Jmite (axis) vs Jenn(allies) alpha 3 no tech v10/25 game 2

@VictoryFirst

It seems the Allies are skilled Sub hunters so far. At least that helps to even out the Sea Power disparity in the Atlantic.

I can understand the Allies are not having a fun time this game. The Germans are now walking over a red carpet to Moscow lol. Thats why I suggest for the next game we start from this save file.

Atlantic Fiasco.tsvg

As the name suggests, it’s basically a G1 that has a more or less average EF, but a terrible Atlantic. This happened in my sixth game against TGC. Playing as the Allies, I was able to bring the Moscow odds to something around 65% I believe. Then we switched sides starting from the same save file and he also brought the Moscow odds to something like that.

So now I am curious if you can bring the Moscow odds lower than us with your fighter shuck strategy.

Moscow battle: -28.78 / -52 (this one doesn’t really matter but I’ll still include it)
Total: -142.09 / -85

Well that TUV Differential went down fast after the Belorussia battle lol.

TripleA Turn Summary: Chinese round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: The Rising Sun

Game History

Round: 3 Combat Move - Chinese 2 Mech.Infs moved from Xining to N.Shangsi 2 Artillerys, 6 Infantrys and 1 Tank moved from Gansu to N.Shangsi 1 EarlyFighter moved from Szechwan to N.Shangsi 1 EarlyFighter moved from W.Sian to N.Shangsi Purchase Units - Chinese Chinese buy 1 Elite, 5 Infantrys and 4 Tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - Chinese Battle in N.Shangsi Chinese attack with 2 Artillerys, 2 EarlyFighters, 6 Infantrys, 2 Mech.Infs and 1 Tank Hisaichi defend with 1 Artillery, 7 Infantrys and 2 Tanks Chinese roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 2 EarlyFighters, 6 Infantrys, 2 Mech.Infs and 1 Tank in N.Shangsi, round 2 : 4/13 hits, 4.17 expected hits Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Artillery, 7 Infantrys and 2 Tanks in N.Shangsi, round 2 : 1/10 hits, 3.67 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Chinese lost in N.Shangsi 4 Infantrys owned by the Hisaichi lost in N.Shangsi Chinese roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 2 EarlyFighters, 5 Infantrys, 2 Mech.Infs and 1 Tank in N.Shangsi, round 3 : 3/12 hits, 4.00 expected hits Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Artillery, 3 Infantrys and 2 Tanks in N.Shangsi, round 3 : 1/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Chinese lost in N.Shangsi 3 Infantrys owned by the Hisaichi lost in N.Shangsi Chinese roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 2 EarlyFighters, 4 Infantrys, 2 Mech.Infs and 1 Tank in N.Shangsi, round 4 : 3/11 hits, 3.83 expected hits Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Artillery and 2 Tanks in N.Shangsi, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Chinese lost in N.Shangsi 2 Tanks owned by the Hisaichi and 1 Artillery owned by the Hisaichi lost in N.Shangsi Chinese win, taking N.Shangsi from Hisaichi with 2 Artillerys, 2 EarlyFighters, 3 Infantrys, 2 Mech.Infs and 1 Tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22 Casualties for Chinese: 3 Infantrys Casualties for Hisaichi: 1 Artillery, 7 Infantrys and 2 Tanks Non Combat Move - Chinese 2 EarlyFighters moved from N.Shangsi to Gansu 1 Tank moved from Tsingnan to Gansu 1 Artillery moved from Tsingnan to Gansu 4 Infantrys moved from Tsingnan to Gansu 2 Infantrys moved from Gobi to Tsingnan 1 Artillery moved from Gobi to Tsingnan 1 Elite moved from Xining to Tsingnan 3 Infantrys moved from Xining to Tsingnan 1 AAGun moved from Ming Jong to Xining 4 Mech.Infs moved from Urumal to Tsingnan 2 Tanks moved from Szechwan to Gansu 1 Infantry moved from N.Chunking to W.Sian Place Units - Chinese 1 Elite and 5 Infantrys placed in Xining 4 Tanks placed in Urumal Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 29 PUs; end with 29 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -2.00 Hisaichi regular : -4.33

