L22 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis+7) vs max334 (Allies)

[max334]

are you still in the playoffs? Hows that goin?

[FlyingBadger]

@max334 said in L22 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis+7) vs max334 (Allies):

thanks for getting France for me

No problem, easy to forget when they can’t do much.

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[FlyingBadger]

@max334 said in L22 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis+7) vs max334 (Allies):

are you still in the playoffs? Hows that goin?

I lost to the #1 seed in the PtV playoffs. I was aggressive (as I didn’t see myself out playing them in a long game) and took chances but they didn’t work out. No regrets, and at least the end came quickly.

Still playing a G40 playoff game, although I think that’s started to favour the opponent now.

First year in the playoffs, I have enjoyed participating, it’s a nice element to the league and makes getting up the league a goal to get a good seeding.

[max334]

@flyingbadger I know what you mean about having an agressive vs a passive/defensive strategy. I also like taking an agressive aproach. It’s a gamble, but against such a good player its better than sitting back and hoping he will screw up.
Anyway, in our game, I meant to leave 1 inf back in Smolensk. May I edit?

[max334]

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[FlyingBadger]

@max334 said in L22 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis+7) vs max334 (Allies):

@flyingbadger I know what you mean about having an agressive vs a passive/defensive strategy. I also like taking an agressive aproach. It’s a gamble, but against such a good player its better than sitting back and hoping he will screw up.
Anyway, in our game, I meant to leave 1 inf back in Smolensk. May I edit?

Crap, only just saw your message about Smolensk. This is the Italian turn I just did triplea_37891_4ita.tsvg, but of course I happy for you to do that edit, it’s my fault for not properly reading the topic posts.

Obviously the Italian armour wouldn’t be able to stroll into Smolensk, so that’ll need changing, I’d probably attack with 2 armour and the bomber, fortunately the bomber didn’t need to roll in the Syria attack as the bombardment took out the 1 infantry, so we could just leave everthing else as it is and roll for the Smolensk battle: 2 Armour, 1 Bomber vs 1 Infantry, 1 Fighter (assuming you scramble). What do you think?

[max334]

@flyingbadger sounds ok… I needed to leave 3 infantry, but I guess its too late.

[max334]

ok, lets just play on from your last file. I screwed up and will just have to swallow hard. What sucks about losing Moscow is all the extra money Germany will get.

[max334]

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[FlyingBadger]

@max334 said in L22 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis+7) vs max334 (Allies):

I needed to leave 3 infantry, but I guess its too late.

That’s fine with me.

I screwed up and will just have to swallow hard. What sucks about losing Moscow is all the extra money Germany will get.

I will put 3 infantry in Smolensk and replay the Italian turn as I’ll need to do something very aggresive. I don’t want to exploit this, it would be a cheap move. I’ve been on the wrong end of situations like this and I wouldn’t want you to feel like that.

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Rewind
This is my Italian move… triplea_37891_4it.tsvg
Scramble?.. How many?.. To each sea zone?..

[max334]

Much obliged. I was ready to suck it up though as I need to learn to stop crying and take it like a real man…lol. As far as Gibralter is concerned, I did think about you doing that, but then I must have thought it was too ballsy so I flew the 3rd ftr to Norway. Anyway scramble a ftr to each side and roll HIGH

[FlyingBadger]

@max334 The attack paid off, although it was out of desperation rather than planning or tactical genius. Axis are still pretty much screwed unless MARTI takes some serious pity on them.
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[max334]

@flyingbadger You did have odds and I’m glad it went well for you. But I’m guessing you feel the game in general is not going well for you and I tend to agree, but I’m not sure why that is. How do you see it and WHY is it that way?

[max334]

@flyingbadger triplea_37891_4italy (1).tsvg

[FlyingBadger]

@max334 said in L22 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis+7) vs max334 (Allies):

I’m guessing you feel the game in general is not going well for you and I tend to agree, but I’m not sure why that is. How do you see it and WHY is it that way?

Broadly, even though it is only round 4, it feels like Germany and Italy are near their high water marks, maybe Japan can keep expanding but it is under a lot of pressure from the north, east and south and may not have the units/IPCs to hold what it has and take more.

Looking back at the game…

GERMANY and ITALY

G1

The purchase of 6 artillery wass nice to boost offence against Russia on G3, but maybe in hindsight a navy purchase would have been better, seeing how the game has played out, but then the attack on Russia is weaker…
The attacks seemed a nice spread against France and the Royal Navy, although maybe it would be better to retreat from SZ114 even if it leaves the UK BB alive and join with a naval purchase.

