Sure lets do it
Pejon_88 (X) vs. Wizmark (Allies+6), P2V first game
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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 artillery and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 4 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Northern Sinkiang to Kansu 1 infantry moved from Samara to Saratov Russians take Saratov from Germans 1 infantry moved from Tula to Tambov Russians take Tambov from Italians 2 infantry moved from Russia to Gorky 1 infantry moved from Russia to Yaroslavl 1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 2 fighters moved from Russia to Yaroslavl 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Gorky 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk 2 infantry moved from Tula to Bryansk Combat - Russians Battle in Kansu Russians attack with 4 artilleries and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 4 artilleries and 2 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kansu, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kansu Russians win, taking Kansu from Japanese with 4 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Gorky Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Gorky, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Gorky, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Gorky Russians win, taking Gorky from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Bryansk Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bryansk, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk Russians win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Battle in Smolensk Russians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk Russians win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Yaroslavl Russians attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yaroslavl Russians win, taking Yaroslavl from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Russia 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Smolensk to Russia 2 fighters moved from Yaroslavl to Russia 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Gorky to Russia 1 aaGun moved from Northern Sinkiang to Kansu 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Russia to Samara 1 infantry moved from Urals to Kazakhstan 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Urals to Northern Sinkiang 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Urals to Komi 2 aaGuns, 4 artilleries and 15 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe Place Units - Russians 3 infantry placed in Urals Russians undo move 1. 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Urals 5 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 22 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 24 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Japanese regular : -0.33 Germans regular : 2.00 Russians regular : -1.83
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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 14 infantry, 1 marine, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 fighter moved from Eastern India to 59 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern India to Java 1 marine moved from Ceylon to 40 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 40 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Java 1 infantry moved from Western India to Baluchistan Japanese take Baluchistan from UK_Pacific 1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Eastern Sinkiang Japanese take Eastern Sinkiang from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Chahar 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Shantung to Chahar 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol Japanese take Jehol from Chinese 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Davao to Dutch New Guinea 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea 1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia Japanese take Buryatia from Russians 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in 59 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 59 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber ANZAC defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser in Java, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber in Java, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Java, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Java Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry Battle in Dutch New Guinea Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry ANZAC defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Dutch New Guinea Japanese win, taking Dutch New Guinea from ANZAC with 1 artillery and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Battle in Chahar Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Chahar, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar Japanese win, taking Chahar from Chinese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in 22 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 22 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 22 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/4 hits, 2,33 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer in 22 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 22 Sea Zone Japanese win with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer Battle in 21 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 21 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 21 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 21 Sea Zone Japanese win with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 2 battleships, 10 carriers, 2 cruisers, 7 destroyers, 5 infantry, 9 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 5 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Buryatia 1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Siberia 1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Northern Manchuria 1 mech_infantry moved from Honan to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Honan 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Tsinghai 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Hopei 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow 1 armour moved from Eastern India to Yunnan 8 artilleries and 25 infantry moved from Eastern India to Central India 1 submarine moved from 47 Sea Zone to 64 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 132 Sea Zone to 58 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 59 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan 1 bomber moved from Dutch New Guinea to French Indo China 2 fighters moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 22 Sea Zone to Japan 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 21 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Eastern India 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Chahar to Shantung 1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 2 submarines moved from 132 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Hunan Place Units - Japanese 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Shantung 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China 3 infantry placed in Eastern India 3 infantry placed in Malaya 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 1 marine and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Japan 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 submarine placed in 7 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 13 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 7 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,3,2,5,6,5,6,4,2,2,1,2,1,5,2,2,1,2,5,5,6,1,6,5,5,2,2,4,5,3,1,2,1,5,5,5,1,3,1,4,5,1,3,1,2,6,4,6,3,4,1,5,1,5,5,5,5,1,6,4,2,5,6,3,1,6,5,6 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 20 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4,6,2 Japanese collect 60 PUs (13 lost to blockades); end with 60 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 6 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 20 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -0,67 Americans regular : -0,33 Japanese regular : 3,33 ANZAC regular : 1,67
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@pejon_88 Ouch, that was a huge Convoy.
