@rulebook_reviewer https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/31377/axis-victories-what-s-the-magic-trick
It’s already been discussed.
Winning Conditions
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The way I read the winning conditions for the allies, is that they have to take Tokyo, Berlin and Rome which seems a bit tougher than the 8/6 victory cities of the Axis.
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The idea is that the game is likely not last that long. The axis player would usually concede before all 3 are taken.
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In all practicality, the Allies’ victory conditions are to deny the Axis the 8/6 victory cities.
Once the Axis player has given up hope of getting a victory on either board, he resigns, as the result is inevitable.
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Yeah, I have seen that in every game where the Allies have won. We usually like to play it all the way out, which leads to pretty long games (13-15 rounds or so). There is a point though where you can pretty much tell the Axis just can’t win on either board.
Japan may have Calcutta and doing well against China, but if the Allies have enough naval power Japan will be in no position to get Sydney or Honolulu.
As for Germany, they may be pushing well into Russia, but if the USA/UK manage landings in France, it gets really hard for Germany to fight them off and keep up the pressure against the Russians. If the Allies manage to liberate Paris and/or take Rome, then forget it. It’s just a matter of time unless an Allied player makes some really bad mistake.
It’s probably likely that we could call the game around 8-10 rounds, but we just like to play it to the bitter end. Sometimes it’s an interesting challenge to see how long you can keep the Allies from totally winning. Usually it’s Japan that ends up holding out the longest. While they may be SBRed into the stone age and convoy raided into bankruptcy, they tend to have a stack of men and several fighters just waiting for that American invasion, so it takes time for the US to build up a suitable invasion force.By the way, has anyone else noticed that Allied victories usually take much longer than Axis victories? Most of our Allied victories are roughly 13-15 rounds while Axis victories tend to be around 7-8 rounds.
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By the way, has anyone else noticed that Allied victories usually take much longer than Axis victories? Most of our Allied victories are roughly 13-15 rounds while Axis victories tend to be around 7-8 rounds.
I’ve had numerous Allied victories after 3-4 rounds (when they realize that USA and USSR entering the war is going to be too much to handle), and you can have them in the first round especially if an attack on 95 or 97 goes almost perfectly.
Again, since the Allies win if the Axis can’t, whenever it becomes apparent that the Axis can’t, it’s over. So Allied wins happen at all different stages of the game. Have you ever had Germany fail to take Paris in the first round? Or have their sea battles G1 go badly? There are many ways for the Axis to lose, and lose early :-)You made very good insights and overall summaries of common situations in the game, by the way. Haven’t heard much from you for awhile, unfortunately!
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