VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 1

[VictoryFirst]

@DoManMacgee

Yes, you can kill the TT before the DD.

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 2 carriers; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        1 fighter moved from Syria to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
        1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
        2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
        1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Baltic Sea Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Iran to Caucasus
        1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
              British take Tunisia from Germans

    Combat - British
        Battle in Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 bomber and 2 fighters
            Germans defend with 1 transport
                British roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 fighters in Baltic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 transport in Baltic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Baltic Sea Sea Zone
            British win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
            Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
        Battle in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
            British attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport
            Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
            Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                1 transport owned by the British lost in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
                British roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                1 destroyer owned by the British lost in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
                1 destroyer owned by the Germans and 1 transport owned by the Germans lost in Sicilian Sea Sea Zone
            1 fighter owned by the British retreated
            Germans win with 1 battleship remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
            Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer and 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 fighter moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Libya
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
        1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Leningrad
        1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Belorussia

    Place Units - British
        2 carriers placed in Atlantic Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 17 PUs; end with 22 PUs
        1 unit repaired.

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -0.83
British regular : 1.33

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Americans attack Germans in US Convoy (6 IPC Value):

[dice 4d6<=3]

[dicebot]

4d6<=3: 6, 1, 3, 4; Hits: 2

[DoManMacgee]

@dicebot Sub Fires back:
[dice 1d6<=2]

[dicebot]

1d6<=2: 1; Hits: 1

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Game History

Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 3 fighters; Remaining resources: 8 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Davis Strait Sea Zone: 1 transport
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Baltic States
        1 fighter moved from Iceland to Atlantic Sea Zone
        1 destroyer moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone
              Americans take U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone from Germans
        3 fighters moved from United States to U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone

    Combat - Americans
        Battle in Baltic States
            Americans attack with 1 bomber
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Americans roll dice for 1 bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
            Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Americans
        1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Leningrad
        3 fighters moved from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone to Atlantic Sea Zone

    Place Units - Americans
        3 fighters placed in United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 48 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.33
Germans regular : -0.33

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[VictoryFirst]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 8 armour; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        8 armour moved from East Poland to Leningrad
        2 fighters moved from East Poland to Leningrad
        1 fighter moved from Finland to Leningrad
        1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Germany to Leningrad
        6 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
              Germans take Vyborg from Russians
        1 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 artillery moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 submarine moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone
              Germans take U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone from Americans

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Germans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
        Battle in Leningrad
            Germans attack with 8 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters
            British defend with 2 fighters; Americans defend with 1 bomber; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory and 7 infantry
                Russians roll AA dice in Leningrad : 0/6 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 8 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters in Leningrad, round 2 : 9/14 hits, 7,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 7 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 6/10 hits, 3,83 expected hits
                6 armour owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad
                7 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 bomber owned by the Americans and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Leningrad
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters in Leningrad, round 3 : 2/8 hits, 4,17 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 fighter in Leningrad, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                1 fighter owned by the British lost in Leningrad
            Germans win, taking Leningrad from Russians with 2 armour, 1 bomber and 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30
            Casualties for Germans: 6 armour
            Casualties for Russians: 7 infantry
            Casualties for British: 2 fighters
            Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
        1 artillery and 20 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
        1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland
        2 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
        15 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
        2 infantry moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
        1 fighter moved from Netherlands-Belgium to Germany
        1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Germany
        1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Germany
        1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Germany
        3 fighters moved from Leningrad to East Poland
        1 infantry moved from Austria to Hungary
        3 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
        1 battleship moved from Sicilian Sea Sea Zone to Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco

    Place Units - Germans
        8 armour placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 47 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 1,17
Germans regular : -0,00
Russians AA : -1,00

Savegame

[VictoryFirst]

@DoManMacgee

I will get the statistics for round 2 and 3 at a later point, don’t feel like to crunch the numbers right now, mostly because I’ve spent a lot of time in the morning calculating stuff from you guys’ games 😅

