I’m looking forward to seeing the Osnaz minis in particular… :wink:
Lets Talk Coastal Batteries
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but wouldn’t a capable defender have the battle close to the shore or a port so that the power of the guns would come into play. maybe only for the first round, like shore bombardment but opposite.
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yes but only when that happens….during invasions. Not during the time any enemy ships just passes into and out of the SZ that happens to border the land territory with coastal gun.
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but in order to truly control a sea zone you would have to attack the enemy ships somewhere near port in order to ensure they would fight you, amphbious invasion or not, so wouldn’t the guns be in range then.
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no not really, instead your blockading them like what was done in WW1 and the Civil War.
UK blocked the German high seas fleet by posting ships at ports adjacent to north sea. This would present a standoff, and the German player would also be ‘holding’ the British fleet. This is exactly what happened to the Tirpitz in Norway, as it held down many British units that could be used elsewhere.
This is good for the game.
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ok sounds good
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IL, I still say firing 2x @ 3 is to strong ( maybe you missed my above post). Could you explain why you would give them so much fire power against very expensive ships? Dose history reflect enemy ships taking that kind of hit when coming close to land or ports? I know they would be a good deterrent. Also will these batteries double as a bunker to give support to ground troops defending tt after a sea battle, or during a normal ground battle w/o ships. Or would you need a separate piece for this.
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Well the issue is they are mostly gonna get one crack at invading forces and players would just buy a tank for 5 bucks which can move around, so for two rolls of 3 preemptively and no movement it can make sence to buy a fortress for 6 IPC.
Consequently, if you had some gizmo firing at 4 that does not move costing say 3 i suspect most players will buy too many of these because its like an automated hit. The idea is to make them purchased in quantities in equal portion to other units RATHER than “hey these suckers at 3 IPC are really nice ill take 15 of them!”
They need some special thing about them or players may just buy a tank which can be more useful.
a 4 unit costing 3 seems like it will be bought too much, while a 3 unit costing 4-5 is not useful either.
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@Imperious:
Well the issue is they are mostly gonna get one crack at invading forces and players would just buy a tank for 5 bucks which can move around, so for two rolls of 3 preemptively and no movement it can make sence to buy a fortress for 6 IPC.
Consequently, if you had some gizmo firing at 4 that does not move costing say 3 i suspect most players will buy too many of these because its like an automated hit. The idea is to make them purchased in quantities in equal portion to other units RATHER than “hey these suckers at 3 IPC are really nice ill take 15 of them!”
They need some special thing about them or players may just buy a tank which can be more useful.
a 4 unit costing 3 seems like it will be bought too much, while a 3 unit costing 4-5 is not useful either.
I agree. Getting a bang for your buck is necessary for these new pieces. They should also be somewhat costly as well.
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yes so if its 3 rolls of three, what price then?
i say 6, but 8 may work if they are preemptive.
limit one per territory…yes i like 8 better.
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If it’s 3 rolls of 3, at least 8. That’s a pretty good unit. I’d but a ton of those, for sure.
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ok.
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I think 10 or 12 PICs is still reasonable.
What about an infantry defense modifier?
Also, how much damage can these puppies take?
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they can be built up in levels limited to the IPC of territory.
First level costs 8, each level after is 6 or 5. perhaps takes one infantry to control this fortress or it does not fire?
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Yeah. They can be captured as well. Maybe each fort can modify defense of inf based on the level.
Level 1 boosts i inf defense
Level 2 two inf, and so on.