I just noticed that the PtV map is quite different than OOB! I thought just there are just rules differences like in BM. Ha!
Might take till tomorrow until I found out bid and first turn.
Farmboy (X) vs MrRoboto (L+10) 2023 BM Playoffs
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TripleA Move Summary: British round 1
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3
Game History
Round: 1 Combat Move - British 1 battleship moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Scotland to 110 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone -
It’s been a while since I last attacked 97 in UK1, but I feel like circumstances are right this game.
Scramble?
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@MrRoboto no scramble
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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 1
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 51 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 26 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Philippines to Guam 2 aaGuns moved from Eastern United States to Central United States 2 aaGuns moved from Western United States to Central United States 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Central United States Place Units - Americans 2 carriers and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 3 artilleries; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar 2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan 1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Hunan Combat - Chinese Battle in Chahar Chinese attack with 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Chahar, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar 1 infantry owned by the Chinese retreated to Suiyuyan Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Hunan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 1/5 hits, 1,17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 2/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Hunan, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Hunan, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Hunan, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Hunan, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Hunan to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Shensi to Suiyuyan Place Units - Chinese 3 artilleries placed in Szechwan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 battleship moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Scotland to 110 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone 1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in 110 Sea Zone British attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter Germans defend with 1 battleship and 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone 1 battleship owned by the Germans and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone British win with 1 battleship and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship and 1 submarine Battle in 96 Sea Zone British attack with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 fighter in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1,00 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 96 Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 cruiser Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in 97 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 submarine in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 3,67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1,17 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone 1 cruiser owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 submarine in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 4/6 hits, 3,33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 97 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 97 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the Italians and 1 battleship owned by the Italians lost in 97 Sea Zone British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 25 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport Non Combat Move - British 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta 1 artillery moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia British take Persia from Neutral_Allies 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia 1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to Eire British take Eire from Neutral_Allies 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 88 Sea Zone to Suriname British take Suriname from Dutch 1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies 2 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch 1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from India to Burma 1 fighter moved from Burma to India 1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 78 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta Place Units - British 1 fighter and 3 infantry placed in United Kingdom 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 106 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,4 British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantryCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Chinese regular : -2,00 Italians regular : 0,83 Japanese regular : 0,67 Germans regular : 0,17 British regular : -0,17 -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 1
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3
Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 marine and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Tobruk to Alexandria Italians take Alexandria from British 1 armour moved from Alexandria to Tobruk 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Tunisia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya Italians take Kenya from British 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland Italians take British Somaliland from British 1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to Kenya Combat - Italians Battle in Gibraltar Battle in Tunisia Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry French defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits French roll dice for 1 infantry in Tunisia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Tunisia 1 infantry owned by the French lost in Tunisia Italians win, taking Gibraltar from British, taking Tunisia from French with 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 infantry Battle in 97 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 fighters Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 97 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hitsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@farmboy will need ool in 97. Sub hits.
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Please roll the rest on the forums here.
My decision depends on the rest of your hits in the first combat round -
@MrRoboto can you remind me how I do that? And is it the norm that you see the rest of the dice before deciding on the casualty for the sub hit. My assumption was that you have to decide now before the rest of the dice are rolled.
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No that is a tripleA thing, but the official rules say that casualties are chosen after ALL combat hits.
That’s why I tend to roll sea battles on the forum, especially those small ones where a single sub hit makes a huge difference.
I can roll it for you, no problem
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@MrRoboto I just checked the rules here. casualties from sub strikes are removed first. I’ll post it in a sec.
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so you attack with
1 destroyer
1 cruiser
2 fighter
1 bomber[dice 1d6<=2]
[dice 3d6<=3]
[dice 1d6<=4]Power: 15
HP: 5 -
1d6<=2: 1; Hits: 1
3d6<=3: 3, 2, 5; Hits: 2
1d6<=4: 6; Hits: 0 -
You make 4 hits overall.
I will keep the cruiser, so you have to stay (a fighter would crash)
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In the europe rules it is on page 19 under step 2
after explain submerge and surprise strike it says
Once all attacking and defending submarines that
conducted a Surprise Strike have fired, the casualties
they have generated are removed from the game and
this step (step 2) is over for this round of combat. As
long as there are attacking and/or defending submarines
and no opposing destroyers, this step is repeated during
each round of combat. Any hits made during this step
that don’t destroy units (such as battleships and carriers)
remain in effect until they are repaired.And then it goes on to:
Step 3. Attacking Units Fire
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Ah right, because I have no destroyer.
Surprise strikes are chosen first.If I had a destroyer, the casualties are chosen at the end, with all others
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I’m happy with that roll but fine with continuing with the normal dice.
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Ok, so sorry about that - I should have chosen first.
However, actually there was no chance to chose the cruiser here for the surprise strike.
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You can go ahead as you please. Sub hits the carrier in all cases.
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@MrRoboto all good. I get the rules mixed up all the time.
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@farmboy I’ll stick with doing it with the in game dice and ignore the dice here. my thinking was to force a carrier hit and then retreat if the roll wasn’t good enough first round.
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