Dutch Territories & +30 rule

@krieghund Hi, I am being told by another forum board member today that a so called ‘new’ errata takes away the +30 rule for the unprovoked attack by the Japanese on the Allies. But, I can’t find that alluded to new errata. Any idea if there was discussion of taking that one time special immediate bonus from the USA? thx

@mikemikemike
The bonus is still in effect. There is no “new” errata that removes it. Perhaps your friend is thinking of the fact that the bonus applies only to the Pacific game, and not the Global game?

@krieghund @mikemikemike I think the confusion is stemming from some members referring to a “one time bonus” in this thread that insofar as I can tell, does not exist. Please correct if I am wrong.

@the_good_captain sorry, right church… wrong pew ! two separate subjects as you correctly point out.

@the_good_captain said in Dutch Territories & +30 rule:

@krieghund @mikemikemike I think the confusion is stemming from some members referring to a “one time bonus” in this thread that insofar as I can tell, does not exist. Please correct if I am wrong.

It does indeed exist. From the FAQ:

Page 9, The Political Situation, The United States: This paragraph should read “The United States begins the game neutral. It may not declare war on Japan unless Japan first declares war on it or makes an unprovoked declaration of war against the United Kingdom or ANZAC. Following any such unprovoked declaration of war by Japan, the United States will receive an immediate one-time bonus payment of 30 IPCs, representing the total mobilization and transfer of military assets within the continental United States. However, if the United States is still not at war with Japan by the Collect Income phase of its third turn, it may declare war on Japan at the beginning of that phase. This is an exception to the rules for declaring war (see “Declaring War,” page 11), which may normally be done only at the beginning of the Combat Move phase.” (Note that this change applies only to the Pacific rules, and not to the Global rules.)

@mikemikemike said in Dutch Territories & +30 rule:

@the_good_captain sorry, right church… wrong pew ! two separate subjects as you correctly point out.

OK, now I’m confused. Is your question about this one-time bonus? If not, what is it about?

@krieghund two separate questions. both were answered. I am good. 1. the USA can’t get the Dutch Island bonus’ unless the island is liberated from the Japanese. 2. In AA 1940 Pacific, there is a 30 point immediate one time special bonus to USA for a Japanese unprovoked attack upon the Allies. Thanks, ,

@krieghund wow. thank you sir. I looked for this and was convinced it was a ghost. Is there any reason this isn’t on the resources-download page of this website? https://www.axisandallies.org/resources-downloads/

(its also not here: https://axisallies.com/rule-books/ although I understand they may not be affiliated)

@the_good_captain Those haven’t been updated indeed.

But in every subforum we reference the original source for the latest documents, that is

https://avalonhill.wizards.com/rules

(See for example one of the stickies in this subforum:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/18545/pacific-1940-2-rulebook-available-for-download)

They usually offer the latest rules documents.

@panther https://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/ah/AA_Pacific_1940_2nd_Edition_FAQ.pdf?fbclid=IwAR17m6D3_CD2nn9BSOOaX9-Ib09WeTiAQQUDrnQhCNtSCWudnhkZMpj2KLY

Here is the Errata for Axis & Allies Pacific 1940, 2nd Edition, FAQ
November 24, 2014

@the_good_captain said in Dutch Territories & +30 rule:

@krieghund wow. thank you sir. I looked for this and was convinced it was a ghost. Is there any reason this isn’t on the resources-download page of this website? https://www.axisandallies.org/resources-downloads/

I couldn’t say, as I am not involved in the management of this site. It does seem that this page needs some updating.

(its also not here: https://axisallies.com/rule-books/ although I understand they may not be affiliated)

I was not aware of this site. It doesn’t seem to be up-to-date. I would be wary of such fan-made sites, as they are not always well-maintained.

@mikemikemike said in Dutch Territories & +30 rule:

@panther https://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/ah/AA_Pacific_1940_2nd_Edition_FAQ.pdf?fbclid=IwAR17m6D3_CD2nn9BSOOaX9-Ib09WeTiAQQUDrnQhCNtSCWudnhkZMpj2KLY

Here is the Errata for Axis & Allies Pacific 1940, 2nd Edition, FAQ
November 24, 2014

Yes, Wizards/AH offer rulebooks and FAQ-sheets.

@panther Is it possible to get this uploaded to the resources page? Or how would I go about making that request?

I am a big proponent of errata and encourage players to always print one out for their game and throw it in the box as a matter of course. I am somewhat embarrassed to say I did not know this existed. I assumed folks were talking about the NO.

Thanks all for the help. Much respect.

@the_good_captain

Technically an update/addition of media should be no problem, it is just a matter of @djensen to find some time to do it.

In the meantime I recommend to use said Wizards/AH site (https://avalonhill.wizards.com/rules).
Also in almost every game-specific forum category we have linked to the current rulebooks/FAQ-sheets in stickied topics on top of every specific category.

However, what @Krieghund quoted above from the FAQ-sheet had been included into the current rulebook, just look at the top of page 9, current Pacific 1940.2 rulebook. As far as I remember almost every aspect of the FAQ-sheets (if not all?) had been included into the newer rulebook prints, available via the above link, too.

@panther …checking as I read this …and so it is. So there is an errata but its not necessary if you have the 2nd edition rulebook. A bit confusing but, again, thank you all very much. This has been …enlightening. Gonna have a smoke now.

@the_good_captain

Indeed. Actually you need the errata in case you own an older/outdated print of the second edition rulebook. But in that case you are fine with updating the rulebook itself.