As i mentioned in another topic, I would make a list of all the setup changes from OOB to Alpha +.2 for the Europe 1940 game.
I will appreciate if you mention any mistakes I’ve made :)
Here it is:
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Changes made by the Alpha +.2 modifications to Axis and Allies Europe 1940
Turnorder:
USA moves up before UK, so you get:
1. Germany
2. Soviet Union
3. United States
4. United Kingdom
5. Italy
6. France
National Setup by Country:
Germany:
Germany’s changes are in total:
+7 Infantry
+1 Artillery
+2 Tactical bombers
-1 Minor IC
+1 Major IC (Minor IC gets upgraded)
So it ends up being like this(the red is the changes from OOB made by Alpha +.2):
Holland/Belgium: 4 Infantry, 2(+1) Artillery, 3 tanks, 1 Fighter
Western Germany: 3(+1) Infantry, 1 Artillery, 4 Mech Infantry, 2 Fighters, 3 Tac bombers, 1 AA gun, 1 Major IC, 1 Naval base, 1 Airbase
Greater Southern Germany: 6 Infantry, 2(+1) Artillery, 2 tanks
Germany: 11(+5) Infantry, 3(-1) artillery, 1(+1) Tac Bomber, 1 Bomber, 1(upgraded from a Minor IC) Major IC, 1 AA gun
Slovakia/Hungary: 2 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Fighter
Poland: 3 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Tac Bomber
Romania: 2 Infantry, 1 Tank
Norway: 2 Infantry, 1 Fighter
Denmark: 2(+1) Infantry
Sea Zone 103: 1 Sub
Sea Zone 108: 1 Sub
Sea Zone 113: 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship, Transport
Sea Zone 117: 1 Sub
Sea Zone 118: 1 Sub
Sea Zone 124: 1 Sub
Russia
Russia’s changes are in total:
So it ends up being like this:
Karelia: 2 Infantry
Archangel: 1 Infantry
Russia: 1(+1) Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 tank, 1 Fighter, 1 Tac Bomber, 1 AA Gun, 1 Airbase, 1 Major IC
Volgograd: 1 tank, 1 Mech Infantry, 1 Minor IC
Caucasus: 2(+1) Infantry
Bessarabia: 2 Infantry
Western Ukraine: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery
Eastern Poland: 2(-1) Infantry
Baltic States: 3 Infantry
Belarus: 1 Infantry
Novgorod: 6 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Fighter, 1 AA Gun, 1 Airbase, 1 Naval Base, 1 Minor IC
Vyborg: 3(+1) Infantry
Ukraine: 3(+3) Infantry, 1(+1) Minor IC
Sea Zone 115: 1 Battleship, 1(originally a transport) submarine
Sea Zone 127: 1 Sub
United Kingdom
United Kingdoms changes are in total:
+5 Infantry
+1 Mech Infantry
-1 Tank
+2 Fighter
+1 AA Gun
+2 Airbase
Many of the UK warships has been moved to other seazones (I haven’t listet these changes, but you are welcome to post them, if you count the changes :-))
So it ends up being like this:
Ontario: 1 Infantry, 1(+1) Artillery
Quebec: 1 Infantry, 1 Tank, 1 Minor IC
New Brunswick Nova Scotia: 1 Naval Base
Iceland: 1 Airbase
United Kingdom: 2(+1) Infantry, 2(-1) Fighters, 1 AA gun, 1 Airbase, 1 Naval Base, 1 Major IC
France: 1 Infantry (-1 Artillery and -1 Tank)
Normandy/Bordeaux: 1(+1) Infantry, 1(+1) Fighter
Gibraltar: 1(+1) fighter, 1 Airbase, 1 Naval Base
Malta: 1(+1) Infantry, 1(+1) Fighter, 1(+1) AA gun, 1(+1) Airbase
Alexandria: 2 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Tank, (-1 Fighter)
Egypt: 2(+1) Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1(+1) Mech Infantry, 1 Naval Base
Anglo-Egyptian Sudan: 1 Infantry
Union of South Africa: 2 Infantry, 1 Naval Base, 1 Minor IC
West India: 1 Infantry
Scotland: 1(+1) Infantry, 1(+1) Fighter, 1(+1) Airbase
Sea Zone 71: 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 91: 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 98: 1 Cruiser, 1 Destroyer, 1 Carrier w/1 Tac Bomber, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 106: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 109: 1 Destroyer, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 110: 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 111: 1 Destroyer, 1 Battleship
Sea Zone 112: 1 Cruise
Italy
Italy’s changes are in total:
+2 Infantry
+2 Artillery
-1 Mech Infantry
+1 Tactical bomber
+1 Destroyer
+1 Submarine
+1 Transport
So it ends up being like this:
Northern Italy: 2 Infantry, 2 Artillery, 1 tank, 1 Fighter, 1(+1) Tac Bomber, 1 AA Gun, 1 Major IC, (-1 Airbase)
