Or, does the Soviet/Japanese Non-Aggression Pact prevail in this situation? Now, let’s say the reverse, as I posted in my quote from Gamerman. Example : The Axis attack a strict neutral. All other strict neutrals become Pro-Allied neutrals. What happens to Mongolia? Do they become Pro-Allied. Or, does the Soviet/Japanese Non-Aggression Pact prevail in this situation as well?
You guys all need to carefully read the strict neutral, friendly neutral, un-friendly neutral, and Mongolia rules in the 2nd edition rulebook.
I will give you a clear summary of all the Mongolia/strict neutral rules here shortly
krieg, can just the planes that survived the attack get to moscow? Â what about other planes that want to fly over afghanistan in noncom? Â can they do so if afghanistan still has a standing army?
Yes, they could. You could accomplish the same thing by attacking Afghanistan with one infantry (or even having another power attack it before your turn) and then moving the planes in noncombat movement.
Krieg, in your answer above you state that if an Allied power attacked Afghanistan, then it would join the Axis and all other strict neutrals would become Pro-Axis neutrals but Mongolia would not? See the answer I got from Gamerman above, on the previous page. Wouldn’t Mongolia also become Pro-Axis neutral in this example?
No. Mongolia only becomes pro-Axis if it is attacked by the Soviet Union.
Now, let’s say the reverse, as I posted in my quote from Gamerman. Example : The Axis attack a strict neutral. All other strict neutrals become Pro-Allied neutrals. What happens to Mongolia? Do they become Pro-Allied. Or, does the Soviet/Japanese Non-Aggression Pact prevail in this situation as well?
They become pro-Allies.
Thanks Krieghund
Mongolia:
If Japan attacks a Russian controlled territory bordering Mongolia, all of Mongolia is immediately Russian
a) If Japan attacks Mongolia in the same combat move, they break neutrality of all strict neutrals
b) This is the ONLY way all of Mongolia will immediately turn Russian without territories needing to be activated.
If Russia attacks Korea or a Japanese controlled territory bordering Mongolia, then the Mongolians will not join Russia as in #1 above
If neither of the above takes place, Mongolia continues on as a strict neutral, but
Neutrals:
Beware: There are currently a lot of these rules that Triple A does not currently adhere to correctly. You are responsible for knowing the rules yourself. Don’t rely on Triple A for rule interpretation. Just because it allows it, doesn’t mean it’s legal.
Might have forgot something - can always edit later
How about the Dutch colonies? They aren’t neutral but they are sort of weird too
kcdzim put it quite succinctly.
I won’t use the quote function because it will all be in small print with blue background, so I’ll just cite the source. This is from kcdzim:
Dutch territories are treated exactly the same as any other territory that is
a) friendly
b) lost their capitol.
The only difference between Dutch territories and say, French territories after Paris has been lost, is that the UK/Anzac have a special relationship that allows them to take control of them before they’ve been captured by moving a ground unit into it. Typically you need to capture - this is the one of the two instances where control of a friendly territory passes to a friendly power. The other instance is a neutral that has been attacked but not captured.
So when you’re confused about things, ask yourself how you’d treat normandy if it were still french.
Can you UK/Anzac/US/Russia land a plane there? Yes, as long as it started the turn friendly and they’re not neutral. Exactly the same as any other friendly territory.
The US is not barred from being in a dutch territory - they must be at war first, but then they’re allowed to move into it just like any other friendly territory.
I will add one direct statement in an attempt to improve understanding and clarity:
The USA can NOT take control of a Dutch territory the way UK/ANZ can. The only way for the USA to control a territory that was originally Dutch is if an Axis power takes it first. Then if the USA takes it, they will control it.
If the allies declare war on True Neutrals, does Mongolia lose its ability to become Pro-Allies?
If after allies declare war on true neutrals, can Japan attack a russian held territory bordering mongolia without fear of mongolia instantly turning russian?
If after allies declare war on true neutrals, can Japan declare war on mongolia and directly attack it, without affecting other neutrals? Does this also flip all of mongolia?
If the allies declare war on True Neutrals, does Mongolia lose its ability to become Pro-Allies?