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TripleA Move Summary: Americans round 13
TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Hokkaido to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Guam 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 107 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
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TripleA Turn Summary: Americans round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Hokkaido to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Guam 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 107 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Guam Battle in 107 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Germans defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 107 Sea Zone Americans win, taking Guam from Japanese with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Americans 1 cruiser moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 107 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 107 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 aaGun and 3 artilleries moved from Morocco to 94 Sea Zone 8 infantry moved from Morocco to 94 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries, 8 infantry and 6 transports moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 107 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 marine, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 9 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 13 fighters, 9 submarines and 5 tactical_bombers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 4 infantry, 3 submarines and 3 transports moved from 27 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from 24 Sea Zone to Wake Island 1 aaGun moved from 24 Sea Zone to Wake Island 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 24 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 transport moved from 13 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 harbour placed in Wake Island 3 fighters placed in Southern Persia 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 7 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,1,3,6,5,1,6,1,2,4,4,2,6,2,1,3,6,1,4,5,4,5,6,2,4,1,4,5,1,1,4,4,4,2,6,6,4,2,2,2,1,3,2,3,4,4,3,3,4,4,3,2,3,6,5 Americans collect 57 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 57 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 87 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.67 Germans regular : 0.67
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TripleA Move Summary: Chinese round 13
TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsu Chinese take Kiangsu from Japanese 2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
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TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsu Chinese take Kiangsu from Japanese 2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei Combat - Chinese Battle in Hopei Chinese attack with 2 artilleries and 11 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 11 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 5/13 hits, 2.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 2 artilleries and 10 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Northern Sinkiang to Kansu Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Hopei Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUs
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 2.17 Japanese regular : 0.67
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TripleA Move Summary: British round 13
TripleA Move Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - British British buy 2 artilleries, 4 infantry, 2 marines and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 2 battleships moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Holland Belgium 2 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to Southern Caucasus 1 bomber moved from Egypt to Southern Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Baluchistan 3 fighters moved from Iraq to Baluchistan 6 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Northwest Persia to Baluchistan
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Hokkaido to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Guam 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 93 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 94 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 107 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Guam Battle in 107 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Germans defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 107 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 107 Sea Zone Americans win, taking Guam from Japanese with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Americans 1 cruiser moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 107 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 107 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 aaGun and 3 artilleries moved from Morocco to 94 Sea Zone 8 infantry moved from Morocco to 94 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 3 artilleries, 8 infantry and 6 transports moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 3 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 107 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 marine, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 9 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 13 fighters, 9 submarines and 5 tactical_bombers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 4 infantry, 3 submarines and 3 transports moved from 27 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from 24 Sea Zone to Wake Island 1 aaGun moved from 24 Sea Zone to Wake Island 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 24 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Western United States to 11 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 transport moved from 13 Sea Zone to 11 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 1 harbour placed in Wake Island 3 fighters placed in Southern Persia 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 7 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,1,3,6,5,1,6,1,2,4,4,2,6,2,1,3,6,1,4,5,4,5,6,2,4,1,4,5,1,1,4,4,4,2,6,6,4,2,2,2,1,3,2,3,4,4,3,3,4,4,3,2,3,6,5 Americans collect 57 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 57 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 87 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsu Chinese take Kiangsu from Japanese 2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei Combat - Chinese Battle in Hopei Chinese attack with 2 artilleries and 11 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 11 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 5/13 hits, 2.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 2 artilleries and 10 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Northern Sinkiang to Kansu Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Hopei Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 2 artilleries, 4 infantry, 2 marines and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 2 battleships moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to Holland Belgium 2 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to Southern Caucasus 1 bomber moved from Egypt to Southern Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Baluchistan 3 fighters moved from Iraq to Baluchistan 6 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Northwest Persia to Baluchistan Combat - British Air Battle in Southern Caucasus British attacks with 3 units heading to Southern Caucasus Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets Strategic bombing raid in Southern Caucasus Germans roll AA dice in Southern Caucasus : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 bomber killed by AA Bombing raid in Southern Caucasus causes 0 damage total. Battle in Holland Belgium British attack with 4 fighters and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 2 battleships in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Holland Belgium British win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 4 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Baluchistan British attack with 9 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 9 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Baluchistan, round 2 : 6/13 hits, 6.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Baluchistan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Baluchistan British win, taking Baluchistan from Japanese with 9 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Cleaning up after air battles Non Combat Move - British 9 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Baluchistan to Northwest Persia 2 fighters moved from Southern Caucasus to Northwest Persia 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northeast Persia to Northwest Persia 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 73 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 94 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 4 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 4 transports moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 4 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 2 fighters moved from Egypt to Gibraltar 2 aaGuns, 10 artilleries and 15 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Northwest Persia Place Units - British 1 submarine placed in 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 marines placed in United Kingdom 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Iraq 2 infantry placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British British collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 44 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 47 PUs Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : 2.17 Americans regular : 0.67 Japanese regular : 0.33 Germans AA : 0.83 Germans regular : 0.33 British regular : -1.00
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@pejon_88 yep…along with dragging your fleet back was a nice bonus for allies…now nicely ahead in the IPC race as well!
