Battle of the Terror Drome: Karl7 Axis+10 vs JuanSpain! BM3, Part 1 of 2

@JuanSpain:

@Karl7:

ok, I was still thinking, so haven’t decided what to do yet.  Go ahead.

Thx, it is more or less the same I think, a destroyer sacrificed for a very little difference better defense on land.

The game will be on Marti hands I think if you go for London.

wow, very technical situation here.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Kenya to Italian Somaliland
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
            2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 armour moved from Romania to Greece

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 4 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 cruiser in Greece, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 2.83 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    4 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece
                Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
            Battle in Gibraltar
                Italians attack with 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 airfield and 1 harbour; French defend with 1 fighter
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Gibraltar, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 fighter in Gibraltar, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 fighter owned by the French and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Gibraltar
                Italians win, taking Gibraltar from British with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for French: 1 fighter
            Battle in Egypt
                Italians attack with 2 armour, 3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                British defend with 1 harbour; ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 3 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Egypt, round 2 : 0/11 hits, 3.50 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 2 infantry in Egypt, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Egypt
                    Italians roll dice for 2 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Egypt, round 3 : 4/9 hits, 3.17 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 2 infantry in Egypt, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Egypt
                Italians win, taking Egypt from British with 2 armour, 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France Fleet Scuddle: has removed 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer owned by Neutral_Axis in 93 Sea Zone
            Trigger Italy Occupies Algeria Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Algeria
            Trigger Italy Occupies Morocco Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Morocco
            Trigger Italy Syria France Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Syria
            Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France Army Disband: has removed 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in Southern France
            Trigger Italy Occupies French West Africa Army Disband: has removed 1 infantry owned by Neutral_Axis in French West Africa
            Trigger Italy Occupies Southern France Facilities: Italians has 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour placed in Southern France
            1 destroyer moved from 94 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            1 bomber moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
                  Italians take Tunisia from Neutral_Axis
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
                  Italians take Southern France from Neutral_Axis
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary
            2 aaGuns moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 19 PUs; end with 20 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 30 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians : -1.17
    British : 1.00
    Neutral_Allies : -1.33

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TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 3

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer and 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            7 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            6 armour and 1 marine moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            6 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 9 infantry, 1 marine, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 9 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            3 artilleries, 9 infantry and 1 marine moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to United Kingdom
            1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone

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orders?

whoops I see I forgot to move my tanks onto London.

I don’t see how that would affect your scramble.

WOW, the battle calc is all over the place on this one, ranging from 62 to 78%!    Dicey!

Not sure you left me much choice on this one with you moving to Gibraltar.

Well, if the dice betray me then it will be a short game.

:lol:

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 3

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer and 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            7 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            6 armour and 1 marine moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            6 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 9 infantry, 1 marine, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 9 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            3 artilleries, 9 infantry and 1 marine moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to United Kingdom
            1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            6 armour moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 submarines and 9 transports
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                    Germans roll dice for 4 submarines in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 transport owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 submarines and 9 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in United Kingdom
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 5 fighters, 9 infantry, 1 marine and 4 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 6 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 5 fighters, 1 harbour, 13 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; French defend with 2 infantry
                    AA fire in United Kingdom : 3/10 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                    3 fighters owned by the Germans lost in United Kingdom
                    Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 9 infantry, 1 marine and 4 tactical_bombers in United Kingdom, round 2 : 10/26 hits, 10.67 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 6 aaGuns, 5 fighters, 15 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in United Kingdom, round 2 : 11/22 hits, 9.17 expected hits
                    6 aaGuns owned by the British, 2 artilleries owned by the Germans, 9 infantry owned by the Germans, 2 infantry owned by the French and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in United Kingdom
                    Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 marine and 4 tactical_bombers in United Kingdom, round 3 : 9/15 hits, 8.00 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 5 fighters, 11 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in United Kingdom, round 3 : 11/18 hits, 7.83 expected hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Germans, 2 fighters owned by the Germans, 5 armour owned by the Germans, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans, 9 infantry owned by the British and 1 marine owned by the Germans lost in United Kingdom
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 tactical_bombers in United Kingdom, round 4 : 4/4 hits, 2.33 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 5 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in United Kingdom, round 4 : 6/9 hits, 4.83 expected hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the British, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 1 bomber owned by the Germans, 1 armour owned by the Germans, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in United Kingdom
                British win with 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -96
                Casualties for Germans: 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 bomber, 5 fighters, 9 infantry, 1 marine and 4 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for British: 6 aaGuns, 13 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for French: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber could not land in 110 Sea Zone and was removed

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans : 2.67
    British : 5.83
    AA fire in United Kingdom : : 1.33

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Yup, got diced.

:-P

GAME OVER!

ahahahaha

I guess I should asked that we play with 2 LL rerolls or something to prevent this.  :-P

I’ll post.

@JuanSpain:

I don’t like winning like this even though dice also play.

I offer you something:

Redo since G2 with a NO Sea Lion (in G2 or G3) strategy.

restart g2?  hmm, that would be hard because Italy’s first move was premised on Sealion.  So if you want to start there, that would unwind the move.

Otherwise, we could just give me a Low Luck reroll on Sealion and you then you’d get one too you could use in the future.

I am up for which ever.

@JuanSpain:

Redo since ita 1 then. No Sea Lion until G4 at least please. LL in that battle is definitive I think.

ok, will reset here in a bit

ok

sorry, busy this weekend.  normal game play will resume tomorrow.

Figuring out Italy w/no sealion potential will be hard, so I will need some time

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Crete
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Greece
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
                  Italians take Alexandria from British
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                  Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Crete
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Greece, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 0/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 2 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Greece
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Greece, round 4 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 2 infantry in Greece, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Greece
                Italians win, taking Crete from Neutral_Allies, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 fighters in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            2 aaGuns moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 bomber moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            1 artillery moved from Libya to Tobruk

Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5
            Italians collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians : -3.83
    British : 0.67
    Neutral_Allies : -0.67

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Crete
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Greece
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
                  Italians take Alexandria from British
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                  Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Crete
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Greece, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 4 infantry in Greece, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies lost in Greece
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 0/6 hits, 2.17 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 2 infantry in Greece, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Greece
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Greece, round 4 : 2/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits
                    Neutral_Allies roll dice for 2 infantry in Greece, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Neutral_Allies and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Greece
                Italians win, taking Crete from Neutral_Allies, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 fighters in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            2 aaGuns moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 bomber moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            1 artillery moved from Libya to Tobruk

Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5
            Italians collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Crete: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Crete from Italians to Neutral_Allies
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Cyprus from British to Italians
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Cyprus: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians : -3.83
    British : 0.67
    Neutral_Allies : -0.67

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Ok, there it is.

Not sure if this is a good counter to your Gib move or not.

The edit was because I dragging to inf to the wrong island.  It was a walk in combat, so I hope the change is ok.