Why is surrender not an option in the original game?

@superbattleshipyamato ok maybe I’m not understanding your question. I’m making the assumption anyone can resign/ surrender at anytime like any other game. Chess comes to mind as the prime example. You don’t need a rule for that, right?

Personally, i have rarely played a game where the victory conditions were enforced. Typically, one player resigns when it is apparent that the other will win.

@SuperbattleshipYamato So are you talking about a whole side surrendering,or an individual nation surrendering?Variants like BBR or BalancedMod use Vichy rules for France.1914 has the Russian revolution.Historically Italy surrendered in 1943.Could be house rules for anything.

@SuperbattleshipYamato said in Why is surrender not an option in the original game?:

@surfer

I don’t make that assumption. My view is that since surrender wasn’t explicitly mentioned in the rules it’s not allowed.

Every game out there basically allows 1 of the players to give up. Its a game if you think you lost you can give up.
What would you do force a player to continue playing?
Its not in the rules because its so obvious it doesnt need to be in the rules.

@SuperbattleshipYamato said in Why is surrender not an option in the original game?:

@shadowhawk

I don’t force.

But when playing by myself or if I’m the one losing I always play to the end.

Why? If your axis and its clear you will lose why continue for another 12 hours. Especially if allies are winning things will go slowly downhill for the axis but it takes many rounds before tokyo, berlin and rome are captured. You could stack tokyo with about 50-60 inf and a load of fighters so then good luck invading as the allies. 1 kamikaze a turn means 6 turns without shore bombardment as well.

@SuperbattleshipYamato I’m sorry but this sounds really lame and unfun.

@SuperbattleshipYamato you can surrender and you should when you have no hope of victory. I will consider you an ass if you make me play it out to full.

Theoretically, at that point I would quit anyway. Leave and never play at your house again. Or do you chain ppl. to the table.

@SuperbattleshipYamato said in Why is surrender not an option in the original game?:

@shadowhawk

In my view, since it wasn’t explicitly said by the rulebook that you can surrender, I don’t.

I dont recall ever seeing the option to give up with any boardgames, its assumed people just know that they can lose a game by giving up.
Im pretty sure that other games, baseball, soccer, basketball, and so on, dont have rules that allow a team to give up but that if a team doesnt continue play they just lose the game.

@shadowhawk li
Lol… that’s exactly what happens if you surrender- it means you lose the game.

@SuperbattleshipYamato the game you made TGC play you out to final victory conditions and he ended up building a huge stack of Battleships and took paris and killed your Atlantic fleet because he didn’t actually need to build ground troops anymore? Sounds boring I’m sure the signs were there that you were losing many rounds before the actual end.

Maby if the allies are winning they could make your stay at the game verry annoying.
Once japan lost its fleet and has the US parked around its mainland its as good as dead.

So maby the allied player could first capture all the islands japan has with a single transport. Your turn will consist of skipping because no money and nothing to move. Allied player will have all countries to play with guess you will get bored from the game.