axis-dominion vs ksmckay (allies+18) bm3

  • '19

    2.2.20868 is what i have been using. But i had issues with 2.1. something too.


  • I noticed it has to do with an attacking sub. when I do the same battle without the attacking sub, it works.

  • '19

    yep, i have seen 3 different issues with sub rules this version, and the battle calc cant handle subs in certain circumstances. Though sometimes when I restart it works, sometimes it doesnt.


  • should we attempt to recreate the game with the older known version? maybe it’ll be some upfront work but save us a lot of misery in a longer game, which we usually have?

  • '19

    yeah i dont see any other option. No way we can continue like this. Pacific will be a nightmare.

    From Panther (about something else, but still applies)

    Loading the savegame in the latest pre-release shows the issues again, as problems in games started in the past cannot be resolved by updating the TripleA client, as updating the client does not change the game information stored in savegame files. In other words: As long as nobody starts new games with up-to-date clients and maps, the problems, saved in savegame-files, will be carried over and continue.

  • '19

    we can mess with it later. My preference would be 1.9 but if you have a version of 2 that you like thats fine. But just seems like 2 is a buggy mess right now.


  • @ksmckay said in axis-dominion vs ksmckay (allies+18) bm3:

    we can mess with it later. My preference would be 1.9 but if you have a version of 2 that you like thats fine. But just seems like 2 is a buggy mess right now.

    yah at this point, I think we should just settle with using 1.9. how about we each redo our own turns but edit to match the actual results? I will start by doing G, then you can do R, etc. and I will download and install 1.9.0.0.13066.

    does that seem like a good approach? or is there a better one?

  • '19

    I would think we could just match the map. My first thought was to auto cycle (set everything but Anzac to do nothing) through the turns to catch up to Anz 3 and then just edit things. But perhaps your way would be easier.

  • '19

    but that does screw the history


  • @ksmckay said in axis-dominion vs ksmckay (allies+18) bm3:

    but that does screw the history

    Yah but not much choice on that. Something has to give, let it be the history.

    I’ll get G done now.

  • '19

    ok so you dont want to try and just do a bulk edit?


  • @ksmckay said in axis-dominion vs ksmckay (allies+18) bm3:

    ok so you dont want to try and just do a bulk edit?

    no I fear we will miss something. this way we can double check each other’s turn edits, on each turn.

  • '19

    or do you mean youll bulk edit germany and then we can go from there.

    hrmm maybe. I wont be able to get to this till this evening though.

  • '19

    or we could shelve the game and restart everything… but maybe this wont be that bad.


  • no I meant I will just replay my G1, then edit any battles. you then replay your R1, edit, I J1 replay, edit, etc. I think it’ll go pretty quickly since we’re not that far into the game. also, I can’t seem to find the bm4 in this 1.9 version. you ok if we just go bm3 after all?

  • '19

    ok we can do that


  • Testing Forum poster

    Test summary from TripleA, engine version: 1.9, time: 10:54:51 AM
    Savegame


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 1

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 1
    
        Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 armour, 1 destroyer and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 109 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 armour moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to France
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            2 armour moved from Holland Belgium to France
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            2 artilleries moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            3 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            3 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
    
        Combat - Germans
            Battle in 106 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 106 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 106 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in 106 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 106 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in France
                Germans attack with 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                    AA fire in France : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in France, round 2 : 7/18 hits, 6.17 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry in France, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 4.33 expected hits
                    1 aaGun owned by the French, 4 infantry owned by the Germans and 6 infantry owned by the French lost in France
                    Germans roll dice for 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in France, round 3 : 8/14 hits, 5.50 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 fighter in France, round 3 : 4/5 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the French, 1 fighter owned by the French, 1 artillery owned by the British, 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the British and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in France
                Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking France from French with 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 27
                Casualties for Germans: 6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
            Battle in 109 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 2 submarines in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 transport owned by the British lost in 109 Sea Zone
                Germans win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                    French roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the French, 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the French lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 armour and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Germans attack with 2 artilleries and 7 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries and 7 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/9 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 5 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yugoslavia
                2 artilleries owned by the Germans and 6 infantry owned by the Germans retreated to Romania
                Neutral_Allies win with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 1 infantry
            Battle in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                    British roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                    1 destroyer owned by the British, 1 cruiser owned by the British and 1 battleship owned by the British lost in 111 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                    1 submarine owned by the British lost in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 46
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
            Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French
            triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French
    
        Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 109 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 armour moved from Romania to Bulgaria
                  Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
            1 armour moved from Poland to Romania
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Southern Italy
            3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
            3 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                  Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
            1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Denmark to 113 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany
            1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
    
        Place Units - Germans
            1 destroyer placed in 113 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 4 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_Allies from Yugoslavia: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 111 Sea Zone: 1 battleship and 1 submarine
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 109 Sea Zone: 2 submarines
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 106 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 106 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 109 Sea Zone: 2 submarines
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 111 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Normandy Bordeaux: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from France: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to France: 2 mech_infantrys
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    
        Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 39 PUs; end with 58 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Germans : 5.33
    British : -0.50
    AA fire in France : : -0.17
    French : 2.67
    Neutral_Allies : -0.67
    

    Savegame


  • alright G1 redo done. you can double check it before moving onto R1 redo. no rush btw, if you’re at work etc. don’t worry about when you get to this.


  • I just put out a warning to the general forum so others don’t hate their lives running into this too.

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