PTV OwenToo vs max334 (Axis)

max334

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 17

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

Game History

Round: 17

    Purchase Units - Italians
        Italians buy 1 fighter and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Italians

    Non Combat Move - Italians
        1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
        1 armour moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
        1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
        1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
        2 armour moved from Northern Italy to Romania
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
        1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        1 aaGun moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
        1 infantry moved from Southern France to France
        1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
        1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria
        1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria
        1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy

    Place Units - Italians
        1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Southern Italy
        1 infantry placed in Northern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4,4,4,6,2,5,5,3,6
        Italians collect 7 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 7 PUs

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OwenToo

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 17

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

Game History

Round: 17

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy nothing; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; 

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from New South Wales to 65 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 18 PUs

    Combat Move - French
        1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria

    Non Combat Move - French

    Turn Complete - French

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max334

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 18

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

Game History

Round: 18

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 6 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus
              Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians
        1 infantry moved from Northern Belarus to Novgorod
        1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
              Germans take Normandy Bordeaux from Americans

    Combat - Germans

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 armour moved from Archangel to Novgorod
        1 armour moved from Nenetsia to Novgorod
        1 armour moved from Leningrad to Novgorod
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Vologda to Novgorod
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Vologda
        3 infantry moved from Leningrad to Novgorod
        2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 116 Sea Zone to Novgorod
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Novgorod
        1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Tunisia
        5 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers moved from Yugoslavia to Tunisia
        6 armour and 2 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
        1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 116 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
        2 transports moved from 118 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Denmark to 115 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway
        1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
        2 carriers moved from 116 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Denmark to 116 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 116 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Leningrad
        1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from Poland to Southern Italy
        1 bomber moved from Finland to France
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus
        2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Eastern Poland
        1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
        10 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia

    Place Units - Germans
        1 submarine placed in 95 Sea Zone
        1 submarine placed in 115 Sea Zone
        1 submarine placed in 115 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in Western Germany
        Germans undo move 4.
        2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany
        2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Germany
        4 infantry placed in Western Germany
        Germans undo move 6.
        3 infantry placed in Leningrad
        1 infantry placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,5,6,1,5,6,5,4,4,2
        Germans collect 54 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs
        Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
        Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 3 artilleries and 3 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from France: 3 artilleries and 3 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

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max334

pls dont attack my North Africa panzers. They are very expensive and they’ve come a long way

max334

pls ncm my 2 tacs from W Ger to Novgorod

OwenToo

@max334 And yet, they have run out of gas, so you have no use for them…

OwenToo

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 18

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

Game History

Round: 18

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 8 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya
              Russians take Libya from Italians
        1 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Kazakhstan
        7 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Kazakhstan
        2 artilleries moved from Samara to Kazakhstan
        2 artilleries moved from Gorky to Komi
        8 infantry moved from Gorky to Komi
        2 infantry moved from Samara to Urals
        4 fighters moved from Russia to Urals
        1 armour, 6 artilleries, 23 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Smolensk to Yaroslavl

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Komi
            Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 8 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 8 infantry in Komi, round 2 : 1/10 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Komi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Komi
            Russians win, taking Komi from Japanese with 2 artilleries and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Urals
            Russians attack with 4 fighters and 2 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                Russians roll dice for 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Urals, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Urals, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 artillery owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Urals
            Russians win, taking Urals from Japanese with 4 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
        Battle in Kazakhstan
            Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 8 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 8 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 2/10 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kazakhstan
            Russians win, taking Kazakhstan from Japanese with 2 artilleries and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
        Battle in Yaroslavl
            Russians attack with 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 23 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 23 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 9/31 hits, 7.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yaroslavl
            Russians win, taking Yaroslavl from Germans with 1 armour, 6 artilleries, 23 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Changing ownership of Ukraine from Italians to Russians
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Ukraine: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Rostov: 1 infantry
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 aaGun moved from Stalingrad to Kazakhstan
        1 aaGun moved from Samara to Komi
        4 fighters moved from Urals to Russia
        1 aaGun moved from Smolensk to Yaroslavl
        1 aaGun moved from Samara to Russia
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Kazakhstan
        1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Tambov to Kursk
        1 armour moved from Northern Caucasus to Kursk
        1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Kursk
        4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Gorky to Yaroslavl
        2 artilleries moved from Southern Caucasus to Northwest Persia
        4 infantry moved from Southern Caucasus to Northwest Persia
        2 artilleries moved from Southern Caucasus to Northern Caucasus
        3 infantry moved from Southern Caucasus to Northern Caucasus
        1 artillery moved from Russia to Yaroslavl
        6 infantry moved from Russia to Yaroslavl
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Yaroslavl
        1 aaGun moved from Stalingrad to Samara
        2 infantry moved from Samara to Russia
        5 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Tambov
        1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Kursk
        3 armour moved from Northern Caucasus to Samara

