Regarding SZ 110, I got hosed one time on a UK scramble. Usually as Germany, I send 3 fighters, 3 Stukas, 1 bombers and sometimes 1 sub to SZ 110. Our UK player had gotten in the habit of not scrambling in order to save the RAF for future action.
Well, this one game I made the mistake of just assuming UK would not scramble. I sent 2 fighters, 2 Stukas and 1 bomber to SZ 110. The other fighter and Stuka I sent to kill the French fleet in SZ 93. Well, UK taught me a lesson. They scrambled and wiped out my planes. I didn’t even kill all the ships in the channel.
Never made that mistake again.
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@Cmdr:
Exactly which island were you going to put a complex on in Europe?
West Indies = 1 IPC, invalid
Malta = 0 IPC, invalid
Cyprus = 0 IPC, invalid
Sicily = 0 IPC, invalid
Iceland = 0 IPC, invalid
Ireland = 0 IPC, invalid
Madagascar = 1 IPC, invalidDid I miss any?
:-) Good post.
Greenland?
Crete? :roll:
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And I was thinking a few made it to China safely, but you guys are probably right about no survivors. I can’t remember for sure.
Many of them lived to tell the tale. I believe only one plane’s crew was completely unaccounted for. A portion fell into the hands of the Japanese and were POW’s for the better part of the war, I think. One crew was interned by the USSR. The majority bailed out or crash landed and found their way to the Chinese rebels they were trying to rendevous with, Doolittle included.
It’s a horrible HORRIBLE movie, and innaccurate in many ways, but the Michael Bay Pearl Harbor film did sort of accurately depict some of what went down with the Raid.
@Cmdr:
Wonder if there is a way we could incorporate it into the game somehow…maybe leaving them on the carriers, unable to take off until launched and then they have to be lost after the SBR or something…
The B-25s used in the raid required EXTENSIVE modification. It was a one off, one way, do or die mission and doesn’t really reflect how the planes were used in any typical role. They needed to be stripped of all defensive weaponry and anything not bolted down was tossed just to get the planes airborne before the end of the flight deck. In order to appear that they weren’t defenseless they installed mock gun barrels in the turrets.
So, if you REALLY wanted to include it, it would probably be best to treat it similar to Kamikaze tokens. The US gets 2 B25 tokens and you can one way them against Tokyo if Japan manages to bloody the US’s nose or summat. I don’t think there’s much reason to. It was pretty much only for propaganda and had minimal impact on the war other than morale.
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With the new Alpha 2 rules , can you kamakaze attack transports at all if there are no warships in the amphibious assault.
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I do not believe so, although I do not have a page reference for you. I would like to ask along with this question, if kamikaze’s cannot hit lone transports, why is this rule present? Why not call it an autokill?
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Hi,
I’m Andi from Bavaria and new to A&A and this Board. Most of my Newbie-Questions could be answered by reading this great FAQ. Thank you so far!
By now, I have one more question:
Let’s say, I’m with Japan at war with Russia, but not yet with UK/ANZAC. Now I’m attacking a hostile SZ containing a Russian Ship and a UK Vessel with my i.e. Battleship. How is combat done? May I attack? Is the UK vessel involved in combat somehow?
Thanks
Andi -
With the new Alpha 2 rules , can you kamakaze attack transports at all if there are no warships in the amphibious assault.
No.
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Welcome, Andi!
Let’s say, I’m with Japan at war with Russia, but not yet with UK/ANZAC. Now I’m attacking a hostile SZ containing a Russian Ship and a UK Vessel with my i.e. Battleship. How is combat done? May I attack? Is the UK vessel involved in combat somehow?
Units that belong to powers that you’re not at war with are ignored. They don’t participate in the battle.
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Dankeschön, Krieghund!
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Just posting here, so i get notified.
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Japan declares war on Russia, on Germany’s next turn they capture Moscow. What happens to the 12IPC Russia would have collected for the DOW by japan?
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I do not believe so, although I do not have a page reference for you. I would like to ask along with this question, if kamikaze’s cannot hit lone transports, why is this rule present? Why not call it an autokill?
Kamikazes cannot kill transports since there is no honor in killing defenseless transport.
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@Cmdr:
@Vir:
Japan declares war on Russia, on Germany’s next turn they capture Moscow. What happens to the 12IPC Russia would have collected for the DOW by japan?
Think it’s been asked and answered, the money is paid into the coffers immediately, not at the start of their next turn. So Germany would get the 12 IPC, I think.
Wrong
Does anyone read rules anymore? This is straight from the Alpha2 rules I printed out from Larry’s site. Took me 30 seconds to find the paper and read it.
Under Soviet Union NO’s:
#4 “Collect 12 IPC’s, once, at the beginning of the turn following a declaration of war by Japan on the Soviet Union. Theme: Recognized national emergency.”Really, no interpretation or FAQ needed. Just read the rules. No offense meant, Vir, you just happened to be the hundredth person that’s asked a question that’s VERY clearly stated in the rules and is completely unambiguous. Sometimes I think people don’t read the rulebooks anymore, they just learn how to play games from other people…. :-)
And Jenn, if you can’t answer basic questions correctly and you’re always saying “I think”, then why are you answering questions on the FAQ thread?