UK1

The Taranto raid went well for Italy, it is a dicey attack now without an Allied bid, feel I should have done better in the Med given this position.

G2

Taking Gibraltar was fun, but perhaps not worth losing the remaining German navy for, as this meant losing control of the North Sea. Which would soon be a big problem…

I2

Great early position for Italy, with some fleet left and able to take Egypt.

R3

Russia retakes Vyborg in force, which is awkward for Germany to counter.

I3

Italy has secured Egypt, but the west Med is now open to the Allies, so Italy has to go defensive and can’t now threaten Africa and the Middle East, which would force UK to spend IPCs defensively and maybe take units away from India.

R4

Russia retakes Leningrad, and even feels confident enough able to put 3 untis in Siberia… not a good sign.

US4

US captures Norway, there’s no German transport so it can’t be attacked before it gets heavily reinforced. Combined with the lack of control around Leningrad, the northern front looks terminal.

JAPAN

J1/J2

I’m happy with the bid used on a TT for Japan, really helps get land troops onto the
mainland for J2 attacks. I still like these turns. Seemed to set up well for the J3 DOW with plenty of transports and 2 factories on the mainland to help create land units directly where they are needed.

R3

Great time for Rusia to attack… knowing Japan is about to declare war this puts maximum pressure on.

J3

Took all the DEI and Philippines. Couldn’t take back Yunan, but did get Szechwan to stop Chinese getting artillery.

J4

Feel like Japan did well to retake Manchuria and Korea, and push into Tsinghai. Most other moves were defensive though and Yunan is still held by China.

INITIAL CONCLUSIONS

I’m happy with the current situation around Pripet, the early purchase of Art was helpful with this, and can probably secure Leningrad and Ukraine on G5, but most IPCs will have to go into defending France and retaking (if possible) Scandinavia, so it’s unlikely that Garmany can seriously threaten Moscow or take down enough of the Russain economy.

Italy had to get desperate and attack Gibraltar, but only by weaking Egypt, so probably ends up losing both in a couple of turns. Really needed the Germans to have some naval force, complete freedom of movement in the Atlantic and the North Sea for the Allies means they can land early in the Med and Europe.

Maybe more IPCs into German ships would help, but then the attack into Russia is weaker. Maybe there were smarter decisons available with German air power that could help with this balance.

Italy can be menace but can’t hold both ends of the Med on it’s own.

I feel like Japan is doing okay. In PtV it has threats from all directions which it is hard to manage. I don’t know what I would do differently given a J3 DOW, maybe Japan is better going for a J1 or J2 DOW.

[FlyingBadger]

@max334 said in L22 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis+7) vs max334 (Allies):

@flyingbadger triplea_37891_4italy (1).tsvg

Is this the correct save file?

[max334]

@flyingbadger no, again I posted the wrong file. And the whole time I’m waiting for you… lol

[max334]

9 Mar 22 R4.tsvg

[max334]

@flyingbadger Thoughtful summation. I guess there is no simple answer…its a combination of a lot of things that have put the game in the position it is in now. I dont think you made any big blunders and the dice have been fair for the most part, so I’m thinking the problem lies in the multitude of smaller decision every player has to make. And getting better with that comes from experience. So you just need more games under your belt.
Anyway, we dont have to post results for this game as I feel you’re a very good person unlike some other players in this league. I like to play for fun and I’m not overly concerned with my league standing.

[FlyingBadger]

@max334 said in L22 PtV FlyingBadger (Axis+7) vs max334 (Allies):

I dont think you made any big blunders and the dice have been fair for the most part, so I’m thinking the problem lies in the multitude of smaller decision every player has to make. And getting better with that comes from experience. So you just need more games under your belt.

Yes, I think you are right, and I wonder if the bigger PtV map (specifically Russia and the Pacific) amplifies this as there is more to think about and a larger number of little decisions to make.

Anyway, we dont have to post results for this game as I feel you’re a very good person unlike some other players in this league. I like to play for fun and I’m not overly concerned with my league standing.

Thank you, that’s kind of you to say. I’m happy for the result to be posted, you would deserve the W, and the beauty of dice is that there’s always a chance…

Game on!

Intercept over Moscow?
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