BM 3.0 DeadTom (axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies)


  • hm, but a lone sub can not prevent enemy landing

    please clarify by some rule Faq Ur position


  • But it wasn’t alone. It had the cruiser. I can chose not to submerge the sub after the cruiser dies, can’t I?


  • but the cruiser died

    so it means my transports are dead?


  • The rulebook says that combat ends when all units that can attack or retreat on one or both sides have been destroyed or the attacker retreats. There is also a provision for ending the battle if neither side can fire on the other. None of these conditions were met, therefore combat continues until they are. You have the option of retreating.


  • I will allow an edit of the turn where you only attack with the fighters and move the transports and carriers in during non-com. You would also have to edit UK’s non-com of an infantry and AA gun to Gibraltar since it is still a hostile territory.


  • but i can still attack that sz with uk with a destroyer.

    i ve destroyed ur cruiser with my air

    i move ACs there in ncm.

    and i ve destroyed ur sub with uk des


  • ok, its the same what u wrote, sorry.

    ok , sorry for all this, pretty big set back for me, but i ve learned my lesson with the rules  :lol:


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

    Game History

    Round: 4

    Politics - Italians

    Combat Move - Italians
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Gibraltar: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Gibraltar: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Gibraltar from British to Germans
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Gibraltar: 1 armour and 2 fighters
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Morocco from Americans to Italians
                EDIT: Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
                EDIT: Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                EDIT: 5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
                EDIT: Italians undo move 1.
                EDIT: 5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
                EDIT: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to British Guiana
                EDIT: 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
                EDIT: Italians undo move 3.
                EDIT: Italians undo move 2.
                EDIT: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
                EDIT: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to British Guiana
                EDIT: 1 infantry moved from British Guiana to Brazil
                EDIT: Italians undo move 2.
                EDIT: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
                EDIT: Italians undo move 4.
                EDIT: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
                EDIT: Italians undo move 2.
                EDIT: 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
                EDIT: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to British Guiana

    triplea_41759_Ita4.tsvg


  • @Amon-Sul:

    ok, its the same what u wrote, sorry.

    ok , sorry for all this, pretty big set back for me, but i ve learned my lesson with the rules   :lol:

    Next time just buy a destroyer  :-P I’ll play in a few hours.


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

    Game History

    Round: 4

    Politics - Italians

    Combat Move - Italians
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Gibraltar: 1 infantry
                EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Gibraltar: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Gibraltar from British to Germans
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Gibraltar: 1 armour and 2 fighters
                EDIT: Changing ownership of Morocco from Americans to Italians
                EDIT: Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
                EDIT: Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                EDIT: 5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
                EDIT: Italians undo move 1.
                EDIT: 5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
                EDIT: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to British Guiana
                EDIT: 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
                EDIT: Italians undo move 3.
                EDIT: Italians undo move 2.
                EDIT: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
                EDIT: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to British Guiana
                EDIT: 1 infantry moved from British Guiana to Brazil
                EDIT: Italians undo move 2.
                EDIT: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
                EDIT: Italians undo move 4.
                EDIT: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
                EDIT: Italians undo move 2.
                EDIT: 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
                EDIT: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to British Guiana
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
                1 bomber moved from Greece to Alexandria
                1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
                      Italians take Western Ukraine from Russians

    Purchase Units - Italians
                Italians buy 1 fighter and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat - Italians
                Italians creates battle in territory 97 Sea Zone
                Battle in Alexandria
                    Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                    British defend with 1 infantry
                        Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 :  3/3 hits
                        British roll dice for 1 infantry in Alexandria, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                        1 infantry owned by the British lost in Alexandria
                    Italians win, taking 97 Sea Zone from British, taking Alexandria from British with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for British: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                1 bomber moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
                1 armour moved from Tunisia to Tobruk
                1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                2 aaGuns moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
                2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
                1 carrier moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
                EDIT: 2 artilleries moved from Northern Italy to Syria
                EDIT: 6 infantry moved from Albania to Syria
                1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland

    Place Units - Italians
                1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Southern Italy
                6 infantry placed in Northern Italy
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Eastern Poland: 2 aaGuns
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Belarus: 2 aaGuns
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Turn Complete - Italians
                Italians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs
                Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs
                Objective Italians 3 North Africa Control: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 30 PUs
                Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 35 PUs

    triplea_41759_Ita4.tsvg


  • For some unknown reason, TripleA wouldn’t let me load and unload from some of my transports. I made an edit to do my move. I assume it’s a bug, because I can’t see why the use of transports would be restricted there.


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

    Game History

    Round: 4

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
                ANZAC buy 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
                1 cruiser, 4 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
                2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

    Place Units - ANZAC
                1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
                1 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
                ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs
                Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs
                Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 16 PUs

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
                1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt

    Turn Complete - French

    triplea_41759_Fre4.tsvg


  • now i see ur figs from gibraltar can attack my transports in guiana. can i redo my ncm with usa?

    i made a mistake because when i moved those transports there was no german units in gibraltar and moroco , so it confused me.


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  • @Amon-Sul:

    now i see ur figs from gibraltar can attack my transports in guiana. can i redo my ncm with usa?

    i made a mistake because when i moved those transports there was no german units in gibraltar and moroco , so it confused me.

    Sure, where do you want them?


  • Well, acording to the rules, since i withdrew from sz 91 battle, i must withdraw with all my sea units, not just transports.

    so my entire navy (2 ACs, 3 usa figs) + 1 uk fig go to sz 88


  • no, wait , accordin to rules i can not withdraw with those 3 figs since they already spent their 5 movement.

    so it means they are dead  :cry:


  • TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3 with Combat Move First, version: 3.3

    Game History

    Round: 5

    Research Technology - Germans

    Politics - Germans
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

    Combat Move - Germans
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 91 Sea Zone: 3 fighters
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                EDIT: 2 carriers moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
                EDIT: 1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone

    triplea_41759_Ger5.tsvg


  • @Amon-Sul:

    no, wait , accordin to rules i can not withdraw with those 3 figs since they already spent their 5 movement.

    so it means they are dead  :cry:

    My suggestion was to deem the battle to have only involved the fighters and non-com the transports and carriers to 91. I see no reason why you should be punished for misunderstanding the rules. So, everything gets moved to 91 and the fighters remain. Does this sound acceptable?


  • @DeadTom:

    @Amon-Sul:

    no, wait , accordin to rules i can not withdraw with those 3 figs since they already spent their 5 movement.

    so it means they are dead  :cry:

    My suggestion was to deem the battle to have only involved the fighters and non-com the transports and carriers to 91. I see no reason why you should be punished for misunderstanding the rules. So, everything gets moved to 91 and the fighters remain. Does this sound acceptable?

    yes. thank U. can U please do all the edits on Ur next turn?

    cheers :)

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