Operation Dark Skies JamesAleman(axis) vs Allweneedislove

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 6 bombers and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Shantung

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Shantung
            Battle in Kiangsu
            Battle in Kwangtung
            Battle in French Indo China
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Italians lost in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans win, taking Shantung from Japanese, taking Kiangsu from Japanese, taking Kwangtung from Japanese, taking French Indo China from Japanese, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Italians with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Americans
            2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone
            6 bombers moved from Western United States to Morocco
            1 destroyer moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            6 destroyers and 3 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Midway to Western United States
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 33 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            6 bombers and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 56 PUs; end with 58 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 83 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

Caroline Islands : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    Shantung : 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Kiangsu : 2 infantry
    Kwangtung : 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Queensland : 1 bomber
    Philippines : 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Guam : 1 airfield
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 1 tactical_bomber
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    Midway : 1 airfield
    French Indo China : 1 flag, 1 armour and 1 infantry
    36 Sea Zone : 1 submarine and 1 transport
    26 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    20 Sea Zone : 2 submarines and 1 transport
    19 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 2 fighters, 3 submarines and 2 transports
    6 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 8 destroyers, 2 fighters and 3 submarines
    Central United States : 4 aaGuns, 1 factory_major and 2 mech_infantrys
    Eastern United States : 1 airfield, 6 bombers, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 mech_infantry
    Morocco : 6 bombers
    Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    107 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    110 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 8 destroyers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 50 / 72
    Russians : 18 / 0
    Japanese : 31 / 41
    Americans : 56 / 83
    Chinese : 11 / 8
    British : 40 / 53
    UK_Pacific : 23 / 22
    Italians : 14 / 15
    ANZAC : 14 / 25
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Jehol
                  Chinese take Jehol from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
                  Chinese take Szechwan from Japanese
            4 infantry moved from Shensi to Sikang
            8 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar
            1 fighter moved from Burma to Kweichow

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Sikang
                Chinese attack with 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Sikang, round 2 :  0/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sikang, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Sikang, round 3 :  1/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Sikang, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Sikang
                Chinese win, taking Sikang from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Kweichow
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 8 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 8 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 :  2/9 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow
                Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 1 fighter and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Burma

Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Jehol

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 15 PUs; end with 17 PUs total

Territory Summary for Chinese :

Jehol : 3 infantry
    Kweichow : 8 infantry
    Szechwan : 1 infantry
    Chahar : 1 infantry
    Sikang : 3 infantry
    Burma : 1 fighter

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 50 / 72
    Russians : 18 / 0
    Japanese : 27 / 41
    Americans : 56 / 83
    Chinese : 15 / 17
    British : 40 / 53
    UK_Pacific : 23 / 22
    Italians : 14 / 15
    ANZAC : 14 / 25
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 5 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
                  British take Romania from Germans
            1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Burma to Yunnan
            4 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Burma to Shan State

Combat - British
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                British attack with 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 2 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  3/8 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Holland Belgium
                British win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                British attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
                Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Yunnan, round 2 :  0/6 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Yunnan, round 3 :  0/6 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys in Yunnan, round 4 :  2/5 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 4 :  2/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British , 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the British lost in Yunnan
                British win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in Shan State
                British attack with 4 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 9 infantry
                    British roll dice for 4 artilleries, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Shan State, round 2 :  3/20 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 9 infantry in Shan State, round 2 :  3/11 hits
                    3 infantry owned by the British , 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 aaGun owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State
                    British roll dice for 4 artilleries, 12 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Shan State, round 3 :  5/17 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 7 infantry in Shan State, round 3 :  4/9 hits
                    4 infantry owned by the British and 5 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State
                    British roll dice for 4 artilleries, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Shan State, round 4 :  4/13 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Shan State, round 4 :  1/4 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British , 1 armour owned by the Japanese , 2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State
                British win, taking Shan State from Japanese with 4 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 9 infantry
                Casualties for British: 8 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to Persia
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from India to Iraq
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Syria to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            1 aaGun moved from Burma to India
            1 aaGun moved from Burma to India
            2 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to United Kingdom

