4 hits in 110, lose the ships first or keep the BB?
L22 Pejon_88 (X) vs. Gamerman01 (A+15), BM4, game #2
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@gamerman01 Damn! I haven’t seen anyone airstrike versus Germany before. I’ve heard that air striking in China is not even cost effective. What happened to your conventional plays?
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I can’t do it. I just can’t play like those guys for long.
I can’t comment on the airstrikes at this time other than to say with US bombers, especially when the one let me land planes in Nenetsia, was definitely “cost effective”. Also, taking out the tank in Caucasus was the right thing to do, though I got hit there.
Same with China - it’s not about the IPC replacement cost, it’s situational. Don’t tell me you look at IPC costs like most do… :hushed:
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@gamerman01 said in L22 Pejon_88 (X) vs. Gamerman01 (A+15), BM4, game #2:
I can’t comment on the airstrikes at this time other than to say with US bombers, especially when the one let me land planes in Nenetsia, was definitely “cost effective”.
Better word than cost effective would be strategic… Bomber vs infantry by expected TUV change is of course not “cost effective”
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@gamerman01 I think that it’s important to look at the TUV change because it tells us something at least although the strategic value may be more important.
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I am strategically trying to make you over-confident :smirk:
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Round: 10 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 armour, 6 infantry, 9 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by French from Russia: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Archangel: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 3 infantry moved from Rostov to Volgograd 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Bryansk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Volgograd 1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Volgograd 2 bombers moved from Romania to Volgograd 1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Volgograd Combat - Germans Battle in Volgograd Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Volgograd, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Battle in Bryansk Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bryansk, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 3 mech_infantrys moved from Norway to Vyborg 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Romania 2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy 1 armour and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Holland Belgium to Northern Italy 2 aaGuns and 3 artilleries moved from Holland Belgium to France 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Egypt 5 armour and 10 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Rostov 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Rostov 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Rostov 2 bombers moved from Volgograd to Romania 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 124 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France 2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia Place Units - Germans 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 3 infantry placed in France 2 tactical_bombers placed in Western Germany 1 armour and 9 mech_infantrys placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 80 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -1,33 Germans regular : 1,00Removed the units from the -27 TUV move you did with Franz ;)
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I’m sorry, something went wrong. I edited the blue fighter and grey man away but must not have saved and over-written correctly because I see they’re still on the F9 file. Thanks for getting it
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@gamerman01 Yes no worries! Happens when we do forum thread battles :)
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My first round opponent will be going on a 3 week vacation later this week, so then this will be my only game during that time.
We stepped up the pace recently - the first round game across from us ended, so Me 1945 is waiting for the winner of our game.
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@gamerman01 I understand. I think it makes sense prioritizing play off games.
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Finally!
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Oh. I just realized I do still have the Russian sub in this game. Probably won’t affect Japan so go ahead, but I need to figure out where I want it, thanks
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Dramatic move to 92
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@gamerman01 You can certainly move it now.
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@pejon_88 Round: 10
Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 8 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 5 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 bomber moved from Malaya to Burma 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Burma 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 1 bomber moved from Kiangsu to Chahar 2 tactical_bombers moved from Korea to Chahar 1 fighter moved from Kiangsu to Chahar 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Hopei 1 armour moved from Anhwe to Hopei 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kiangsu to Hopei 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to Paulau Island 1 fighter moved from Philippines to 34 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 34 Sea Zone to Paulau Island 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar 1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Hopei 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei Combat - Japanese Battle in 22 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 22 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in 34 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 transport Americans defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 34 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in Paulau Island Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Paulau Island, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 3,83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Paulau Island, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Paulau Island Japanese win, taking Paulau Island from Americans with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Szechwan Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Szechwan, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan Japanese win with 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Chahar Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Chahar, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar Japanese win, taking Chahar from Chinese with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Hopei Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Hopei, round 2 : 0/6 hits, 1,83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Hopei, round 3 : 4/6 hits, 1,83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Japanese win, taking Hopei from Chinese with 1 armour, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Burma Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Burma, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2,00 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Burma Japanese win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 marine moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 2 destroyers and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 2 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Szechwan to French Indo China 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to French Indo China 1 armour moved from Yunnan to Kweichow 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hopei to Hunan 1 fighter moved from Chahar to Kiangsu 1 bomber moved from Chahar to French Indo China 1 tactical_bomber moved from Chahar to Anhwe 1 tactical_bomber moved from Chahar to Anhwe 1 fighter moved from 34 Sea Zone to Philippines 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Paulau Island to 35 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Japan to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria 2 fighters moved from Korea to Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Korea to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines Place Units - Japanese 3 infantry placed in Kwangtung 3 infantry placed in Kiangsu 1 carrier placed in 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry placed in French Indo China 2 fighters placed in Japan 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 61 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 0,33 Americans regular : -0,33 Japanese regular : 0,00 UK_Pacific regular : 0,67 -
You had decent defense rolls there.
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@gamerman01 I was too fast to see this. Please adjust during Allies turn.
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@pejon_88 Average feels amazing! 1 hit less would have been below average if you don’t count your big whiff (which I’ve seen plenty of lately, v elche)
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Very crisp move, with only one little undo! Maybe you ran it through another time or two before? Maybe not? Wow.
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Mine’s not as crisp.
Hope it’s OK during British combat move to edit 1 American DD and 2 transports back to 92
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