L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3


  • Doing J now.


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 15

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 15
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
                  Japanese take Amur from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Novosibirsk
            1 bomber moved from Kweichow to Suiyuyan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Suiyuyan
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Kweichow to Novosibirsk
            1 submarine moved from 47 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 45 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Dutch New Guinea to 55 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 submarine
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Suiyuyan
                Japanese win, taking Suiyuyan from Chinese with 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Novosibirsk
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk
                Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 55 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 carrier and 2 destroyers; ANZAC defend with 2 fighters
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese : -0,33
    Russians : 0,67
    Japanese : 1,33
    

    Savegame


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 15

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 15
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
                  Japanese take Amur from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Novosibirsk
            1 bomber moved from Kweichow to Suiyuyan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Suiyuyan
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Kweichow to Novosibirsk
            1 submarine moved from 47 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 45 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Dutch New Guinea to 55 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 submarine
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Suiyuyan
                Japanese win, taking Suiyuyan from Chinese with 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Novosibirsk
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk
                Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 55 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 carrier and 2 destroyers; ANZAC defend with 2 fighters
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Americans
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Chinese : -0,33
    Russians : 0,67
    Japanese : 2,33
    

    Savegame


  • 5 hits in z55. You can save one unit. I presume it’s a fig, but you’ll have to decide before I roll the defence.


  • STUPID dices continue killing me there


  • u had +12 for that battle

    yes i ll keep the fig


  • No figs for ANZAC anymore.


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 15

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 15
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
                  Japanese take Amur from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Novosibirsk
            1 bomber moved from Kweichow to Suiyuyan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Suiyuyan
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Kweichow to Novosibirsk
            1 submarine moved from 47 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 45 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Dutch New Guinea to 55 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 submarine
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Suiyuyan
                Japanese win, taking Suiyuyan from Chinese with 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Novosibirsk
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk
                Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 55 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 carrier and 2 destroyers; ANZAC defend with 2 fighters
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Americans
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 1 fighter owned by the ANZAC, 2 destroyers owned by the Americans, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese, 1 carrier owned by the Americans and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 55 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in 55 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the ANZAC lost in 55 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 fighters
                Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier and 2 destroyers
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 fighters moved from 55 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries moved from Malaya to Shan State
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 45 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Sikang to Tsinghai
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
            1 bomber moved from Novosibirsk to Kweichow
            1 bomber moved from Suiyuyan to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Sakha
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            2 submarines moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
            3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 aaGun moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 aaGun moved from Burma to Shan State
            6 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
            9 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 37 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in Kiangsu
            1 armour and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
            1 fighter placed in Japan
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 64 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 67 PUs
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans : 1,00
    Chinese : -0,33
    Russians : 0,67
    Japanese : 2,17
    

    Savegame


  • You had good defence atleast.

    All clear. Go yankees, go!


  • oh, my fig went with a style. then he is a hero


  • @Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

    oh, my fig went with a style. then he is a hero

    He is.

    Despite the tiny japanese fleet, it’s gigantic in comparison to the competition. :)


  • Mainly because of the air.


  • Wait, I don’t want to go into Amur. It should activate the Mongolian pact. I’ll edit that.


  • @trulpenplay said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

    arrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 37 Sea Zone
    1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone
    3 infantry placed in Kiangsu
    1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Fre

    i ve already started playing move i want load new map i l ledit it


  • TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 15

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 15
    
        Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 
    
        Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
                  Japanese take Amur from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Novosibirsk
            1 bomber moved from Kweichow to Suiyuyan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Suiyuyan
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Kweichow to Novosibirsk
            1 submarine moved from 47 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 45 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Dutch New Guinea to 55 Sea Zone
    
        Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 submarine
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Suiyuyan
                Japanese win, taking Suiyuyan from Chinese with 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Novosibirsk
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novosibirsk
                Japanese win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 55 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 carrier and 2 destroyers; ANZAC defend with 2 fighters
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Americans
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 2,33 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 1 fighter owned by the ANZAC, 2 destroyers owned by the Americans, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese, 1 carrier owned by the Americans and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 55 Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2,17 expected hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 fighter in 55 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the ANZAC lost in 55 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 fighters
                Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier and 2 destroyers
    
        Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 fighters moved from 55 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries moved from Malaya to Shan State
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 45 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Sikang to Tsinghai
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Sikang
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
            1 bomber moved from Novosibirsk to Kweichow
            1 bomber moved from Suiyuyan to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Sakha
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            2 submarines moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
            3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 aaGun moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 aaGun moved from Burma to Shan State
            6 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
            9 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
    
        Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 37 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in Kiangsu
            1 armour and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
            1 fighter placed in Japan
    
        Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 64 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Amur: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Sakha: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Amur from Japanese to Russians
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Japanese from 67 to 66
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Americans : 1,00
    Chinese : -0,33
    Russians : 0,67
    Japanese : 2,17
    

    Savegame


  • @trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

    @Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

    oh, my fig went with a style. then he is a hero

    He is.

    Despite the tiny japanese fleet, it’s gigantic in comparison to the competition. :)

    all japanese ships air combined are in number inferior to the allies in the pacific


  • @trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

    Wait, I don’t want to go into Amur. It should activate the Mongolian pact. I’ll edit that.

    where to u want to put that dude


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 15

    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.4

    Game History

    Round: 15
    
        Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 6 infantry, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
    
        Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Amur: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Amur from Japanese to Russians
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Sakha: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Japanese from 67 to 66
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 31 Sea Zone to Wake Island
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
    

    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

    Savegame


  • @Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

    @trulpen said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

    Wait, I don’t want to go into Amur. It should activate the Mongolian pact. I’ll edit that.

    where to u want to put that dude

    I Sakha.


  • @Amon-Sul said in L20 #5 trulpen (X) vs Amon-Sul (A+19) BM3:

    all japanese ships air combined are in number inferior to the allies in the pacific

    Might be, but J is stronger on the attack.

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