Southern Italy: 6(+4) Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 AA Gun, 1 Naval Base, 1(+1) Airbase, 1 Minor IC Albania: 2 Infantry, 1 tank
Italian Somaliland: 1 Infantry
Ethiopia : 2 Infantry, 1(+1) Artillery
Libya: 1(-1) Infantry, 1(+1) Artillery
Tobruk: 3(-1) Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1(-1) Mech Infantry, 1 tank
Sea Zone 95: 2(+1) Destroyer, 1 Cruiser, 1(+1) Sub, 1 Transport
Sea Zone 97: 1 Cruiser, 1 Battleship, 2(+1) Transport
United States
United States’ changes are in total:
+2 Mech Infantry
+1 AA Gun
+1 Cruiser
-1 Destroyer (gets swaped for the destroyer)
-2 Major IC (gets swaped Major IC)
+2 Minor IC
So it ends up being like this:
Eastern United States: 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter, 1 Artillery, 1(+1) AA Gun, 1 Airbase, 1 Naval Base, 1(+1) Minor IC, (-1 Tank, - 1 Major IC)
Central United States: 1 Infantry, 3(+2) Mech Infantry, 1(+1) Tank, 1 Bomber, 1(+1) Minor IC, (-1 Major IC)
Sea Zone 101: 1(+1) Cruiser, 1 Transport, (-1 Destroyer)
France
France’s changes are in total:
+1 Artillery
+2 Tanks
+1 Fighter
+1 Minor IC
So it ends up being like this:
France: 6 Infantry, 2(+1) Artillery, 2(+1) Tanks, 1 Fighter, 1 Airbase, 1 Major IC
Normandy/Bordeaux: 1 Infantry, 1(+1) tank, 1 Naval Base, 1 Minor IC
Southern France: 1 Infantry, 1 Artillery, 1 Naval Base, 1(+1) Minor IC
United Kingdom: 1 infantry, 1(+1) fighter
Syria: 1 Infantry
Tunisia: 1 Infantry
Morocco: 1 Infantry
Algeria: 1 Infantry
French West Africa: 1 Infantry
Sea Zone 72: 1 Destroyer
Sea Zone 93: 1 Destroyer, 1 Cruiser
Sea Zone 112: 1 Cruiser
National objectives by Country (These replaces all NO’s from OOB):
Germany
When Germany is not at War with the Soviet Union
1. Collect 5 IPCs per turn for not being at war with the Soviet Union. Theme: Wheat & Oil trade with Russia
When Germany is at War with the Soviet Union
2. Collect 5 IPCs per turn for EACH of the following territories, Novgorod (Leningrad), Volgograd (Stalingrad), and/or Russia (Moscow) controlled by the Axis. Theme: High strategic and propaganda value.
3. Collect 5 IPCs per turn if Germany controls Caucasus. Theme: Access and control of vital Russian Oil production.
When Germany is at War with the Allies
4. Collect 5 IPCs per turn if there is at least one German land unit in an Axis controlled Egypt. Theme: Gateway to the Middle-East Oil fields (high propaganda value).
5. Collect 5 IPC per turn if Germany controls both Denmark and Norway while Sweden is not pro-Allies or Allied-controlled. Theme: Access to Iron Ore and other strategic resources.
6. Collect 5 IPCs per turn that Germany controls the United Kingdom. Theme: High national prestige.
7. Collect 2 IPCs per turn for each of the following three territories that Germany controls: Iraq, Persia and Northwest Persia. Theme: Access to strategic oil reserves.
Soviet Union
When the Soviet Union is at War in Europe
1. Collect 3 IPCs per turn for each original German territory the Soviet Union controls. Theme: Propaganda value.
2. Collect 5 IPCs if the convoy in sea zone 125 is free of Axis Warships. Archangel is controlled by the Soviet Union, and there are no units belonging to any other Allied powers present in any territories originally controlled by the Soviet Union. Theme: National prestige and access to Allied lend lease material.
3. Collect 10 IPCs, once, for Soviet capture of Berlin (Germany). Theme: National prestige.
United Kingdom
When the United Kingdom is at War with Germany/Italy
1. Collect 5 IPCs per turn if there are no German submarines on the Europe map with the following exceptions: The Baltic Sea (113 -114 -115). The Black Sea (100) and of course the Caspian Sea. Theme: Being an island nation the UK gains a strategic advantage with low German submarine activities directed against its merchant fleet.
2. Collect 5 IPCs per turn if the United Kingdom controls all of its original territories in North America, Africa, and Europe. Theme: Maintenance of the empire considered vital national objective.
Italy
When Italy is at War
1. Collect 5 IPCs per turn if Axis powers control 3 of these 4 territories: Egypt, Southern France, Greece, Gibraltar. Theme: Stated national objectives – Greater Roman empire.
