Yeah, Merry Christmas to yall too.
I think Jesus was born on June 13th. Not for any particular reason, I would just like to get a day off work around that time. Besides, it’s as good as anyone elses guess…
it doesn’t seem like anybodys pissed off. switch thanks for the info, you can learn alot here. i’m not religious at all but i enjoy getting together with family. hey dezrtfish what did you have to do to be # 51 on jenns list. i’d like to see that list am i on it?
it doesn’t seem like anybodys pissed off. switch thanks for the info, you can learn alot here. i’m not religious at all but i enjoy getting together with family. hey dezrtfish what did you have to do to be # 51 on jenns list. i’d like to see that list am i on it?
What list?
And the Catholic Church did arrange for many feasts to land on pagan holidays and incorporate christianified pagan symbols. It was easier to convert the locals that way. Besides, it’s amazing, but most of the feasts in common usage world wide land in the same times frames…just after harvest, just before winter kicks into high gear. So from an anthropological stance it only makes sense to keep the same feast times (Harvest/Thanksgiving/Easter/Spring, etc) because they are placed there for both convenience and logical reasons.
BTW, AFAIK, if the conversion of heathenous holidays saved but one soul, it was worth it.
I should probably drop it, I seem to be the only one who thought it was funny. My real name is #51 on the list Jen made in this Post:
William Cook? Or did I miscount?
That would be me 8-)
so, of course educated catholics from a good catholic school know that stuff switch. that stuff only works trying to work over an urban liberal who doesnt know anything and you tell them that stuff trying to get them mad at christianity. but the educated ones already know all the pagan things in early christianity.
as jen said, if it saves one pagan soul it was worth it. some people are in the business of spreading the good news of christ and leading them to the path. (i dont neccessarily deem it neccessary for soul saving however).
Gee, when I said it it didn’t seem so hateful. I don’t hate pagans. Even if they are heathens I don’t hate them. But if we can bring the love of christ to the heart of just one more man by altering a current holiday and christianizing it, then where’s the harm? You still have your holiday and God has one more soul!
knock, knock, knock
[door opens and standing outside are young people, mostly female, in long flowing robes]
“Hi, we are from your neighborhood Coven. Has anyone brought you the Word of the Goddess today?”
Damn, I am so glad that that never happens :-)
As far as stealing Pagan symbols, the Yule Tree has to be one of the best. Martin Luther decided to ADOPT this very Pagan symbol that was very popular in Germany and attach it to his heresy in order to draw on German Nationalism to help his heresy grow and flourish. Yule Trees are about as Pagan as Pagan can get.
Im pretty sure Jesus was born on July 2nd.
good thing for it, i love christmas trees.
how does anyone know exactly when jesus was born. or are these best guesses.
I agree, Switch. Yule trees are very pagan/heathenous. But they’ve been adopted and given a Christian meaning (the point at the top represents the star that shown down on the baby Jesus.)
And yes, these are best guesses, no one knows the exact date Jesus was born anymore. It’s rather irrellevant.
All guesses.
From Luke we have arguments for both April and September.
From the Catholic Chruch and subsequent convention December.
Let’s just make it April 15 and be done with it :-P
Well Jully 2nd makes sense. The Shepards where out at night with their flocks, and they certainly wouldnt have been doing so in december, they would be more likely to pasture their flocks at night instead of the heat of the day.
Aside from that I was talking to Jesus the other day (we are pretty tight) And he told me its July 2nd.
I still say we make it April 15.
Taxes and Christmas. Hate and Love.
Of course, the Post Office would go INSANE! LOL
Well belive what you want, but I got it from the horses mouth.
Well, I just communed with the Goddess, and she SWEARS that she gave birth to the male divine entity on April 15 :-P
And I think that we can trust a MOTHER to tell us what day she gave birth!
:mrgreen:
I’d sonner make do the following:
1. Make it illegal to have tax withholdings. Save your money and pay with one big check at the end of the year.
2. Taxes are due no later then 11:59PM EST December 31st. (Like, you know, the end of the year?)
3. Christmas can be moved to May 5th. Let’s screw with the Mexicans!
