
        triggerAttachmenLate1941Red: Changer has 1 Late1941_red placed in Late 1941
        triggerAttachmenEarly1941: Changer has 1 Early1941 placed in Early 1941
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing PUs for Germans from 66 to 63
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Germans buy 1 Panzer_Grndrs, 1 Repair_BB, 1 air_transport, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 elite, 5 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Place Units - Germans
        Units in Germany being upgraded or consumed: 1 waffen_infantry
        1 Waffen_Oberst placed in Germany
        1 Repair_BB placed in 110 Sea Zone

    Combat Move - Germans
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermans: Germans has 2 Rails placed in Germany
        1 unit repaired.
        Trigger Germans RemoveRepair BB: has removed 1 Repair_BB owned by Germans in 110 Sea Zone
        3 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
        1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Denmark
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone
        1 GermanUBoat moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
        1 Panzer_Grndrs, 1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
        1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Southern France

    Combat - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Battle in Norway
            EDIT: Germans attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
            EDIT: British defend with 1 uk_para
                EDIT: 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                EDIT: 1/4 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                EDIT: 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
            EDIT: 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Norway
            EDIT: 1 uk_para owned by the British lost in Norway
            EDIT: Germans takes Norway from British
            EDIT: Germans win
            EDIT: Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 1
        EDIT: Battle in Holland Belgium
            EDIT: Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            EDIT: British defend with 1 uk_para
                EDIT: 1/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                EDIT: 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                EDIT: 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
            EDIT: 1 uk_para owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium
            EDIT: Germans takes Holland Belgium from British
            EDIT: Germans win
            EDIT: Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 4
        EDIT: Battle in Denmark
            EDIT: Germans attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: British defend with 1 uk_para
                EDIT: 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                EDIT: 2/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits
                EDIT: 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
            EDIT: 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Denmark
            EDIT: 1 uk_para owned by the British lost in Denmark
            EDIT: Germans takes Denmark from British
            EDIT: Germans win
            EDIT: Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 1
        EDIT: Battle in Southern France
            EDIT: Germans attack with 1 Panzer_Grndrs, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: British defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 uk_para
                EDIT: 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                EDIT: 1/4 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                EDIT: 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
            EDIT: 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Southern France
            EDIT: 1 uk_para owned by the British lost in Southern France
            EDIT: Germans takes Southern France from British
            EDIT: Germans win
            EDIT: Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 1
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Battle in 104 Sea Zone
            Germans attack with 1 GermanUBoat and 1 bomber
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans roll Wolfpack_Attack dice in 104 Sea Zone : 0/0 hits, 0,00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 GermanUBoat in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 104 Sea Zone
            Germans win with 1 GermanUBoat and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermansItalyTakeover: has removed 1 Rail owned by Germans in Romania
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermansItalyTakeover: has removed 1 Rail owned by Germans in Normandy Bordeaux
        Trigger Urals Tank Unit: Russians has 1 armour placed in Urals
        1 bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to Western Germany
        1 fighter moved from Southern France to 110 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Denmark to 110 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from Western Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        1 Waffen_Oberst moved from Germany to Romania
        2 Me_109Ts and 1 carrier moved from 99 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 Rail and 1 elite moved from Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 German_Engineer moved from Germany to Romania
        1 Rail and 1 artillery moved from Germany to Romania
        2 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
        1 waffen_infantry moved from Romania to Germany
        3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Syria to Western Germany
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Alexandria to Southern Italy
        EDIT: 1 Waffen_Arty, 1 Waffen_Oberst and 2 waffen_infantrys moved from Romania to 1st Waffen
        EDIT: 1 1stWaffenArmy moved from 1st Waffen to Army Group Centre
        EDIT: 1 ArmyGroupCentre moved from Army Group Centre to Romania
        EDIT: 1 1stPanzerArmy moved from Romania to Army Group Centre
        EDIT: 1 German_Engineer, 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Romania to Army Group Centre
        EDIT: 1 ArmyGroupActive moved from Army Group Centre to Romania
        EDIT: Germans undo move 20.
        1 Waffen_Arty moved from Romania to Germany

    Place Units - Germans
        1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 110 Sea Zone
        1 air_transport, 1 bomber and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany
        1 Panzer_Grndrs, 1 artillery, 1 elite and 4 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,4
        Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs
        Trigger Germans AdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 12 PUs; end with 56 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
        Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0,33
Germans regular : 0,00
EDIT: : 2,83
Germans Wolfpack_Attack : 0,00

exp-game-1-stahl-g-4.tsvg

barnee

@Panzerstahl-Helm Hi Did you want to move the Air in syria and the CV off Greece ?

Also AA can’t be part of AG. I’ll swap and Inf for him.

barnee

@barnee oops nvm I didn’t go all the way through your turn lol

PanzerStahl vs barnee EXP

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