Re: Field Marshal Games Pieces Project Discussion thread

To answer your question; we are going to make the NAVAL units a few mm larger than the standard AA units in the WOTC games.  This allows us to show more detail in each unit.

I am still unsure if you are saying that your ships will be larger than Hasbro’s new and enlarged BB sculpts from the latest games, or if they are larger than the old pre AA42 BBs released back in August?

FMG, I am not picking your product apart, but this would allow me to judge whether just getting Italians would look funny on my board compared to the other pieces.  (In scale, at least)

Also, are the pieces hard or soft plastic (In case I wish to paint them)?

Cheers

Shadowhawk

Is there a way to order these sets already on the website ?

Not yet.  FMG is not quite ready to take orders yet but I think the time is not too far away.  When they are ready.  I’m sure they will announce it here first.

@ShadowHAwk:

Is there a way to order these sets already on the website ?

I looked over it but i cannot find a way to order them ( kinda odd if you want to sell them imo)

I think it would be difficult to take orders when this is the pre-production (almost ready for production) phase.  ;)
Almost there … almost … /bitesnailsinanticipation

Hi folks, me too want to get this pieces. How long I have to wait ?

@jim010:

To answer your question; we are going to make the NAVAL units a few mm larger than the standard AA units in the WOTC games.  This allows us to show more detail in each unit.

I am still unsure if you are saying that your ships will be larger than Hasbro’s new and enlarged BB sculpts from the latest games, or if they are larger than the old pre AA42 BBs released back in August?

FMG, I am not picking your product apart, but this would allow me to judge whether just getting Italians would look funny on my board compared to the other pieces.  (In scale, at least)

Also, are the pieces hard or soft plastic (In case I wish to paint them)?

Cheers

They will be slightly larger than those supplied in AA50.  Not sure if the plastic is “soft” or “hard”  I will ask the factory.

They will be released in 2010.

Thanks

@Imperious:

It is important that they are as close as possible to the color and nature of the plastic.

I would definatly send them a sample so they can match.

The rubbery kind of plastic is a huge mistake. It cannot be painted and is prone to minor flashing issues.

Hard plastic is the only way to go. Like modeling plastic because the pieces come out crisp.

OH! Ok, now I understand.  They are HARD plastic.  Not rubber!

You mean the pieces don’t come pre-painted? :-D

I’m not sure if this question is premature but does FMG have an idea on what they will make for the next batch?  I’ve been giving this a lot of thought.  I think perhaps technology units would be the most useful (Long range bomber, fighters, super subs, rockets and so on).  Anyone else have thoughts on this?

More samples please.

“You mean the pieces don’t come pre-painted?”

They’re going to be molded in the colors of FMG’s dice for each nation, BD… so hopefully, the only painting that would be necessary would be if you wanted to detail them.  (Unlike, say, miniatures from GHQ [metal] or Panzerschiffe [plastic], which are all in a uniform color…)

Which reminds me… does anyone on this thread know which paints in which colors would be the ideal ones for painting other AA miniatures so that they would all be in the same colors as FMG’s dice?  I’m thinking about standardizing on those colors and painting a bunch of my “legacy” pieces those colors for consistency.

@Black:

I’m not sure if this question is premature but does FMG have an idea on what they will make for the next batch?  I’ve been giving this a lot of thought.  I think perhaps technology units would be the most useful (Long range bomber, fighters, super subs, rockets and so on).  Anyone else have thoughts on this?

Yah peices for Jet Fighters, Long Range Fighters(like the P-51D mustang), Heavy Bombers, Rockets, and Super subs are long overdue, FMG should defintely make a set that included these.

Having peices like long-range jet fighters or long range heavy bombers is silly though, since their were no long range jet fighters and all heavy bombers were long range.

What other tech peices would we want? I would like a Radar Station, Rocket/SP Artillery, and an airborne infantry peice.

@Black:

I’m not sure if this question is premature but does FMG have an idea on what they will make for the next batch?  I’ve been giving this a lot of thought.  I think perhaps technology units would be the most useful (Long range bomber, fighters, super subs, rockets and so on).  Anyone else have thoughts on this?

As great as those would be, I think they should stick to making the existing countries first.  THEN branch out into the rest.

I think It would kind of suck to have Italy, and then everything else put on hold to get tech units thus making us wait a year or more for the next country.

