How is France going to survive even 1 round?!?

[calvinhobbesliker]

I just hope that Germany won’t be like another Japan: able to kill France on the 1st turn AND eliminate almost all or all british/french naval units(In P40, the japs can destroy all allied ships except the Indian and San Francisco navy).

[idk_iam_swiss]

I could totally see that happening. They over develop Germany. Giving them a TON of units. All placed within ranged of the UK. UK falls G1….And can take Canada( sorry Canada fanboys) in a few rolls of the dice. While Building up the forces to take out Russia All on G2

[Clyde85]

Believe it or not, the success of the Germans in France had nothing to do with Hitler or the General staff, but much more to do with the boldness and genius of German divisional commanders, as has ever been the case in German military history. Had Heinz Guiderian(sp?) not disobeyed direct orders to halt his advance at the Senne river in France and wait for the infantry, the battle of France could have been a very different story.

Either way, the game begins after this fact, and after the BEF had been driven from mainland Europe. I expect France’s central province to fall about 90% of the time to a concentrated German attack on G1. After that, it will be mostly a mopping up campagin to control the rest of mainland France. If the Germans choose to venture elsewhere and not concentrate on this province I give them a 60 to 50% chance of success. However, after that, its up to the individual players as to what to do with France. There is no Vichy rule and this game dosent go in depth enough to represent a peoples will to fight and resist, or lack there as the case may be. This is not a bad thing, as I feel like it would just bog the game down. I still strongly recommend playing France like China after the fall of mainland France, with nothing but inf. builds.

[calvinhobbesliker]

If the French coastal territory survives(the Vichy territory also should, since Italy never actually captured it), France caan transport its units to the UK, or perhaps Norway, Libya, or Italy

[Funcioneta]

Italy plays before France, so in this game we are going to have a “Italian Vichy France”  :mrgreen:

[calvinhobbesliker]

@Funcioneta:

Italy plays before France, so in this game we are going to have a “Italian Vichy France”  :mrgreen:

Well, Italy invaded and was owned by France, so they shouldn’t be able to take Vichy on the first turn(but looking at P40, they’ll probably be able to take Egypt, Gibraltar, and Malta on their first turn

[oztea]

Italy might have to take Vichy if Germany doesnt take Brittany. Otherwise France might successfuly counterattack Paris.

Dont forget the official rule from Larry……“The first time Paris is liberated, place 4 French Infantry in that terriory”

Concievably…if Brittany and Vichy have enough French units to launch a valid attack on Paris, then the Axis has to elimnate them G1 and I1 respectively.

The risk for France is worth the reward…Even in a suicidal attack

[calvinhobbesliker]

@oztea:

Italy might have to take Vichy if Germany doesnt take Brittany. Otherwise France might successfuly counterattack Paris.

Dont forget the official rule from Larry……“The first time Paris is liberated, place 4 French Infantry in that terriory”

Concievably…if Brittany and Vichy have enough French units to launch a valid attack on Paris, then the Axis has to elimnate them G1 and I1 respectively.

The risk for France is worth the reward…Even in a suicidal attack

Vichy will probably have 1 inf, while Italy has 8 inf, 5 tanks,  3 fighters, and 5 transports with which it captures Vichy, Egypt, Gibraltar, and Malta on the 1st turn. Germany will have 13 infantry, 10 tanks, 3 bombers, and 10 fighters in addition to 4 transports, 2 BB’s, 1 CV, and 20 SS.

[SilverAngelSurfer]

@calvinhobbesliker:

@oztea:

Italy might have to take Vichy if Germany doesnt take Brittany. Otherwise France might successfuly counterattack Paris.

Dont forget the official rule from Larry……“The first time Paris is liberated, place 4 French Infantry in that terriory”

Concievably…if Brittany and Vichy have enough French units to launch a valid attack on Paris, then the Axis has to elimnate them G1 and I1 respectively.

The risk for France is worth the reward…Even in a suicidal attack

Vichy will probably have 1 inf, while Italy has 8 inf, 5 tanks,  3 fighters, and 5 transports with which it captures Vichy, Egypt, Gibraltar, and Malta on the 1st turn. Germany will have 13 infantry, 10 tanks, 3 bombers, and 10 fighters in addition to 4 transports, 2 BB’s, 1 CV, and 20 SS.

