Amon-Sul (Allies) vs Simon33 (Axis) BM3 No IJ/Ok

no wait i thought my subs will stay in sz 6 i did not wanted to retreat with them just with air

so i ll have to fight manually then ?

i ll roll the battle using in game dice in triple a

2 bombers

vs

2 figs

or could i retreat just with air and just submberge the subs?

or they can not submerge until i have bombers there, and can not submerge if i retreat with boms?

@simon33 said in Amon-Sul (Allies) vs Simon33 (Axis) BM3 No IJ/Ok:

@Amon-Sul said in Amon-Sul (Allies) vs Simon33 (Axis) BM3 No IJ/Ok:

no wait i thought my subs will stay in sz 6 i did not wanted to retreat with them just with air

so i ll have to fight manually then ?

Now I understand.

If you stay for another round, you can then submerge and the subs won’t be a part of the retreat. But you need to roll one more round. 2 on 2.

Easiest to just use game dice.

so i do not need to fight till the end, but just one more round?

in triple a there is this roll dice possibility and u get dice on mail

i ve scored a hit, u scored 2

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Americans round 8

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 8

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Shantung
        1 bomber moved from Manchuria to Shantung
        1 submarine moved from 94 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Algeria to Tunisia
              Americans take Tunisia from Italians
        1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
              Americans take 19 Sea Zone from Japanese
        1 battleship, 3 carriers and 3 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Western United States to 6 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat - Americans
        Japanese scrambles 3 units out of Japan to defend against the attack in 6 Sea Zone
        Battle in Guam
        Battle in 6 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 2 bombers and 4 submarines
            Japanese defend with 1 destroyer and 3 fighters
                Americans roll dice for 4 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 2 submarines owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
            2 submarines owned by the Americans retreated to 16 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Guam from Japanese with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 2 submarines
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
        Battle in 99 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 2 submarines
            Italians defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
            Americans win, taking 99 Sea Zone from Italians with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Shantung
            Americans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            Japanese defend with 5 fighters and 4 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in Shantung, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 5 fighters and 4 infantry in Shantung, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 4.67 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Japanese, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Americans and 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Shantung
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber in Shantung, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 5 fighters and 1 infantry in Shantung, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Shantung
            Japanese win with 5 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -45
            Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            Casualties for Japanese: 3 infantry
        Moving scrambled unit from 6 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Japan
        Moving scrambled unit from 6 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Japan

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 6 Sea Zone: 2 bombers
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Japan: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        EDIT: 2 submarines moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians : 0.67
Americans : 0.00
Japanese : -2.67

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Chinese round 8

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 8

    Combat Move - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Guerilla Hopei: Chinese has 1 infantry placed in Hopei

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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totally idiotic and retarted dice in shantung

i had 86 % and 4-5 units left on average

the dice could spoil this game i dont like it

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: British round 8

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 8

    Politics - British

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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@simon33 said in Amon-Sul (Allies) vs Simon33 (Axis) BM3 No IJ/Ok:

@Amon-Sul said in Amon-Sul (Allies) vs Simon33 (Axis) BM3 No IJ/Ok:

Germany 80 PUs, Japan 37, ANZAC and China 19 both, so 38 together.

Seems that your idea for stacking up Yunnan was pretty successful.

we shall see, looking good for now there, but if Germany takes 8 VC its all in vain

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 8

    Combat Move - Americans
        1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
        1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam
        2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Shantung
        1 bomber moved from Manchuria to Shantung
        1 submarine moved from 94 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
        1 artillery moved from Algeria to Tunisia
              Americans take Tunisia from Italians
        1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
              Americans take 19 Sea Zone from Japanese
        1 battleship, 3 carriers and 3 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
        2 bombers moved from Western United States to 6 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat - Americans
        Japanese scrambles 3 units out of Japan to defend against the attack in 6 Sea Zone
        Battle in Guam
        Battle in 6 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 2 bombers and 4 submarines
            Japanese defend with 1 destroyer and 3 fighters
                Americans roll dice for 4 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Americans roll dice for 2 bombers in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 2 submarines owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
            2 submarines owned by the Americans retreated to 16 Sea Zone
            Japanese win, taking Guam from Japanese with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Americans: 2 submarines
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
        Battle in 99 Sea Zone
            Americans attack with 2 submarines
            Italians defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone
            Americans win, taking 99 Sea Zone from Italians with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
            Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer
        Battle in Shantung
            Americans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            Japanese defend with 5 fighters and 4 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in Shantung, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 3.00 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 5 fighters and 4 infantry in Shantung, round 2 : 4/9 hits, 4.67 expected hits
                3 infantry owned by the Japanese, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Americans and 2 fighters owned by the Americans lost in Shantung
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber in Shantung, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 5 fighters and 1 infantry in Shantung, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Shantung
            Japanese win with 5 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -45
            Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
            Casualties for Japanese: 3 infantry
        Moving scrambled unit from 6 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Japan
        Moving scrambled unit from 6 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Japan