Of course, once the 6 countries are done (plus I guess ANZAC and France for the new games, though I’d be willing to wait on those), then definately tech and other pieces!

FMG, any possibility of you guys developing your own game?

@FieldMarshalGames:

Yes we have.  The first Edition run will include the following for each Nation (Italy included)

Naval Units:
Transport
Submarine
Destroyer
Cruiser
Carrier
Battleship
Task Force Marker (Similar to AAP)

Air Units:
Fighter
Bomber
Dive Bomber
Air Transport

Army Units:
Infantry (Two Sculpts each)
Armour (Two Sculpts each)
Artillery
Half Track (Priest for Commonwealth units)
Truck
Commander Unit

Other Units Bonus:
Bunker Unit
Naval Base Unit-Marker (Like AAP)
Air Base Unit-Marker (Like AAP)
Army HQ Unit-Marker

This is what we have so far….  (We also are working on a BATTLE CHEST to hold these units… This may come later)

If FMG comes through with this for all six Nations they are going to make a killing. I am sure its expensive to get the molds, but once they have them they are going to dominate the A&A market aswell as other WW2 gaming markets. Every self-respecting WW2  board gamer is going to buy this.

And BD, that is a very good question.

PS: FMG, you said up in this post that the the UK halftrack would be the M7 priest, although that is agood unit for the UK or US artillery but the UK halftrack should be the bren carrier over 100,000 of them were produces, i think the most produced vehicle of its kind. Why dont you post what you are considering for all the molds so that you can get our feedback?

The ANZAC units in P40 are grey.  I assume German pieces in E40 will remain AA50 black.

Will this be a problem?  FMG Germans will be classic grey.  What will ANZAC be?

I am most sure that they would generate the maximum sales if they just take what is missing from these games and makes the pieces for them:

1. make real french units ( just need infantry, tank, mech infantry, artillery, fighter)

2. make technology pieces that you swap out when you get that technology:

a) jet fighters
b) long range bomber
c) paratroopers ( one sculpt for all)
d) rockets
e) super sub

3. make a few pieces to fix the WOTC mess ups:

a) allied artillery
b) replacement German artillery
c) ANZAC infantry
d) Replacement US fighter ( mustang)
e) alternative German tank (tiger tank)
f) alternative Japanese BB ( Kongo)
g) escort carriers for Japan and USA ( the other nations can use the same sculpt)
h) make a fortification unit
I) replacement German submarine ( not toothpick)

I don’t think if they made complete sets of total replacement units of the big 5 nations that it would make as many sales as just a correction of sculpts that most people agree that are needed.

IL, I disagree.  I’ll bet that most people here ultimately want a complete package.  That means all new pieces for every country, tech pieces and the special extras such as escort carriers, medium bombers and so on.  At least that’s what I want.

No disrespect to you IL but I would not like to see a package that fills in the gaps because it would torment me.  If they made one as you suggested.  I would have this nice Kongo BB.  And because it is so nice it would make the rest of my standard BB look like crap and that would bug me.  I like everything to be of the same standard.

My preference would be for FMG to make a complete package for each country (From seeing FMG’s quote.  This appears to be the case) a package for tech units and a package for special and extra units such as commandos, paratrooper, jeep carriers, medium bombers and so on.  (Depending on the number of units to be made.  The tech and special units can be combined.  However, I think the tech and special units might be more useful to make first then the countries.

Another approach FMG could take is to make pieces by groups.  For example.  The next batch would be infantry.  I would include all infantry from each country plus any tech or special units such as airborne, commandos and so on.  The next batch would be armor for each country, halftrack, tanks and heavy tanks.  The next after that would be aircraft.  Fighters, Bombers, long range fighters and bombers for tech units and then dive and medium bombers as special or extra units.  Anyway, you get the picture.

Ultimately I plan to buy everything that FMG put out as long as they are complete packages.  I’ll even buy packages that I’m not really interested in such as French units.  Why, because the only way everyone is going to get what they want is to help FMG sell as much of these as possible.  If this means buying set I’m not really interested in, fine.  Or as I mentioned earlier.  I’ll go search for hobby store for FMG to help find new customers to sell them to.  What ever it takes.

FMG could title that set “The WOTC F-up fixer”. I actually think that it is a good idea. If it succeeds, then FMG can continue to produce national sets.