2. Collect 5 IPCs per turn if there are no Allied surface warships in the Mediterranean Sea (sea zones 92 through 99). Theme: Propaganda and strategic advantage.
3. Collect 5 IPCs if Axis powers control all of the following North African territories:
Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Tobruk, Alexandria. Theme: Stated North African military objectives.
4. Collect 5 IPCs per turn if Italy controls Caucasus. Theme: Access and control of vital Russian Oil production.
5. Collect 2 IPCs per turn for each of the following three territories Italy controls: Iraq, Persia and Northwest Persia. Theme: Access to strategic oil reserves.
United States
When at War
1. Collect 10 IPCs per turn for complete control of the continental US (CUS, EUS). Theme: Basic national sovereignty.
5. Collect 5 IPCs per turn for controlling, Southern Mexico, Central America (Panama) and the West indies. Theme: Defense treaty & trade obligations.
France
When France is at War
Troop Bonus: When the territory of France is liberated, for the first time only, the player controlling this territory immediately places up to 12 IPCs worth of any units on the territory of France. Theme: National liberation & national prestige.
National objectives by Country (I think these goes instead of the OOB NO’s, but Kriegshound may clarify this):
Yup.
(4. Collect 5 IPC per turn for being at war with Germany. Theme “Lend Lease agreement”) - is this NO a real one, or am I just making it up in my mind? Kriegshound, please clarify :)
You made this one up all by yourself.
I dont know how I could have done so, but i guess I have a good imagination. But I’m sure that it is something I have read somewhere :)
I have updated the list.
I can’t believe I made everything right, but I guess I must have, since nobody has corrected anything :D :)
Pretty nice buddy, good job!
USA moves up before UK, so you get:
1. Germany
2. Soviet Union
3. United States
4. United Kingdom
5. Italy
6. France
This is a even worst turn order than in Global Alpha. It was enough bad in that game, but at least it has the virtue of preventing can openers against Japan. In E40, simply is unnecesary and pretty annoying: it doesn’t mean the all Axis-all Allies that someone want (I not) and yet it makes long delays for PBEM game. This single reason, the turn order, is enough to me to say that I’m not going to play the alpha series in all my life (the useless french turn is the bigger pain for PBEM games) why don’t let play USA+France togheter as it was good in OOB? On the other side, 3 consecutive big powers are more that I can play in a lone row, even 1 to 1 face to face
OOB was way superior in this particular issue: one big power + 1 or 2 minor powers consecutive … it cannot be another way, and to prevent can openers (not really needed because ANZAC before USA meant coordination issues that balanced the can opener), just the turn order for G40 should be:
1 Germany
2 USSR
3 Japan
4 UK
5 China
6 Italy
7 USA
8 ANZAC
9 France
Can opener solved (I’d put China before Japan but I can live this way), and PBEM game is not damaged
This is getting absurd. now we are even changing the turn order? Changing major flaws (such as the minor IC in Germany and Japan having 28 planes) is one thing, constantly switching national objectives and the games turn order is something else. Simple is always better and the simplest way to make the game balanced is to follow the alpha 2 set up changes to Germany and Japan and ignore the other crap. Or, just find your own way to make Germany stronger and Japan weaker. I am a hardcore Axis and Allies fan/player and i can’t even keep up with the freaking changes to the game.
National objectives by Country (I think these goes instead of the OOB NO’s, but Kriegshound may clarify this):
Yup.
(4. Collect 5 IPC per turn for being at war with Germany. Theme “Lend Lease agreement”) - is this NO a real one, or am I just making it up in my mind? Kriegshound, please clarify :)
You made this one up all by yourself.
WHAT! I DIDN"T Krieghund WAS ON THIS FORUM! COOL!
This is getting absurd. now we are even changing the turn order? Changing major flaws (such as the minor IC in Germany and Japan having 28 planes) is one thing, constantly switching national objectives and the games turn order is something else. Simple is always better and the simplest way to make the game balanced is to follow the alpha 2 set up changes to Germany and Japan and ignore the other crap. Or, just find your own way to make Germany stronger and Japan weaker. I am a hardcore Axis and Allies fan/player and i can’t even keep up with the freaking changes to the game.
Actually, I think that the minor IC for East Germany is good, but I agree that Japan has too much planes. Also, I miss old days when one bought things and the things were complete
Does the turn order remain with the US going before the UK or has that been rescinded?
I was under the impression Alpha 2+ was:
Germany
Russia
UK
Italy
US
France
Kreighund?
The turn order listed at the top of the thread is correct.
Hi Guys,
I see in the changes listed above that the USSR gets +9 IPC. I have reviewed the alpha+2 rules, as posted by Larry, and I haven’t been able to see that anywhere. I presume it is my mistake.
Is it a one of +9IPC in the begining of the game, or are some territories just worth more, or might it be a mistake in this post?
The rules posted by Larry are for the Global game only. What’s posted here is the “best guess” of what the rules for Europe will look like based on those changes. It is unofficial at this point.