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 6 Sea Zone: 2 bombers
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Japan: 1 fighter
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        EDIT: 2 submarines moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
        1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 94 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 4 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 4 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
        2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
        3 transports moved from 102 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
        1 submarine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to Normandy Bordeaux

    Place Units - Americans
        1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
        1 factory_minor placed in Korea
        1 bomber placed in Western United States
        4 artilleries and 4 infantry placed in Central United States
        1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Normandy Bordeaux
        1 bomber placed in Western United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 60 PUs; end with 60 PUs
        Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
        Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 75 PUs
        Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs
        Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 85 PUs
        Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 90 PUs
        Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 95 PUs

    Combat Move - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Guerilla Hopei: Chinese has 1 infantry placed in Hopei
        1 artillery, 1 fighter and 10 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shantung

    Purchase Units - Chinese
        Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
        Chinese buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 

    Combat - Chinese
        Chinese creates battle in territory Hopei
        Battle in Shantung
            Chinese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 10 infantry
            Japanese defend with 5 fighters and 1 infantry
                Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 10 infantry in Shantung, round 2 : 2/12 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 5 fighters and 1 infantry in Shantung, round 2 : 5/6 hits, 3.67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 5 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shantung
                Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Shantung, round 3 : 0/7 hits, 1.83 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters in Shantung, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shantung
                Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Shantung, round 4 : 1/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Japanese roll dice for 4 fighters in Shantung, round 4 : 4/4 hits, 2.67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 3 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Shantung
             retreated to Shantung
            Japanese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -11
            Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery and 10 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 fighters and 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
        1 fighter moved from Shantung to Yunnan

    Place Units - Chinese
        1 infantry placed in Jehol
        5 infantry placed in Yunnan

    Turn Complete - Chinese
        Chinese collect 20 PUs; end with 21 PUs

    Combat Move - British
        1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
        3 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
        1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Alexandria
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Alexandria
        1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Alexandria

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 1 artillery, 4 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific buy 2 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat - British
        Battle in Holland Belgium
            British attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Italians defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Holland Belgium
            British win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Alexandria
            British attack with 3 fighters, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 2 fighters; Italians defend with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
                British roll dice for 3 fighters, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Alexandria, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 : 2/8 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                2 mech_infantrys owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Alexandria
            2 mech_infantrys owned by the British retreated to Egypt
            Italians win with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -5
            Casualties for British: 2 mech_infantrys
            Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Southern France
            British attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Southern France, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Southern France
            British win, taking Southern France from Germans with 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
            Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        3 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
        1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
        2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
        3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Alexandria to Egypt
        2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux
        1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from India to Yunnan
        3 fighters moved from Southern France to Tunisia

    Place Units - British
        1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt
        3 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa
        2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in United Kingdom
        2 submarines placed in 80 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs
        Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 44 PUs
        Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 47 PUs

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
        2 mech_infantrys placed in India
        1 submarine placed in 39 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
        UK_Pacific collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs
        Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 12 PUs
        Units Change Ownership
            Some Units in India change ownership: 2 mech_infantrys
            Some Units in 39 Sea Zone change ownership: 1 submarine

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : -1.00
Italians : -0.83
British : 0.67
Americans : 0.00
Chinese : -3.00
Japanese : -0.67

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Italy on the move…

Cheers

interesting buy

anzac coming

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.4

Game History

Round: 8

    Combat Move - ANZAC
        2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
        2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
        2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
        ANZAC buy 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat - ANZAC
        Battle in Java

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
        1 submarine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to Queensland
        2 submarines moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
        1 fighter moved from Yunnan to India

    Place Units - ANZAC
        2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
        ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 17 PUs
        Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 20 PUs

    Combat Move - French
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        EDIT: 2 infantry moved from Queensland to New South Wales
        EDIT: 1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone

    Non Combat Move - French

    Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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