Where did you get these figures?  5 transports for Italy?  20 subs for Germany?  Taking out Egypt, Gibraltar, and Malta all in the first turn?  If that’s the case the Allies are screwed, but I don’t remember seeing that anywhere…  I think your numbers are off.

[finnman]

@SAS:

@calvinhobbesliker:

@oztea:

Italy might have to take Vichy if Germany doesnt take Brittany. Otherwise France might successfuly counterattack Paris.

Dont forget the official rule from Larry……“The first time Paris is liberated, place 4 French Infantry in that terriory”

Concievably…if Brittany and Vichy have enough French units to launch a valid attack on Paris, then the Axis has to elimnate them G1 and I1 respectively.

The risk for France is worth the reward…Even in a suicidal attack

Vichy will probably have 1 inf, while Italy has 8 inf, 5 tanks,  3 fighters, and 5 transports with which it captures Vichy, Egypt, Gibraltar, and Malta on the 1st turn. Germany will have 13 infantry, 10 tanks, 3 bombers, and 10 fighters in addition to 4 transports, 2 BB’s, 1 CV, and 20 SS.

Where did you get these figures?  5 transports for Italy?  20 subs for Germany?  Taking out Egypt, Gibraltar, and Malta all in the first turn?  The Allies are screwed…

20 subs the british navy won’t exist after G1.

[calvinhobbesliker]

@SAS:

@calvinhobbesliker:

@oztea:

Italy might have to take Vichy if Germany doesnt take Brittany. Otherwise France might successfuly counterattack Paris.

Dont forget the official rule from Larry……“The first time Paris is liberated, place 4 French Infantry in that terriory”

Concievably…if Brittany and Vichy have enough French units to launch a valid attack on Paris, then the Axis has to elimnate them G1 and I1 respectively.

The risk for France is worth the reward…Even in a suicidal attack

Vichy will probably have 1 inf, while Italy has 8 inf, 5 tanks,  3 fighters, and 5 transports with which it captures Vichy, Egypt, Gibraltar, and Malta on the 1st turn. Germany will have 13 infantry, 10 tanks, 3 bombers, and 10 fighters in addition to 4 transports, 2 BB’s, 1 CV, and 20 SS.

Where did you get these figures?  5 transports for Italy?  20 subs for Germany?  Taking out Egypt, Gibraltar, and Malta all in the first turn?  If that’s the case the Allies are screwed, but I don’t remember seeing that anywhere…  I think your numbers are off.

Well, if P40 is anything to go by, my numbers can’t be far off. Japan can capture Celebes, Yunan, Hong Kong, and destroy all allied ships except ones at the edge of the board.

[calvinhobbesliker]

Note: I am joking

[UN Spacy]

@calvinhobbesliker:

Note: I am joking

Note: British humor=/=Everyone else’s humor  :-D

[SilverAngelSurfer]

@UN:

@calvinhobbesliker:

Note: I am joking

Note: British humor=/=Everyone else’s humor  :-D

Silly British, jokes are for kids…

Note: Jokes are cool, but written sarcasm is hard to interpret…  At least without facial expressions.  But if it’s a joke then: :lol:

[calvinhobbesliker]

@UN:

@calvinhobbesliker:

Note: I am joking

Note: British humor=/=Everyone else’s humor  :-D

I’m not British; I’m an Indian living in the US.

[calvinhobbesliker]

@SAS:

@UN:

@calvinhobbesliker:

Note: I am joking

Note: British humor=/=Everyone else’s humor  :-D

Silly British, jokes are for kids…

Note: Jokes are cool, but written sarcasm is hard to interpret…  At least without facial expressions.   But if it’s a joke then: :lol:

It’s easy if the claim is really stupid, like IL saying that Portugal was the strongest country.

[UN Spacy]

@calvinhobbesliker:

@UN:

@calvinhobbesliker:

Note: I am joking

Note: British humor=/=Everyone else’s humor  :-D

I’m not British; I’m an Indian living in the US.

Well, you could have fooled me with your avatar that basically screams “Rule Britannia”!

[calvinhobbesliker]

My avatar/tagline doesn’t say anything about the empire except that it was the largest in history: a true statement.

[Imperious Leader]

Of course it is a joke. What else?

[idk_iam_swiss]

These new kids take everything WAY seriously