Event Triggered Tech Advances

5. Atomic Bomb  rolleyes Really? The atomic bomb was only used once the US had practically won the war. It might have been drawn out, but they would have won. This is already represented by VCs. Once you capture enough VCs, you win. This would happen before and atomic bomb was developed.
In regards to game play, it seems lame. The cost seems to be too much merely to prevent one turn of production. I honestly think the whole idea should be scrapped.

The war would have gone on till 1946. The two bombs dropped changed that. japan figured it could get a negotiated peace if it soiled the beaches of Japan with American blood. The bombs changed that completely. It was also dropped to get political advantage over the Soviets who wanted spoils in Asia and to deny them the same. The bomb was the most important invention of the war and it above all other techs must be represented. Obviously, it would be had to obtain and require alot of research to have. The idea is also to have one tech that changes the game and makes it end. Some games require such an outcome because players sometimes never surrender and Atomic weaponry will finish the stalemate.

And that is exactly what it did.

In some games you can play and not obtain an outcome, while with this technology you are assured that the game will finish up soon. In most games that last of normal duration it wont be developed and thats the charm of it.

you have to build bombers to carry paratroopers and you only carry one of them and that can only be dropped 2 spaces away from friendly forces. The bomber commitment alone precludes the issue of “flying shock armies from buck rogers”.  Unfortunately some feel that you should be able to build and use them w/o bombers and i know 100% that this is a broken game, however, the OOB is somewhat balanced.

but if you feel its not balanced you can impose a “training cost” of 1 or more IPC every time you drop airborne, paid to model training of these elite specialists. Also, limit the build of one airborne per turn ( example: if you build 3 bombers in a turn you only can use 1 additional airborne drop the turn following placement and 1 each following turn for the next 3 turns)

This would preclude the really stupid and impossible idea of Germany building lots of bombers and thinking they will have an immediate Sealion because they didn’t buy anything for 5 turns and all of a sudden spurged on bombers as some kind of trick.

The game linked in my signature is a game in which Russia lucked out and got paratroopers!  I think there were only a few rounds Russia ended up NOT getting the +10 IPC NO!

It was also, probably, the longest game in history.

PS: Russia won the game, despite England falling early!

@oztea:

Interesting Idea fighter commander, a re-worked tech system with a 3rd and 4th chart, only open to the axis or the allies respectively.

Ive been dabiling with a tech system that locks each country onto a tech tree. It doesnt have to roll for resarch, it just has to pay an R&D fee, as much as it wants each turn, to consistently recive tech.

For example, Germany: for each  3 IPCs germany devoted to R&D, place a tech counter on germany

2 tech counters - Advanced artillery, to represent 88’s
4 tech counters - Rockets, the V2
7 tech counters - Jet Fighers, the Me-109
and so forth

I havent fleshed it out yet, or even gotten anywhere near doing all the other nations.

mmmm personally I think that Wpns Development the general type of breakthru should be elective but the timing of the breakthru should be largely random rather than budgeted

but that’s me… :-D 
And I will confess: I also don’t like NAs unless there’s a reason beyond a strict replay of WW2 (e.g., no Japanese rockets or Russian marines etc.)

NUCLEAR BOMB

A Nuclear Bomb is the only technology that can be targeted.  In order to research nuclear bombs, you must buy research dice, as opposed to tokens.  You buy dice in pairs, costing 10 IPCs per pair of dice.  You roll each pair of dice separately.  If you roll a 3 or less, you succeed.  Only one Nuclear Strike may be performed per tern.  There are three types of nuclear attacks that can be conducted:

Strategic Nuclear Strike

This attack is carried out on Industrial Complexes, and requires either Rockets or High Altitude Bombers [see my 3rd breakthrough chart].  These attacks follow the same rules for rocket attacks and strategic bombing runs, however, a successful strike results in the total destruction of the Industrial Complex, and the Industrial Complex is removed from the territory.  A new Industrial Complex may be built.  Only one bomber at a time may conduct a Strategic Nuclear Strike, and is immune to AA Gun fire.  It may be accompanied by escorts and intercepted.  An intercepted bomber that is destroyed does not trigger a Nuclear detonation.

Tactical Nuclear Strike
A tactical Nuclear strike is similar to a Strategic Nuclear Bombing Run in that it is done during the opening fire stage of combat, yet it is done against units as opposed to Industrial Complexes.  Only one bomber may perform a Tactical Nuclear Strike per turn.  One d6 is rolled.  The number on the die is the number of hits scored.  (example, a roll of 5 removes 5 enemy units from play).  Rockets may not conduct a Tactical Nuclear Strike.

Armageddon Nuclear Strike
This is a special attack that involves turning an entire territory into an impassable Nuclear Wasteland, and requires both Heavy Bombers and High Altitude Bombers.  A set number of bombers is required to perform this strike.  The total number of bombers in an Armageddon Strike Force must be equal to the IPC value of the territory to be nuked.  (for example, nuking Central United States requires 6 bombers).  If a bomber is shot down before it can drop its payload, the mission cannot be carried out and must be aborted, and no nukes are dropped.  When a successful Armageddon Strike is completed, remove all pieces from that territory, and place an upside-down control marker on it.  That territory is now considered impassable, and no income can be collected from it by any player.  This strike may not be done on territories with Victory Cities.  An island territory with no IPC value does not require Heavy Bombers to turn into a wasteland.

@dpdlc:

I never understood, how researching a technology would instantly upgrade your units for 0 cost. While doctrines is a change in tactical thinking, using units differently. You don’t actually have to build anything or upgrade anything, but the techniques in battle change and represent a learning experience.

In real life:

Germany focus on armored manuver warfare, to encircle their enemies.
France focused on static defenses.

US focused heavily on heavy bombers and daylight raids.
While Brittain focused on night bombers.

Russia focused on heavy preliminary artillery bombardment, for battles.
while the US had artillery available quickly to lower lever units. (“RADIO”)

Japan developed the expertise and techniques for night battles.

I think these things add a  little bit to flavor in the game.

Hi dpdlc,

What you’re describing sounds like the National Advantages available in A&A Revised.  These were nation specific advantages that reflected certain tactics, special units, or strategies used by the different A&A nations.

It’s a shame they took these out of AA50 because you are absolutely correct, when balanced appropriately, they can add tremendous flavor to a game (check out AAR: Enhanced which uses a much more balanced set of national advantages compared to AAR OOTB)

OH my poor memory… nevermind… :oops:

Actual units would encourage a lot more naval action. Germany would have a reason to attempt a complete naval blockade of the U.K., and the United Kingdoms would have to actively produce a navy instead of stacking their capitol.

http://www.shipwreckregistry.com/index4.htm Looking at this list there were close to 200 convoy routes used during WW2, and the attack.defensive of these convoys was an important part of the war effort. I find it strange that such a large part of the war is only commented on in Germany’s NA - Submarine Interdiction.