UK collects the unspent IPCs of the Germany’s player, then, even if its own capital is in enemy’s hands. See page 21 of the Europe 1940.2 rulebook.
Control Marker Styles
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ugh as long as we get less of those lame bulls eye designs nothing says lazy MS paint artist like several colored circles
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Japan would just be a solid red circle. I like the rising sun better.
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Hate to tell you this, but the maple leaf and kangeroo roundels post date WWII.
You could use the RAF pacific markings for Australia; this means the standard red-white-blue roundel but with the red bit painted white to avoid clashing with the Japanese symbol. Similarly, the USA removed the red centre spot after Pearl Harbor.
Apparently the maple leaf design was experimented with in 1940, but not used on active service.
The Japanese sun with the red rays is based on the naval flag, not the national flag which is a plain red disc on white.
http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-badges/rondels.htm
Note the orange triangle which would be correct for the Netherlands East Indies forces in Pacific.
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Thanks for the link Flashman, I think we should just go with the national flags.
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You speak the truth Flashman. But the truth is not always as aestheticaly pleasing as can be.
I think they should go with the Kiwi Bird roundel for ANZAC.
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kiwi bird would be awesome!
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Yes, I was aware of their ahistorical date, but my point was that I was willing to fudge a bit with historicity for the sake of aesthetics & quick recognizability for the Commonwealth and Japanese CM’s, but prefer the historical Italian one for the same reasons.
Basically, I’ve come to the conclusion that the roundels were a good idea, but having already departed from the historical roundel for Japan, why not make an exception for the Commonwealth countries too, especially since they are really just variations on the historical UK target roundel theme anyway…
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Agreed.
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who decides what is aesthetically pleasing?
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The designer. The current ones used are just fine. They do not offend anybody for reasons that cause somebody to not buy the games. That’s the only responsibility they have.
I would be happy with pieces of pizza for Italy’s control markers. I like Pizza.
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@Imperious:
The designer. The current ones used are just fine. They do not offend anybody for reasons that cause somebody to not buy the games. That’s the only responsibility they have.
I would be happy with pieces of pizza for Italy’s control markers. I like Pizza.
Well thankfully for the rest of us, it will not be IL making the decisions.
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Yes, well, aesthetically pleasing is of course entirely subjective…
Using national flags is another idea, one which I believe they go with in TWG, especially if you’re going to switch to a rectangular shape. But round seems to work pretty well as a CM shape, I think, and translating a rectangular flag into a round control marker, and then making sure that they are easily recognizable… Well, that’s part of the reason why the aircraft roundels were invented in the first place.
I like the original 5 CM’s just fine as they are and am only thinking about what they ought to be for the other powers…
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I am not satisfied. (This is not a complain) In the old A&A Pacific, the British convoys used the Union Jack as CM, and that look much better than the Bulls eye CM they use as standard, man.
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Agreed.
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There’s a big difference between artistically creating a symbol based loosely on national flags etc; and using something that is demonstrably WRONG, such as using Italian Allied co-belligerent roundels for Fascist Axis Italy.
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So which roundels are you unsatisfied with?
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As I said, the British
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Okay Aldertag doesn’t like the UK roundel and Flashman doesn’t like the Italian roundel and I would like to see the German swastika. Maybe there is a market for alternate roundels.
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@Brain:
Okay Aldertag doesn’t like the UK roundel and Flashman doesn’t like the Italian roundel and I would like to see the German swastika. Maybe there is a market for alternate roundels.
Talk to Field Marshal Games….
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I don’t want to slow down their current project.
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