Getting exciting and tense now…even though G has a huge army and nice income I cant see a euro axis victory atm…will J be able to pull off the final VC??? -
@pejon_88 just noticed the engine has somehow landed the us planes in gib instead of on the cv in 94…can you please edit them to where they should be…thanks
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@wizmark Yes, it feels like a close, fun game.
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@wizmark Yup, sure!
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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 armour moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus 1 armour moved from Rostov to Southern Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy Non Combat Move - Italians 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Austria to Western Germany 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany Place Units - Italians 3 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 10 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3,1,1,2,3,6,3,4,3 Italians collect 2 PUs (10 lost to blockades); end with 2 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 13
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 13 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 fighter and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Queensland to 46 Sea Zone Combat - ANZAC Battle in 46 Sea Zone ANZAC attack with 1 fighter Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 46 Sea Zone ANZAC win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 fighter moved from 46 Sea Zone to Northern Australia 1 cruiser and 3 submarines moved from 7 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Queensland to Northern Australia 1 infantry moved from Queensland to Northern Australia 1 aaGun moved from Queensland to Northern Australia Place Units - ANZAC 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Queensland Turn Complete - ANZAC Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 64 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4 ANZAC collect 8 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 8 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 11 PUs Combat Move - French Turn Complete - French
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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 14
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 14 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 2 fighters, 8 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 2 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 fighter moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium 2 infantry moved from Vologda to Gorky 2 infantry moved from Vologda to Yaroslavl 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Vologda to Gorky 1 bomber moved from Southern Caucasus to Gorky 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Yaroslavl 2 bombers moved from Eastern Poland to Yaroslavl 1 infantry moved from Kursk to Tula Germans take Tula from Russians 1 infantry moved from Kursk to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Kazakhstan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Caucasus to Kazakhstan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Kazakhstan 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Rostov to Tambov
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@wizmark scrambles in Holland, Gorky or Yaroslvl?
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@pejon_88 very tempting in yaro…but no scrambles thanks
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 14
TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory, version: 5.1.0
Game History
Round: 14 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 2 fighters, 8 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium 2 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 fighter moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium 2 infantry moved from Vologda to Gorky 2 infantry moved from Vologda to Yaroslavl 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Vologda to Gorky 1 bomber moved from Southern Caucasus to Gorky 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Yaroslavl 2 bombers moved from Eastern Poland to Yaroslavl 1 infantry moved from Kursk to Tula Germans take Tula from Russians 1 infantry moved from Kursk to Tambov 1 infantry moved from Stalingrad to Kazakhstan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Caucasus to Kazakhstan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Kazakhstan 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Rostov to Tambov Combat - Germans Battle in Kazakhstan Germans attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Kazakhstan Germans win with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Tambov Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Tambov, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Tambov Germans win, taking Tambov from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Yaroslavl Germans attack with 3 bombers and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 bombers and 2 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Yaroslavl, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yaroslavl Germans win, taking Yaroslavl from Russians with 3 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Gorky Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Gorky, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Gorky, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Gorky Germans win, taking Gorky from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Holland Belgium Germans attack with 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 2,83 expected hits British roll dice for 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Holland Belgium Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 transport moved from 118 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Germany to 117 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Finland 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kazakhstan to Southern Caucasus 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Caucasus to Southern Caucasus 3 armour moved from Rostov to Southern Caucasus 2 infantry moved from Rostov to Northern Caucasus 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Southern Caucasus 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Tambov to Southern Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Kursk to Bryansk 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Rostov 3 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Rostov 8 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Smolensk 11 artilleries and 28 infantry moved from Novgorod to Smolensk 1 armour moved from Vologda to Smolensk 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Vologda to Novgorod 5 infantry moved from Leningrad to Novgorod 8 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus 8 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine 3 bombers moved from Yaroslavl to Leningrad 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Gorky to Leningrad 8 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland 1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 115 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 8 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 2 carriers, 2 fighters and 1 submarine placed in 115 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Leningrad 3 infantry placed in Southern Caucasus 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in France Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,4,1,3,4,3,1,2,4,1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 95 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,3,4 Germans collect 63 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 63 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 83 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Western Germany: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to 115 Sea Zone: 1 fighter EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : 0,67 Germans regular : -1,00 British regular : -0,67
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@pejon_88 Miscalculated one German plane’s move points. Edited an Italian plane to the fleet instead since they played just before. Hope you are ok with that kind of change?