Place Units - British
            1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 2 fighters placed in 110 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 46 PUs; end with 47 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            5 mech_infantrys placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3,4,4,5,6,3,5,3,1,4,5,1,6,6,4,3,6,1,3,5,6
            UK_Pacific collect 21 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 23 PUs total
            Objective UK Pacific 2 Kwangtung And Malaya: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 28 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 5 mech_infantrys

Territory Summary for British, UK_Pacific :

Yunnan : 3 mech_infantrys
    Shan State : 4 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    India : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour, 8 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys
    Malaya : 1 harbour
    Kwangtung : 1 harbour
    Celebes : 1 flag
    Sumatra : 1 flag
    Iceland : 1 airfield
    Quebec : 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
    Trans-Jordan : 1 infantry
    Alexandria : 1 infantry
    Gibraltar : 1 harbour
    New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 harbour
    Egypt : 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Union of South Africa : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Scotland : 1 airfield
    United Kingdom : 5 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 1 infantry
    Romania : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Holland Belgium : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Tobruk : 1 flag
    Albania : 1 flag
    Libya : 1 flag
    Italian Somaliland : 1 flag
    Ethiopia : 1 flag
    93 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 submarine
    Eire : 1 flag
    Bulgaria : 1 flag
    109 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Greece : 1 flag, 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
    97 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 3 submarines
    Iraq : 1 flag, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
    Eastern Persia : 1 flag
    Brazil : 1 flag
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag
    Persia : 1 flag, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
    98 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    Suriname : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    110 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 6 destroyers, 4 fighters and 4 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 44 / 72
    Russians : 18 / 0
    Japanese : 25 / 41
    Americans : 56 / 83
    Chinese : 16 / 17
    British : 46 / 52
    UK_Pacific : 24 / 28
    Italians : 14 / 15
    ANZAC : 14 / 25
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[gamerman01]

James, you picked a guy for the test game who likes to darken the skies himself.
6 in Morocco and 6 in EUS, eh?
Does this even count as a test game?
J/K - it still counts because you are demonstrating what it’s like when Germany has all these bombers.

Now the $1,000 question is, can you get 8 cities and hold 8 throughout a round of play?  It would be a no-doubter except that Japan was so weak and even UK Pacific is raking in the cash.

If you had strength on the Pacific board like Allweneed did against me, there would be no doubt.  But as it is, I have faith that Allweneed can at least snipe a city here or there to keep you from holding 8 for a full round, and with the Pacific board in shambles, you may not even have the economic edge, so as long as Allweneed can stave off the Europe victory, I think he takes the game.  But I haven’t watched all the moves between round 4 and 6…

Really just trying to say that your bomber strat has a lot more teeth if you play Pacific better.
British with 52 (and UK Pac with 28), USA with 83, and fleet in 110, appears at a glance the Allies are in it.
Also at a glance, it appears the German stack in Tambov can only advance with Italy’s help.  ANZ might be able to stop the German advance, although the plan to get to Egypt with Japan is obvious.  But with 12 American bombers coming, will the landing party just get blasted?
I guess Allweneed is fighting fire with fire.

Lastly, I would say that obviously James has skills, or he wouldn’t have made it this far.  I don’t care what your gimmicky strat is, if you don’t have some serious skills you won’t be hanging with a guy who’s currently on top of the standings over about 50 players.

[JamesAleman]

@Gamerman01:

James, you picked a guy for the test game who likes to darken the skies himself.
6 in Morocco and 6 in EUS, eh?
Does this even count as a test game?
J/K - it still counts because you are demonstrating what it’s like when Germany has all these bombers.

Now the $1,000 question is, can you get 8 cities and hold 8 throughout a round of play?  It would be a no-doubter except that Japan was so weak and even UK Pacific is raking in the cash.

If you had strength on the Pacific board like Allweneed did against me, there would be no doubt.  But as it is, I have faith that Allweneed can at least snipe a city here or there to keep you from holding 8 for a full round, and with the Pacific board in shambles, you may not even have the economic edge, so as long as Allweneed can stave off the Europe victory, I think he takes the game.  But I haven’t watched all the moves between round 4 and 6…

Really just trying to say that your bomber strat has a lot more teeth if you play Pacific better.
British with 52 (and UK Pac with 28), USA with 83, and fleet in 110, appears at a glance the Allies are in it.
Also at a glance, it appears the German stack in Tambov can only advance with Italy’s help.  ANZ might be able to stop the German advance, although the plan to get to Egypt with Japan is obvious.  But with 12 American bombers coming, will the landing party just get blasted?
I guess Allweneed is fighting fire with fire.

