• Well I haven’t even read the Alpha3 rules yet, and they sound confusing.

    But until Alpha3, it was fairly simple. During the collect income phase, both players are supposed to check for convoy disruptions (page 22, Europe manual).

    I thought the rules on page 22 were very clear… What don’t you understand?

    Say you are the UK. When collecting income you need to check all of the coastal territories that you own. If there are any enemy warships in sea zones bordering your territories, then you need to check for a convoy symbol in the zone. If there is a symbol, then you count the number of surface warships and deduct one IPC from your income for each enemy surface warship in convoy zones bordering your income producing territories. Deduct two for each enemy submarine. You cannot lose more than the value of the territory being raided, so if there was a German destroyer and 2 German carriers in Z119 at the end of your turn, you would deduct 2 IPC’s from your income total, because you are losing all the income for Scotland, which is worth 2. Normally a destroyer and 2 carriers would disrupt 3 IPC’s worth of income, but it is capped at 2 because Scotland is only worth 2.


  • Oh my, these are quite simple. Thank you so much kind sir. I guess just the way they worded the rules confused me. Thanks again. :wink:


  • Hey, great!  Happy to help.


  • Are the following moves allowed?
    Japan has its fleet in 36, attacks the blocker in 37 with a few ships and then during NC moves the rest to 38 including loaded transports.

    Can you NCM planes over a SZ in which you will build a Carrier, so that they will be on the Carrier at the End of your turn?


  • @ViribusUnitis:

    Are the following moves allowed?
    Japan has its fleet in 36, attacks the blocker in 37 with a few ships and then during NC moves the rest to 38 including loaded transports.

    Can you NCM planes over a SZ in which you will build a Carrier, so that they will be on the Carrier at the End of your turn?

    I have a similar scenario. Italy attacks Egypt from Tobruk with a tank and and a mech inf and lands more inf via an amphibious landing. The tank and mech infl blitz through British held unoccupied Alexandria. Italy then takes Egypt. Can I drive the remaining mech inf from Tobruk to Egypt now that I control Alexandria?


  • @RedArmySoldier:

    I have a similar scenario. Italy attacks Egypt from Tobruk with a tank and and a mech inf and lands more inf via an amphibious landing. The tank and mech infl blitz through British held unoccupied Alexandria. Italy then takes Egypt. Can I drive the remaining mech inf from Tobruk to Egypt now that I control Alexandria?

    YES.

    You are now in the non-combat movement phase.  Tobruk is friendly.  You could even make this move if Egypt was taken without moving the tank and infantry all the way from Tobruk to Egypt (as long as Alexandria was secured this turn).


  • @ViribusUnitis:

    Are the following moves allowed?
    Japan has its fleet in 36, attacks the blocker in 37 with a few ships and then during NC moves the rest to 38 including loaded transports.

    YES.  Assuming all enemy surface ships in 37 were destroyed.

    During the noncombat movement phase, Z37 is no longer blocked.

    Can you NCM planes over a SZ in which you will build a Carrier, so that they will be on the Carrier at the End of your turn?

    YES.


  • When exactly is the US at war with Japan when Japan makes an unprovoked attack against the UK and therefore Anzac (or Vice Versa)?

    Does the US have to wait until the beginning of the US Combat Round to declare war on Japan, Italy and Germany?

    In example:

    US1 moves its SS and DD from the Philippines to SZ38.
    J2 attacks the UK in SZ37.

    Can Japan NCM into SZ38?

    I guess what I’m getting at is can Japan DOW on UK on J2 and still ignore US ships until the US2 turn?


  • @Spendo02:

    When exactly is the US at war with Japan when Japan makes an unprovoked attack against the UK and therefore Anzac (or Vice Versa)?

    When USA declares war on Japan on USA’s turn.

    Does the US have to wait until the beginning of the US Combat Round to declare war on Japan, Italy and Germany?

    Yes

    In example:

    US1 moves its SS and DD from the Philippines to SZ38.
    J2 attacks the UK in SZ37.

    Can Japan NCM into SZ38?

    Yes

    I guess what I’m getting at is can Japan DOW on UK on J2 and still ignore US ships until the US2 turn?

    Yes

  • '22 '16

    It is Japans turn.  The turn starts with a Japanese destroyer already in sz39.  During the combat move phase Japan flies a fighter and a tac to sz 39 with a loaded transport and amphibious assault Ceylon.  India has 1 fighter that can scramble.  The UK player decides against scrambling.  Ceylon is taken.  Then during the NCM Japan moves the destroyer from sz39 to sz 37.  Was this legal and if so does the Japanese player need to declare what the destroyer is doing during the combat phase?  Thanks!

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    @majikforce:

    It is Japans turn.  The turn starts with a Japanese destroyer already in sz39.  During the combat move phase Japan flies a fighter and a tac to sz 39 with a loaded transport and amphibious assault Ceylon.  India has 1 fighter that can scramble.   The UK player decides against scrambling.  Ceylon is taken.  Then during the NCM Japan moves the destroyer from sz39 to sz 37.  Was this legal and if so does the Japanese player need to declare what the destroyer is doing during the combat phase?  Thanks!