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 11

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War

Game History

Round: 11 Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. 1 Infantry moved from Aquitaine to Navarre Germans take Navarre from British 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys moved from Aquitaine to Aragon 1 Artillery and 3 Infantrys moved from Stalingrad to Saratov 1 Tank moved from Stalingrad to Saratov 1 Fighter moved from Georgia to Saratov 5 Mech.Infs and 23 Tanks moved from Kursk to Moscow 6 Tanks moved from S.Karelia to Moscow 1 Stuka moved from Kiev to Penza 2 Infantrys moved from Rostov to Penza 1 Infantry moved from Rostov to Penza 1 Artillery moved from S.Algeria to N.Algeria Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 Adv.Fighter, 2 Artillerys, 2 HeavyTanks, 16 Infantrys, 1 JetFighter, 4 Submarines and 6 Tanks; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - Germans Battle in N.Algeria Germans attack with 1 Artillery Dutch defend with 1 Elite Germans roll dice for 1 Artillery in N.Algeria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits French roll dice for 1 Elite in N.Algeria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Elite owned by the Dutch lost in N.Algeria Germans win, taking N.Algeria from French with 1 Artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Dutch: 1 Elite Battle in Aragon Germans attack with 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys British defend with 1 Infantry Germans roll dice for 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys in Aragon, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 Infantry in Aragon, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the British lost in Aragon Germans win, taking Aragon from British with 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for British: 1 Infantry Battle in Saratov Germans attack with 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 3 Infantrys and 1 Tank Russians defend with 1 Infantry and 1 Tank Germans roll dice for 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 3 Infantrys and 1 Tank in Saratov, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 Infantry and 1 Tank in Saratov, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Germans lost in Saratov 1 Infantry owned by the Russians and 1 Tank owned by the Russians lost in Saratov Germans win, taking Saratov from Russians with 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 2 Infantrys and 1 Tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Germans: 1 Infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 Infantry and 1 Tank Battle in Penza Germans attack with 3 Infantrys and 1 Stuka Russians defend with 1 Infantry Germans roll dice for 3 Infantrys and 1 Stuka in Penza, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 Infantry in Penza, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Germans lost in Penza 1 Infantry owned by the Russians lost in Penza Germans win, taking Penza from Russians with 2 Infantrys and 1 Stuka remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 Infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 Infantry Battle in Moscow Germans attack with 5 Mech.Infs and 29 Tanks Russians defend with 1 AAGun, 2 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 2 Elites, 1 Factory, 9 HeavyTanks, 6 Infantrys and 2 Tanks Germans roll dice for 5 Mech.Infs and 29 Tanks in Moscow, round 2 : 14/34 hits, 16.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 2 Elites, 9 HeavyTanks, 6 Infantrys and 2 Tanks in Moscow, round 2 : 10/22 hits, 10.83 expected hits 5 Mech.Infs owned by the Germans and 5 Tanks owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 2 Elites owned by the Russians, 6 Infantrys owned by the Russians, 2 Artillerys owned by the Russians, 1 Bunker owned by the Russians and 2 Tanks owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 24 Tanks in Moscow, round 3 : 8/24 hits, 12.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 9 HeavyTanks in Moscow, round 3 : 5/9 hits, 6.00 expected hits 5 Tanks owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 8 HeavyTanks owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans roll dice for 19 Tanks in Moscow, round 4 : 11/19 hits, 9.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 HeavyTank in Moscow, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 Tank owned by the Germans lost in Moscow 1 HeavyTank owned by the Russians lost in Moscow Germans captures 65PUs while taking Russians capital Germans win, taking Moscow from Russians with 18 Tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20 Casualties for Germans: 5 Mech.Infs and 11 Tanks Casualties for Russians: 2 Artillerys, 1 Bunker, 2 Elites, 9 HeavyTanks, 6 Infantrys and 2 Tanks Non Combat Move - Germans 1 Fighter moved from Saratov to Georgia 1 Stuka moved from Penza to Rostov 2 Infantrys moved from Rostov to Georgia 5 Artillerys moved from Kursk to Rostov 1 Tank moved from Kiev to Rostov 4 ArmoredCars and 5 Tanks moved from Vinnytsia to Rostov 1 AAGun and 8 Infantrys moved from Kiev to Donetsk 5 Infantrys moved from Brest to Kiev 2 ArmoredCars and 2 Tanks moved from Warsaw to Kiev 1 Elite and 1 Infantry moved from Novgorod to S.Karelia 1 Artillery and 9 Infantrys moved from Leningrad to S.Karelia 1 Infantry moved from Danzig to 24 Sea Zone 1 Infantry and 1 T.Boat moved from 24 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone 1 Infantry moved from 23 Sea Zone to Hamburg 2 Infantrys moved from Danzig to 24 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys and 3 Transports moved from 24 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from 22 Sea Zone to Netherlands 3 Adv.Fighters, 1 Battleship, 2 Carriers, 2 Cruisers and 1 Destroyer moved from 21 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 Artillery and 5 Infantrys moved from Orleanais to Languedoc 1 Artillery moved from Aquitaine to Languedoc 1 HeavyTank moved from Paris to Languedoc 2 Tanks moved from Paris to Languedoc 1 Elite moved from Paris to Orleanais 1 Artillery moved from Paris to Orleanais 3 Infantrys moved from Paris to Orleanais 2 Infantrys moved from Normandy to Orleanais Place Units - Germans 1 Adv.Fighter and 4 Submarines placed in 22 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys and 1 JetFighter placed in Normandy 3 Infantrys and 2 Tanks placed in Stalingrad 1 HeavyTank and 2 Infantrys placed in Georgia 1 Artillery and 3 Infantrys placed in Rhine 1 Tank placed in Hamburg 1 Artillery, 1 HeavyTank and 6 Infantrys placed in Paris 3 Tanks placed in Bavaria Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 146 PUs; end with 211 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

