• No just a factoid that comes to mind. They helped make our nation possible, so we should repay the favor with aid.

    The the post had that in mind. And no this is not a france thread.


  • OK, I appreciate the clarification IL.
    I’ll edit my post.


  • thanks


  • I feel bad for Haiti, but I will not send them any money as my government is already doing that which is coming from my tax dollars already.
    And no we don’t need any more refugees here in our country breaking our already broken system.


  • like always, i blame the british, spanish and Belgians (myself)
    we had the big colonies, which sucked out the economys of spanish america, Congo and india


  • @Frontovik:

    like always, i blame the british, spanish and Belgians (myself)
    we had the big colonies, which sucked out the economys of spanish america, Congo and india

    I must say you lost me on that post. Could you please elaborate?


  • @Brain:

    @Frontovik:

    like always, i blame the british, spanish and Belgians (myself)
    we had the big colonies, which sucked out the economys of spanish america, Congo and india

    I must say you lost me on that post. Could you please elaborate?

    Many of these impoverished nations were under colonial rule for some time, which basically was raiding the land and people for wealth and resources.  Haiti being one of them.


  • @gamerman01:

    Yep, and the same thing would have happened to America had they not won their war of independence.  America was doomed to be an over-taxed and plundered colony if she didn’t win a major war against occupying, colonial Britain (with no small amount of help from France, who was a rival of Great Britain).

    Well, it still did.  Just ask the remaining American Indians.  At least they got blankets, alcohol, and casinos.  :|


  • @Jermofoot:

    @gamerman01:

    Yep, and the same thing would have happened to America had they not won their war of independence.  America was doomed to be an over-taxed and plundered colony if she didn’t win a major war against occupying, colonial Britain (with no small amount of help from France, who was a rival of Great Britain).

    Well, it still did.  Just ask the remaining American Indians.  At least they got blankets, alcohol, and casinos.  :|

    Not a bad deal. It could have been a lot worse.


  • I am guilty of forgetting the natives, yes.

    Natives just didn’t do too well from like, what, 1200-2010?

    Not saying it’s right, just saying that’s the way it’s gone in all of human history.

    I’m probably over-simplifying, but after WWII it seems the world’s powers decided that Imperialism was no longer allowed.  Seems hypocritical.  I’m a true-blue American and I love our country, but seems kind of convenient that once you’ve taken over the continent (with vastly superior technology, just like the Europeans liked to do it) and some other islands and you have all of your natural resource and space needs met, that it’s a good time to change the rules on everyone else….

    Ah, human nature.  I mean, what else do you expect?


  • But when other nations experience horrible natural disasters, it is a great opportunity for people all over the world to show that they can rise above human nature and help out their fellow man, because there is a great need.


  • @gamerman01:

    Yep, and the same thing would have happened to America had they not won their war of independence.  America was doomed to be an over-taxed and plundered colony if she didn’t win a major war against occupying, colonial Britain (with no small amount of help from France, who was a rival of Great Britain).

    What a pile of utter horse shit.

    Australia and Canada seem to throw that rather absurd and frankly hysterical little hypothesis out of the window. Neither these two countries were ‘plundered’ to the point of becoming third world countries, and it’s laughable to suggest that the United States would have become a Third World country if it hadn’t of shaken off the shackles of British rule.


  • I guess the natives didn’t budget enough money for national defense. They won’t do that again.


  • @Brain:

    I guess the naatives didn’t budget enough money for national defense. They won’t do that again.

    Perhaps in future the natives will invest in more tech rolls and spend their IC more wisely next time  :wink:


  • @Starke:

    @Brain:

    I guess the naatives didn’t budget enough money for national defense. They won’t do that again.

    Perhaps in future the natives will invest in more tech rolls and spend their IC more wisely next time  :wink:

    They should also be leary of diplomatic agreements with Europeans.


  • Good thing he didn’t say anything bad about the french colonial influence on Haiti.

    Whew. Close call.


  • @Starke:

    @gamerman01:

    Yep, and the same thing would have happened to America had they not won their war of independence.  America was doomed to be an over-taxed and plundered colony if she didn’t win a major war against occupying, colonial Britain (with no small amount of help from France, who was a rival of Great Britain).

    What a pile of utter horse sh*t.

    Australia and Canada seem to throw that rather absurd and frankly hysterical little hypothesis out of the window. Neither these two countries were ‘plundered’ to the point of becoming third world countries, and it’s laughable to suggest that the United States would have become a Third World country if it hadn’t of shaken off the shackles of British rule.

    Whatever.  You don’t have a crystal ball either, so how do you know?
    Like the other guys said, the US was plundered.  The Indians are gone.


  • forget I said anything. thanks.


  • This thread has gone from talking about a disaster to politics. What a disaster! Oh it looks like we have come full circle.


  • OK, I didn’t think it through and it was a stupid post.

    Thanks for pointing that out - it’s removed now.

    You could stand to learn about something called “tact”, Starke.  Unless, of course, you enjoy difficult relations with people.

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