    I know that a lot of us don’t use the battle board, but when combat is declared the rules state that all units involved must be placed on the battle board. So, you would need to state weather or not the destroyer is involved before the defender places their units on the board or before they decide to scramble.


  • @majikforce:

    It is Japans turn. The turn starts with a Japanese destroyer already in sz39. During the combat move phase Japan flies a fighter and a tac to sz 39 with a loaded transport and amphibious assault Ceylon. India has 1 fighter that can scramble. The UK player decides against scrambling. Ceylon is taken Then during the NCM Japan moves the destroyer from sz39 to sz 37. Was this legal and if so does the Japanese player need to declare what the destroyer is doing during the combat phase? Thanks!

    Not legal. You have to move the destroyer away in the combat movement phase. A “declaration” is not enough. You can move units during the combat movement phase that do not result in combat, if the move is to AVOID combat. (It’s actually in the rulebook, but don’t have it with me or would cite page)

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    @majikforce:

    It is Japans turn.  The turn starts with a Japanese destroyer already in sz39.  During the combat move phase Japan flies a fighter and a tac to sz 39 with a loaded transport and amphibious assault Ceylon.  India has 1 fighter that can scramble.  The UK player decides against scrambling.  Ceylon is taken.  Then during the NCM Japan moves the destroyer from sz39 to sz 37.  Was this legal and if so does the Japanese player need to declare what the destroyer is doing during the combat phase?  Thanks!

    It is legal.  Since the destroyer neither moved in the combat movement phase nor participated in combat, it is eligible to move in the noncombat movement phase.  Of course, if the UK player had scrambled, the destroyer would be stuck in the sea zone.  If the Japan player really wants to move the destroyer, he should move it during the combat move phase, which would also be legal due to the potential for scramble.

  • '10

    Wow…

    But the allies player has the right to know BEFORE he makes the decision to scramble or not if the dd will take part to combat in case he scrambles from India in sz39, doesn’t he ?


  • Overlooked the part about the UK player NOT scrambling.


  • @Axisplaya:

    Wow…

    But the allies player has the right to know BEFORE he makes the decision to scramble or not if the dd will take part to combat in case he scrambles from India in sz39, doesn’t he ?

    Absolutely.  This is why the Jap player must move the destroyer in combat movement phase if he wants to move it.

    If the Allied player scrambles and the destroyer was not moved in combat movement, then the destroyer MUST participate in combat and then can’t move later.

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    @Gamerman01:

    @majikforce:

    It is Japans turn. The turn starts with a Japanese destroyer already in sz39. During the combat move phase Japan flies a fighter and a tac to sz 39 with a loaded transport and amphibious assault Ceylon. India has 1 fighter that can scramble. The UK player decides against scrambling. Ceylon is taken Then during the NCM Japan moves the destroyer from sz39 to sz 37. Was this legal and if so does the Japanese player need to declare what the destroyer is doing during the combat phase? Thanks!

    Not legal. You have to move the destroyer away in the combat movement phase. A “declaration” is not enough. You can move units during the combat movement phase that do not result in combat, if the move is to AVOID combat. (It’s actually in the rulebook, but don’t have it with me or would cite page)

    Interesting, didn’t know that… Cheers.


  • You did see that my initial answer was technically wrong about it being illegal because the UK did NOT scramble their fighter, right? Because then no combat took place…

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    three questions:

    1. In OOB I understand Kamikaze attacks perfectly.  However, I want to ask if there was any change to them for the latest Alpha +3?
    I am asking because from reading Alpha +3, it really sounds like Japan can make kamikaze attacks from the very start of the game, since the sheet mentions nothing about any conditions necessary to do the attacks (ie: having to wait for the allies to capture one of those ~4 islands).

    2. I do not understand the Japan - Russian relationship, in either OOB or Alpha+3.
    Does it work like this: Either Japan or Russia can declare war on each other, any time they want [beginning of combat move], from the start of the game?
    Besides the weird mongolian rules, that relationship has no effect on anything else….

    3. Is Mongolia part of the “Strict Neutrals”?  I mean, if the axis attack Sweden or another strict neutral, do the mongolians become friendly to the Allies?  If the allies attack mongolia, does Sweden then become friendly to the axis?
    And if Russia attacks a Japanese territory, like Manchuria, that borders Mongolia, and then Japan recaptures it, does Mongolia still convert to Russian?

    thx
    veqryn


  • 1.  Kamikaze requirements changed between OOB and Alpha3.  There is no Allied capture of certain islands requirement anymore (Alpha2?)

    2.  Basically in OOB Russia or Japan can declare war on the other whenever they want at no penalty.  Later a penalty of 12 IPC’s was added to Russia if Japan attacked Russia (I think it was).  Now that’s gone and the weird Mongolian rules reign.  I stopped keeping track as soon as the weird Mongolian rules were introduced.  (I mean, really)

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