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As I said, Gamer, it’s been answered. =p~
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@Cmdr:
@Vir:
Japan declares war on Russia, on Germany’s next turn they capture Moscow. What happens to the 12IPC Russia would have collected for the DOW by japan?
Think it’s been asked and answered, the money is paid into the coffers immediately, not at the start of their next turn. So Germany would get the 12 IPC, I think.
Wrong
Does anyone read rules anymore? This is straight from the Alpha2 rules I printed out from Larry’s site. Took me 30 seconds to find the paper and read it.
Under Soviet Union NO’s:
#4 “Collect 12 IPC’s, once, at the beginning of the turn following a declaration of war by Japan on the Soviet Union. Theme: Recognized national emergency.”Really, no interpretation or FAQ needed. Just read the rules. No offense meant, Vir, you just happened to be the hundredth person that’s asked a question that’s VERY clearly stated in the rules and is completely unambiguous. Sometimes I think people don’t read the rulebooks anymore, they just learn how to play games from other people…. :-)
And Jenn, if you can’t answer basic questions correctly and you’re always saying “I think”, then why are you answering questions on the FAQ thread?
Confine yourself to answering the question without bloviating comments. It is infact somewhat ambiguous since Russia can’t normally collect or spend money with their capital lost.
So in the future do not reply to any of my questions.
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@Vir:
So in the future do not reply to any of my questions.
Gamerman serves as a defacto rule wonk if Krieg doesn’t get to it in his “official” capacity. So asking him not to reply to further questions probably won’t buy you many favors if you have a lot of questions, especially when he’s trying to quickly stop Jenn’s well intentioned but VERY wrong answer.
and it’s really not that ambiguous. If Moscow can’t collect IPCs because their capital is gone, then the IPCs are gone. And since they could not possibly get their capital back in time, it would not be the “turn following” anymore when they happened to collect income again. So, simply, it’s never collected.
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@Vir:
So in the future do not reply to any of my questions.
Gamerman serves as a defacto rule wonk if Krieg doesn’t get to it in his “official” capacity. So asking him not to reply to further questions probably won’t buy you many favors if you have a lot of questions, especially when he’s trying to quickly stop Jenn’s well intentioned but VERY wrong answer.
and it’s really not that ambiguous. If Moscow can’t collect IPCs because their capital is gone, then the IPCs are gone. And since they could not possibly get their capital back in time, it would not be the “turn following” anymore when they happened to collect income again. So, simply, it’s never collected.
I appreciate what your saying, my point was the commentary wasn’t necessary, after all the F in FAQ does stand for Frequently. Anyway your interpretation makes my point, we now have 3 different interpretations, Jen who says Germany gets the money, you say the money is just gone (this is my take on it as well) and Gamer who says Russia gets the money.
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@Vir:
… and Gamer who says Russia gets the money.
No, he didn’t say that, nor imply it. He was correcting Jen, who said that Russia collects immediately.
He quoted the National Objective, which states specifically that Russia collects at the beginning of its next turn. However, it is also specifically in the rules that if you don’t have a capital, you don’t collect anything. Gamerman didn’t point that out because that rule is very specific and very firm - there are no exceptions, even national objectives that are delayed or triggered.
And to most firmly reiterate: Jenn’s statement is false. The rules was specifically written so that Germany CANNOT snag this bonus if Japan starts the war as you describe.
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However, it is also specifically in the rules that if you don’t have a capital, you don’t collect anything.
That’s not exactly true. If you don’t have a capital, you don’t collect income (including NOs). However, you can collect IPCs that are not income, such as plunder from an enemy capital.
In Alpha+.2, the IPCs from breaking the Soviet-Japanese non-aggression pact are classified as NOs, so they would not be collected by anyone under the circumstances being discussed. However, they will be re-classified as non-income in Alpha+.3, so they will be collected whether or not the power controls its capital. Spending them is, of course, another matter.
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However, it is also specifically in the rules that if you don’t have a capital, you don’t collect anything.
That’s not exactly true. If you don’t have a capital, you don’t collect income (including NOs). However, you can collect IPCs that are not income, such as plunder from an enemy capital.
In Alpha+.2, the IPCs from breaking the Soviet-Japanese non-aggression pact are classified as NOs, so they would not be collected by anyone under the circumstances being discussed. However, they will be re-classified as non-income in Alpha+.3, so they will be collected whether or not the power controls its capital. Spending them is, of course, another matter.
I was just going to mention that China, also, does not have a capitol and collects income all the time. =p
I know it doesn’t apply to Russia because they literally do have a capitol, but I don’t care, I feel contrarian today!
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Wow, an official mention of Alpha 3? That piques MY interest! (But not enough to go scouring over Larry’s site finding tidbits yet :-P)
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