    Place Units - Russians
        8 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 2 tactical_bombers
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Novgorod: 2 tactical_bombers
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
            Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 101 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5
        Russians collect 31 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 31 PUs
        Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 34 PUs
        Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 36 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.00
Germans regular : -0.33
Russians regular : 0.33

Savegame

max334

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 18

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0

Game History

Round: 18

    Purchase Units - Japanese
        Japanese buy 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 5 infantry, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 

    Combat Move - Japanese
        1 fighter moved from 40 Sea Zone to Eastern India
        1 submarine moved from 24 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Wake Island to 26 Sea Zone
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 26 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 24 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Western Sinkiang to Urals
        1 bomber moved from Western Sinkiang to Urals
        1 bomber moved from Tsinghai to Eastern India
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Sinkiang to Urals

    Combat - Japanese
        Air Battle in Eastern India
            Japanese attacks with 2 units heading to Eastern India
            Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
        Strategic bombing raid in Eastern India
                UK_Pacific roll AA dice in Eastern India : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
            Bombing raid in Eastern India rolls: 5 and causes: 5 damage to unit: factory_major
            Bombing raid in Eastern India causes 5 damage total. 
        Battle in 26 Sea Zone
            Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers
            Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 26 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers in 26 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 26 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 26 Sea Zone
            Japanese win with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Urals
            Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Urals, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Urals, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Urals
            Japanese win, taking Urals from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Cleaning up after air battles

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
        1 infantry moved from Timguska to Evenkiyskiy
        1 infantry moved from Northern Sinkiang to Timguska
        1 bomber moved from Eastern India to Yunnan
        1 bomber moved from Urals to Tsinghai
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Urals to Northern Sinkiang
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Timguska to Yenisey
        1 artillery moved from Timguska to Yenisey
        2 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Yenisey
        1 infantry moved from Kansu to Northern Sinkiang
        1 infantry moved from Eastern Sinkiang to Northern Sinkiang
        1 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Kansu
        1 infantry moved from Shansi to Inner Mongolia
        1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shansi
        1 infantry moved from Hopei to Tsinghai
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hopei
        1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai
        1 infantry moved from Hunan to Szechwan
        1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
        1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma
        1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
        1 artillery moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
        1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
        1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ceylon to 40 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone
        2 armour and 2 infantry moved from Malaya to 38 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from Malaya to 38 Sea Zone
        2 armour, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 marine, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports moved from 38 Sea Zone to 77 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Wake Island
        2 tactical_bombers moved from 26 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone
        1 carrier moved from 7 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 transport moved from 24 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 marine moved from Marshall Islands to 33 Sea Zone
        1 artillery, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 marine moved from 34 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
        1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        2 carriers, 3 destroyers and 2 fighters moved from 24 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Eastern India to 77 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kansu
        2 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Eastern Sinkiang
        1 submarine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Japanese
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 17 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 34 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 34 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 35 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 7 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Japan
        1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Japan
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kwangtung
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Kiangsu
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 32 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 31 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 34 Sea Zone: 2 destroyers
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 35 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 34 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Japanese
        Japanese collect 79 PUs; end with 79 PUs
        Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 82 PUs
        Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 87 PUs
        Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 92 PUs
        Objective Japanese 7 Vital Forward Bases: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 97 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0.33
Japanese regular : 1.00
UK_Pacific AA : -0.17
Russians regular : -0.33

Savegame

OwenToo

I am going to call this game. I decided a couple of months ago that I am done with A&A for awhile. Too much time and brainpower expended. This is the last game I have active.

I can see that this will take another 10-15 rounds to finish. Every time someone makes a mistake, the game is backtracked to give another chance, which only extends the game. We have already been doing this for 4+ months, and I am unwilling to go another couple of months to see how it turns out.

You played a great game with Japan in the Pacific, and I keep getting bad dice there trying to pick off your forces, so it is a long, tedious and frustrating campaign. When I killed off our carrier forces there during our live battle, I should have been left with 4-6 aircraft and Japan with none, but the dice left us with 3-4 aircraft each and you saved your transports. It seems like every time I attack your blockers, I lose a sub, DD, or air unit in exchange. With a huge Japanese economic advantage, there is little the Allies can do to offset it.

I can see now that the only chance I had to turn the tide quickly was my 1-2 punch to Denmark and taking Germany, and the subsequent weakening of the Germans. Since that move was undone, I have no advantage there anymore. Your airpower in Europe cannot be matched without American help, and the Americans are needed in the Pacific at this point.

I think we both learned a lot with this game. I think PTV is a superior iteration of A&A. I like it better than BM3 or OOB rules. I believe you can compete well with the better league players if you want to give it a go.

max334

I was thinking along the same lines. The game was dragging on. It was your win. I guess i just don’t like to live with my mistakes, so something I have to work on.
And you’re absolutely right about brain power and time expended when you could be using it for something more productive. But I’ll probably keep one game going just because I like playing. Thanks for the game and time. Take care

PTV OwenToo vs max334 (Axis)

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 17

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 17

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 18

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 18

TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 18

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