Lastly, I would say that obviously James has skills, or he wouldn’t have made it this far.  I don’t care what your gimmicky strat is, if you don’t have some serious skills you won’t be hanging with a guy who’s currently on top of the standings over about 50 players.

The reason Japan looks so weak is because I was demonstrating a bomber build with both nations. I am still refining Japan, You don’t have to go bombers with Japan. If I don’t, it is easier to pressure both sides, agreed. Wait until turn 8, then check back with me. Thank you for your assessment of my skills. I like to think I can hold my own ;)

Remember, Italy could have taken Russia on turn 4! (Not the best result since I prefer Germany to have it. But how often do you see Italy with this option in your games? He also fought tooth and nail to prevent my access to the factories early, that is why I am in Moscow before the factories. I am saying either way, the Europe board is quite secure.

[JamesAleman]

Also, my original concept called for a Japan turn 1 naval base and a landing in Egypt turn 4 with this strategy, but it was deemed unwise to sacrifice Japan needlessly.

[JamesAleman]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Albania
                  Italians take Albania from British
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria
                  Italians take Bulgaria from British
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria
            2 armour moved from Tambov to Rostov
            1 armour moved from Tambov to Vologda
                  Italians take Vologda from Russians
            3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            4 fighters moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Rostov

[JamesAleman]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Albania
                  Italians take Albania from British
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria
                  Italians take Bulgaria from British
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria
            2 armour moved from Tambov to Rostov
            1 armour moved from Tambov to Vologda
                  Italians take Vologda from Russians
            3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            4 fighters moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Rostov

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Karelia
                Italians attack with 3 artilleries and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Karelia from Russians with 3 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys
                Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Americans with 1 bomber, 4 fighters and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Rostov
                Italians attack with 2 armour and 1 bomber
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Rostov from Russians with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 armour

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Rostov to Russia
            1 aaGun moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria
            1 aaGun moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy
            3 infantry moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Northern Italy
            1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany

Place Units - Italians
            1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 6
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,5,1,3,1,6
            Italians collect 16 PUs (6 lost to blockades); end with 16 PUs total

[Auswanderersland]

@Gamerman01:

James, you picked a guy for the test game who likes to darken the skies himself.
6 in Morocco and 6 in EUS, eh?
Does this even count as a test game?
J/K - it still counts because you are demonstrating what it’s like when Germany has all these bombers.

Now the $1,000 question is, can you get 8 cities and hold 8 throughout a round of play?  It would be a no-doubter except that Japan was so weak and even UK Pacific is raking in the cash.

If you had strength on the Pacific board like Allweneed did against me, there would be no doubt.  But as it is, I have faith that Allweneed can at least snipe a city here or there to keep you from holding 8 for a full round, and with the Pacific board in shambles, you may not even have the economic edge, so as long as Allweneed can stave off the Europe victory, I think he takes the game.  But I haven’t watched all the moves between round 4 and 6…

Really just trying to say that your bomber strat has a lot more teeth if you play Pacific better.
British with 52 (and UK Pac with 28), USA with 83, and fleet in 110, appears at a glance the Allies are in it.
Also at a glance, it appears the German stack in Tambov can only advance with Italy’s help.  ANZ might be able to stop the German advance, although the plan to get to Egypt with Japan is obvious.  But with 12 American bombers coming, will the landing party just get blasted?
I guess Allweneed is fighting fire with fire.

Lastly, I would say that obviously James has skills, or he wouldn’t have made it this far.  I don’t care what your gimmicky strat is, if you don’t have some serious skills you won’t be hanging with a guy who’s currently on top of the standings over about 50 players.

