Re: Field Marshal Games Pieces Project Discussion thread

@Brain:

The price point may be an issue for some.

Putting a man on the moon has a fixed cost.  You can’t help that!

We have to sell at a slim profit already considering cost.

@FieldMarshalGames:

@Brain:

The price point may be an issue for some.

Putting a man on the moon has a fixed cost.  You can’t help that!

We have to sell at a slim profit already considering cost.

Not to mention you havn’t even mentioned what the price will be.  ;)

@Imperious:

Should be $30-50 each set, but include the extras.

IL, what do you consider a SET to be?

@Imperious:

This for $50

26 Infantry
12 Artillery
12 Armour
12 Fighters
9 Bombers
12 Submarines
12 Destroyers
9 Cruisers
6 Battleships
6 Aircraft Carriers
12 Transports
NEW
6 Bunkers / Pill Boxes
3 Commander Units
12 Half tracks
12 Trucks
3 Task Force Markers (Like Pacific)
3 ********* Special Surprise

Each National Set would have 171 pcs

I see that you did not include the tactical bombers.

This was the initial wish list going into the project.  It will be almost the same with a few additions and subtractions.

The BUNKERS and TASK FORCE MARKERS will be in the “extras” set that will include ICs / Naval Bases / Air Bases etc etc

We have added Tac Bombers and Transport Planes.

As stated in that old list (Which was done on a study of what is needed for AA50) the sets will include more then enough for each nation.  Individual unit qty will vary from Nation to Nation as each is a separate Sprite.  For instance, we may include more Russian Land units than Naval Units in the USSR set etc…

The cost is being determined now as the final touches are put on ITALY.

PRODUCTION INSIGHT

Each individual sculpt cost us $200 each!  That does not include the cost of Models, Historical research time and shipping of samples back and forth to the sculptor.

Each Nation Mould for injection will cost about $3000

Final production cost / Freight costs / Packaging costs are still being determined and negotiated.

We will make it as affordable as possible, maintaining a margin that will fund the next set.  Once I get to release the final pictures of the set you will all agree I think that they will be worth the time/money and wait we have all endured.

The BUNKERS and TASK FORCE MARKERS will be in the “extras” set that will include ICs / Naval Bases / Air Bases etc etc

So plastic AB and NB are going to be available? I’m sold. Completely and utterly sold.

What’s the current plan for representing them? Just tiles with icons? Or maybe a miniature aircraft control tower/wharf type thing?

PRODUCTION INSIGHT

Each individual sculpt cost us $200 each!  That does not include the cost of Models, Historical research time and shipping of samples back and forth to the sculptor.

Each Nation Mould for injection will cost about $3000

whew - for a moment I thought you meant $3K to make each individual set! Any chance of telling us how much it costs you to get one manufactured, once the moulds are all arranged (just for curiosity’s sake).

No tiles! Control Tower/Wharf, would be great!

when can we pre-order?

And when will the french and ANZAC combat dice be coming out?

I cant wait.

Of course we are not going to use tiles!  Real units only!  For all Pieces.

Glad to hear read it! :-D Of course, even plastic tiles would be 10X better than the thin cardboard ones WotC gave us :roll:

I eagerly await this, but I hope its a little cheaper than what IL is suggesting. If I could get all the pieces together for around $100 that’s doable, but I couldn’t justify spending $50 on each individual nation’s set.

@dannyboy2016:

I eagerly await this, but I hope its a little cheaper than what IL is suggesting. If I could get all the pieces together for around $100 that’s doable, but I couldn’t justify spending $50 on each individual nation’s set.

fifty dollars a set I can buy hole new games with the money I put into six of these sets

@finnman:

@dannyboy2016:

I eagerly await this, but I hope its a little cheaper than what IL is suggesting. If I could get all the pieces together for around $100 that’s doable, but I couldn’t justify spending $50 on each individual nation’s set.

fifty dollars a set I can buy hole new games with the money I put into six of these sets

Then don’t buy it, you saw how much their production costs are.

Price is beyond our control.  This is a community project and it will live or die based on community support.

You asked… we will deliver.

@bennyboyg:

@finnman:

@dannyboy2016:

I eagerly await this, but I hope its a little cheaper than what IL is suggesting. If I could get all the pieces together for around $100 that’s doable, but I couldn’t justify spending $50 on each individual nation’s set.

fifty dollars a set I can buy hole new games with the money I put into six of these sets

Then don’t buy it, you saw how much their production costs are.

As mentioned above, with the mold cost + each individual sculpt x # of sculpts, I’d guesstimate somewhere in the range of $8000 per nation …

To sell cheap enough to get a full set at around $100 (even $15 a set would be $120, and I don’t imagine it will be that low) would require a huge amount of faith in MASSIVE future sales (we’re talking in the range of 500+ of each and every set).  For a project like this, do we believe that more than 500 people will purchase?  I don’t know ……

@Imperious:

the basic set has 13 or so molds $3,000 x13. Then you got to add $200 x 13. Now you got how much each will cost. Then add the extras which would be the same group of perhaps 6 more molds ( $3,000 x 6 and $200 x 6) now you go a true figure

$41,600 for basic divided by $50… they need to sell 832 of these at $50 just to get back the money

Now add the other $19,200 divided by $50 , means 384 additional sets between the other nations just to recapture the investment.

So they need like to sell 1500 of these to make a profit.

But in the long term it will be a great product. All game companies will come to FMG and sign deals to publish games using their pieces. Just like that Napoleon and the Lion game , which uses Viktory II pieces and now other games are coming out in this series. Morrison games which did not sell alot of games, is now really doing well by selling the pieces as standard Napoleonic game parts.

The bottom line is for Jeremy to finish the line and build a platform of being a supplier of these game pieces to many companies to produce new AA style games. Even perhaps going to WOTC and having them buy up the pieces for future AA games.

An official AA game with these pieces could you imagine that. I might buy the pieces I will just need to save up cash.