If after allies declare war on true neutrals, can Japan attack a russian held territory bordering mongolia without fear of mongolia instantly turning russian?
If after allies declare war on true neutrals, can Japan declare war on mongolia and directly attack it, without affecting other neutrals? Does this also flip all of mongolia?
Gamer is your mongolia post unclear in any way?
If the allies declare war on True Neutrals, does Mongolia lose its ability to become Pro-Allies?
No. Mongolia does not turn pro-Axis unless Russia attacks it directly. Therefore, Mongolia could become pro-Allied after the Allies break neutrality on the rest of the world. This would happen if an Axis power invaded a Mongolian territory. The rest of Mongolia would turn pro-Allies.
If after allies declare war on true neutrals, can Japan attack a russian held territory bordering mongolia without fear of mongolia instantly turning russian?
No, Mongolia WILL turn Russian in this case. The rule book says if Japan attacks a Russian controlled territory bordering Mongolia, it will instantly turn Russian. There is no condition about the status of the other true neutrals and whether the Allies have broken neutrality elsewhere.
If after allies declare war on true neutrals, can Japan declare war on mongolia and directly attack it, without affecting other neutrals? Does this also flip all of mongolia?
You don’t declare war on Mongolia or true neutrals. You only declare war on playable powers. You have confused everyone by making it say “Declare war on the neutrals!” in Triple A! :-)
If Japan attacks Mongolia after the allies have broken true neutrality elsewhere in the world, this would have NO effect on the OTHER true neutrals around the world. It would only turn all the other NON-ATTACKED Mongolian territories PRO-ALLIED
just read it quick but I’m not sure that last part is Right gammer. If allies broke neutrality then all neutrals but mongolia are already pro axis.
just read it quick but I’m not sure that last part is Right gammer. If allies broke neutrality then all neutrals but mongolia are already pro axis.
Yeah, I think you read it too quick. Read it again.
just read it quick but I’m not sure that last part is Right gammer. If allies broke neutrality then all neutrals but mongolia are already pro axis.
Yeah, I think you read it too quick. Read it again.
I think ive been reading cow’s ramblings too much its scrambling my brains.
Can you blitz a pro axis during non combat from and to a territory you control? Say west germ -> switzerland ->france?
@Cow:
Can you blitz a pro axis during non combat from and to a territory you control? Say west germ -> switzerland ->france?
NO. You also can’t move mech or armor through a friendly neutral that you just took in noncombat.
You can only blitz neutrals that are empty and are either true neutrals or unfriendly to you.
The rule book plainly says, under “friendly neutrals”
“They can be moved into (but not through) as a noncombat move by land units of a power that is at war”
Do you have access to a rule book, Cow?
It is just cooler to ask these things on the FAQ. :)
Eventually every possible rule question about subs, neutrals, politics, etc will be asked. Then a simple search will end any argument or debate possible.
Oh yeah the whole share sea zone thing is still the same right?
Same as what? AA50?
@Cow:
It is just cooler to ask these things on the FAQ. :)
Eventually every possible rule question about subs, neutrals, politics, etc will be asked. Then a simple search will end any argument or debate possible.
Oh yeah the whole share sea zone thing is still the same right?
A classic unintelligible cow question.
Questions about strategic and tactical bombing…
1). During the combat move phase, before combat begins(i.e. rolling for fighter interceptors, fighters escorts, AA, etc…), do the tactical bombers and strategic bombers bombing a territory(either IC’s, AB’s or NB’s) have to announce what they’re bombing? Meaning, the player announces this tactical bomber is bombing this airbase and these 3 SBR’s are strategically bombing this IC? Or, does the player say, this tactical bomber and these 3 SBR’s are performing strategic and tactical bombing on this territory and then after fighter interceptors, fighter escorts are rolled for, if any, does the player announce which target they’re bombing?
2). Do tactical bombers get to roll a “1” during the combat phase, if the other player has fighter interceptors? Or, do only SBR’s roll “1’s” during this phase? Of course fighter interceptors and fighter escorts get to roll “1’s” during this phase as well.
You dont announce what bombers are bombing what until the air battle is over. Tacs do get to roll in the air battle.