French regular : -0.33 Russians regular : -0.67 Germans regular : -3.83 British regular : -0.33

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 10

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 10 Purchase Units - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 126 Sea Zone: 2 aaGuns, 2 infantry and 2 transports EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Eastern United States: 1 artillery and 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Eastern United States: 2 aaGuns EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 126 Sea Zone: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Americans buy 3 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 7 infantry and 6 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 units repaired. 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 126 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from Iceland to Eastern United States 1 tactical_bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to Eastern United States 1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Americans take 6 Sea Zone from Japanese 4 submarines moved from 27 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 2 infantry moved from Shantung to 20 Sea Zone 5 fighters moved from Kiangsu to 20 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kiangsu to 20 Sea Zone 2 marines moved from Okinawa to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Guam to 22 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from New Britain to 48 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 48 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 battleships, 4 infantry, 2 marines, 2 mech_infantrys and 5 transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone Americans take 23 Sea Zone from Japanese 3 transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone 5 fighters moved from 20 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima 1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 24 Sea Zone Americans take 18 Sea Zone from Japanese 4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 4 artilleries, 4 infantry and 4 transports moved from 27 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Korea Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Americans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 1 infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux Americans win, taking Korea from Japanese, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 66 Sea Zone to Southeast Mexico 1 armour, 1 artillery, 8 infantry, 2 marines and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 24 Sea Zone to Wake Island Place Units - Americans 3 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Central United States 6 transports placed in 104 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 11 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 61 PUs; end with 61 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 86 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 91 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Hunan 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Fukien to Kiangsi Combat - Chinese Battle in Jehol Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Jehol Chinese win, taking Jehol from Japanese with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 36 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode EDIT: 1 bomber moved from Wake Island to Hunan EDIT: Chinese undo move 1. EDIT: 1 bomber moved from Wake Island to Hunan Place Units - Chinese 7 infantry placed in Hunan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 19 PUs; end with 20 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 airfield and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 destroyer moved from 78 Sea Zone to 100 Sea Zone 1 bomber, 7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Persia to 100 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Southern Persia to Baluchistan 1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Eastern India to Burma 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 78 Sea Zone to 73 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in Burma British attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Burma, round 3 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Burma, round 4 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in 100 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers Italians defend with 2 destroyers British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 7 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 100 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 5.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 2 destroyers in 100 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 100 Sea Zone 2 destroyers owned by the Italians lost in 100 Sea Zone British win with 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 fighter Casualties for Italians: 2 destroyers Non Combat Move - British 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 100 Sea Zone to Egypt 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 2 fighters and 6 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 9 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from Burma to Eastern India Place Units - British 1 airfield placed in Egypt 9 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 37 PUs; end with 38 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 41 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Eastern India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs Some Units in Eastern India change ownership: 1 fighter and 1 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.17 Americans regular : -0.17 Italians regular : 1.33 Japanese regular : -1.33 Germans regular : 0.67 British regular : -3.17

Savegame

@crockett36

No scramble to 110.

Please note that you did the turn in local mode, so you need to redo you combat move in forum mode in order to post.

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