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Karelia to Leningrad
        1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 artillery moved from Belorussia to Ukraine S.S.R.
        5 armour, 2 artilleries and 29 infantry moved from Belorussia to Leningrad
        1 submarine moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone
              British take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from Germans

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 fighter
            Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                1 bomber owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
                1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
            Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 bomber
            Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
        Battle in Leningrad
            Russians attack with 5 armour, 3 artilleries and 34 infantry
            Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 2 armour and 1 factory
                Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 3 artilleries and 34 infantry in Leningrad, round 2 : 11/42 hits, 9.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 2 armour in Leningrad, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Leningrad
                2 armour owned by the Germans lost in Leningrad
            Russians win, taking Leningrad from Germans with 5 armour, 3 artilleries and 32 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
            Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Casualties for Germans: 2 armour

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Moscow
        1 transport moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone

    Place Units - Russians
        8 infantry placed in Moscow

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 2.67
Russians regular : 1.83

UK/US turn later. Need to map some stuff out + take care of some things at my job.

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - British
        British buy 2 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - British
        2 carriers and 4 fighters moved from Atlantic Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone
        1 armour moved from United Kingdom to English Channel Sea Zone
        1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
              Russians take Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans
        1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
              British take Algeria from Germans
        1 fighter moved from Libya to Caucasus
        1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Baltic States

    Combat - British
        Battle in Baltic States
            British attack with 1 bomber
            Germans defend with 1 infantry
                British roll dice for 1 bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                British roll dice for 1 bomber in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
            British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - British
        1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Leningrad

    Place Units - British
        1 submarine and 1 transport placed in English Channel Sea Zone
        2 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
        British collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -0.67
British regular : -0.33

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst

1 DD Vs. 1 SUB (1v1) in American Convoy Zone (4 IPC).

Previously you said subs would always prefer to submerge but I have a suspicion this scenario may be an exception given the closer odds on this fight.

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Forgot to roll for USA:

[dice 1d6<=3]

[dicebot]

1d6<=3: 3; Hits: 1

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Disregard my previous ask since I hit. Rolling for sub:

[dice 1d6<=2]

[dicebot]

1d6<=2: 1; Hits: 1

[DoManMacgee]

@VictoryFirst Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Americans
        Americans buy 4 fighters; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Americans
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from U.S. Convoy 2 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
        EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from U.S. Convoy 1 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        3 fighters moved from United States to English Channel Sea Zone
        4 fighters moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Leningrad

    Combat - Americans

    Non Combat Move - Americans

    Place Units - Americans
        4 fighters placed in United States

    Turn Complete - Americans
        Americans collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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[VictoryFirst]

@DoManMacgee said in VF (Germany) vs. DoMan (Allies) | Original Europe, Game 1:

Previously you said subs would always prefer to submerge but I have a suspicion this scenario may be an exception given the closer odds on this fight.

Also in this case if your DD missed I would have submerged, since that is part of my strategy (in my opinion the most annoying thing you can do with the German subs is continously submerging, harassing the convoy centers and forcing the Allies to do something about it).

[VictoryFirst]

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved

Game History

Round: 4

    Purchase Units - Germans
        Germans buy 9 armour; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 

    Combat Move - Germans
        1 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia
              Germans take Belorussia from Russians
        2 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
        3 fighters moved from East Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
        1 battleship moved from Strait of Gibraltar Sea Zone to British Convoy 2 Sea Zone
              Germans take British Convoy 2 Sea Zone from British
        5 infantry moved from Vyborg to Karelia
              Germans take Karelia from Russians

    Combat - Germans
        Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry
            British defend with 1 infantry
                Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 2/6 hits, 2,50 expected hits
                Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                1 infantry owned by the British lost in Ukraine S.S.R.
            Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for British: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
        1 bomber moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
        3 fighters moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Germany
        15 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland
        1 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland
        8 armour moved from Germany to East Poland
        3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Austria

    Place Units - Germans
        9 armour placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
        Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 45 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0,33
Germans regular : -0,50

Savegame

[VictoryFirst]

And to rephrase what I said above: I think capturing the convoy centers is worth more than killing the Allied naval units, mostly because in the latter case there is some risk involved.