Bombers are quite effective in Europe for both sides, just extraordinarily moreso for Germany.  Japan, the bomber strat can be effective, however, we are gravitating more towards a conventional/fleet/factory/…bomber on the side strat.  The reason Japan is struggling is simply the lack of starting pieces on the ground.  And lets be clear, Japan isn’t struggling, they were fine - granted not as far along as they could have been with conventional builds, however, JJ decided to go for the turn 8 capture of 8vc.  I believe Allweneedislove’s response lends itself toward the power of bombers.  With 12 bombers now on the board he redeploys one turn and he can hit most targets in Europe/NAfrica.  The 1000usd question is…are those bombers going to get there in time?

The bombers for Germany ramp up the timeframe for sacking Moscow/lockdown.  That being said…I still believe that holding Russia/1 city in Russia(doesn’t need to be Moscow necessarily) is key for funneling Russia defense - even without the motherland.  Also, don’t forget that all bombers is not necessarily the most optimum response for any Axis power.  It depends on the board as in any game.  However, I’ve yet to see a build more powerful then bombers the first 3-4 rounds for Germany.

[gamerman01]

I appreciate the responses

One of the big reasons I posted was so I would get notifications when moves were made  :-)

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 2 bombers; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 destroyers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
                  ANZAC take 35 Sea Zone from Japanese
            1 fighter moved from Burma to 38 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Manchuria
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsi
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Kiangsi
            Battle in Kwangsi
            Battle in Manchuria
            Battle in 38 Sea Zone
                ANZAC attack with 2 destroyers and 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 38 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 2 destroyers and 1 fighter in 38 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 38 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Japanese , 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone
                ANZAC win, taking Kiangsi from Japanese, taking Kwangsi from Japanese, taking Manchuria from Japanese with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 fighter moved from 38 Sea Zone to India
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Burma to India
            2 fighters moved from India to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            3 destroyers moved from 62 Sea Zone to 66 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 3 destroyers moved from 34 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            2 bombers placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs total
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs

Territory Summary for ANZAC :

Kwangsi : 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Kiangsi : 2 infantry
    Manchuria : 2 infantry
    India : 1 aaGun, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
    Queensland : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    New Zealand : 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    New South Wales : 2 bombers, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Java : 1 flag
    Dutch New Guinea : 1 flag
    36 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    35 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    38 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    20 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    19 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers and 1 transport
    55 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    66 Sea Zone : 3 destroyers
    Iraq : 2 fighters and 1 infantry
    Northwest Persia : 1 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 44 / 72
    Russians : 14 / 0
    Japanese : 20 / 41
    Americans : 54 / 83
    Chinese : 21 / 17
    British : 44 / 52
    UK_Pacific : 24 / 28
    Italians : 22 / 16
    ANZAC : 14 / 25
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk
            1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

Territory Summary for French :

United Kingdom : 2 infantry
    Tobruk : 1 infantry
    Libya : 1 infantry
    Iraq : 1 infantry
    Northwest Persia : 1 infantry
    98 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    110 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 44 / 72
    Russians : 14 / 0
    Japanese : 20 / 41
    Americans : 54 / 83
    Chinese : 21 / 17
    British : 44 / 52
    UK_Pacific : 24 / 28
    Italians : 22 / 16
    ANZAC : 14 / 25
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[JamesAleman]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 7

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 4 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Tambov to Volgograd
                  Germans take Volgograd from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Tambov to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Vyborg
            2 bombers moved from Tambov to Samara
            2 bombers moved from Tambov to Vyborg
            2 bombers moved from Germany to Romania
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Romania
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania
            1 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
            1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium
            1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Holland Belgium
            3 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            7 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom

[JamesAleman]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 7

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 4 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Tambov to Volgograd
                  Germans take Volgograd from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Tambov to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Vyborg
            2 bombers moved from Tambov to Samara
            2 bombers moved from Tambov to Vyborg
            2 bombers moved from Germany to Romania
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Romania
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania
            1 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
            1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium
            1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Holland Belgium
            3 fighters moved from 113 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            7 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                British defend with 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in Romania
                Germans attack with 3 bombers and 2 mech_infantrys
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Romania from British with 3 bombers and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Samara
                Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Samara from Russians with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Vyborg
                Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Air Battle in United Kingdom
                Germans attacks with 7 units heading to United Kingdom
                Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
            Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 5 and causes: 5 damage to unit: airfield
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 5,5,6,4,8 and causes: 20 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 5 and causes: 5 damage to unit: harbour
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 30 damage total.  Damaged units is as follows: airfield = 5, factory_major = 20, harbour = 5
            Cleaning up after air battles

Non Combat Move - Germans
            3 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            7 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
            3 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany
            3 aaGuns moved from Germany to Western Germany
            3 bombers moved from Romania to Western Germany
            4 tactical_bombers moved from Tambov to Novgorod
            3 fighters moved from Tambov to Novgorod
            2 bombers moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            2 bombers moved from Samara to Novgorod
            1 aaGun, 9 armour, 5 artilleries, 14 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Tambov to Rostov
            1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Rostov
            3 armour moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
            1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Western Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Samara

Place Units - Germans
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Ukraine
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
            4 infantry placed in Western Germany
            1 carrier and 2 destroyers placed in 113 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1
            Germans collect 50 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 50 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 70 PUs

[JamesAleman]

I figured you were not going to intercept against 7 bombers, if you do, just use the forum roller and remove the air base bomber first, then the Naval base, then the last bomber on damage (in case you hit all three).

Sorry, just trying to save time.

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 7

Combat Move - Russians
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Volgograd

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Volgograd
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                Russians win, taking Volgograd from Germans with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            2 armour and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Iraq
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Kazakhstan
            2 aaGuns, 10 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Chahar to Jehol
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Hopei to Chahar

Turn Complete - Russians

Territory Summary for Russians :

Jehol : 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
    Chahar : 1 aaGun and 2 infantry
    Soviet Far East : 1 infantry
    Kazakhstan : 1 infantry
    Olgiy : 1 flag
    Dzavhan : 1 flag
    Central Mongolia : 1 flag
    Buyant-Uhaa : 1 flag
    Ulaanbaatar : 1 flag
    Tsagaan Olom : 1 flag
    Volgograd : 1 artillery and 1 factory_minor
    Iraq : 2 armour, 3 fighters, 7 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
    Northwest Persia : 2 aaGuns, 10 artilleries and 20 infantry
    110 Sea Zone : 1 submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 51 / 70
    Russians : 13 / 0
    Japanese : 20 / 41
    Americans : 54 / 83
    Chinese : 21 / 17
    British : 38 / 52
    UK_Pacific : 24 / 28
    Italians : 22 / 16
    ANZAC : 14 / 25
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[JamesAleman]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 fighter moved from 39 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 39 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            2 battleships, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 36 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 20 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Shantung
            1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
                  Japanese take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Sakha
                  Japanese take Sakha from Russians

[JamesAleman]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 fighter moved from 39 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 39 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            2 battleships, 4 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 36 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 20 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Shantung
            1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
                  Japanese take Yakut S.S.R. from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Sakha
                  Japanese take Sakha from Russians

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 38 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 20 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport; Americans defend with 2 submarines and 1 transport
                2 submarines owned by the Americans Submerged
                Japanese win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in 36 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport; Americans defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport
                1 submarine owned by the Americans Submerged
                Japanese win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in Shantung
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Americans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Shantung from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Malaya
            Battle in Shan State
                Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 4 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 4 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Anhwe to Shantung
            5 bombers moved from Russia to Siam
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Korea
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to Korea
            2 aaGuns and 3 infantry moved from Amur to Korea
            5 fighters moved from Japan to Korea
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Korea
            2 fighters moved from Japan to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to Siam
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to Siam

Place Units - Japanese
            1 factory_minor placed in Korea
            1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 15
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 20 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,2,6,2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 19 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,3,5,6,1,2,2,6,5,6,3,6,2,6,3,1,4,5,2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3,1,4,1,3,4,2,2,6,5,2,5,1,2,3,1,4,4
            Japanese collect 13 PUs (15 lost to blockades); end with 16 PUs total

[JamesAleman]

Do me a favor and move a ftr and tac from Siam to the carrier fleet please.

I couldn’t play Japan and Italy any worse, that is the power of the German bomber strategy.

[JamesAleman]

I’m also eating my words about 3 turns, I’m deciding I’ll give reviving Japan a go to see if it can be done, I think Germany is ok for now. (Watch me lose Berlin ;) )