Particular Combat movements for Subs and Planes

[RYNO87]

I watched a video on sub and tank combat movement and was confused- have 2 questions:

Can subs on a combat move go and bypass through a hostile sea zone 1st (with units) and then end in a friendly zone or unoccupied hostile sea zone?

Can planes do the same in a combat move? Take off, move through hostile territory 1st and then land in friendly territory?

[Midnight_Reaper]

If units will not be engaged in combat after the end of combat movement, than those units are not allowed to move. Only movements that result in combat are allowed to occur during combat movement.

If you want to move a unit without combat, then you can move that unit during non-combat movement, after the combat phase is done.

-Midnight_Reaper

[Panther]

@RYNO87 said in Particular Combat movements for Subs and Planes:

Can subs on a combat move go and bypass through a hostile sea zone 1st (with units) and then end in a friendly zone or unoccupied hostile sea zone?

Sea Units starting in hostile sea-zones can end their move in a friendly seazone, just to escape combat.

This is an exception to the general Combat Movement rules, @Midnight_Reaper mentioned.
So the answer to your special scenario depends on the situation the subs are in when beginning the turn.

Also they can’t move through a hostile seazone in case there is an enemy destroyer present. They would have to stop there in that case.

[RYNO87]

@Panther ok thanks! So in short when a sea unit starts in a hostile SZ it can use its combat move to retreat? Let’s say a sea unit retreats in their combat move from 1 hostile SZ into another hostile SZ with less enemies, does combat have to commence?

[Panther]

@RYNO87
No you can’t retreat during combat move phase. You can only retreat as attacker from a battle, provided the conditions are met (see retreat rules, page 17, step 6 from the General Combat Sequence). When retreating you can only do this into a seazone that must have been friendly at the beginning of the turn.

What we talked about before was a Combat Move to esacpe combat. That is not retreating.

[Krieghund]

@RYNO87 said in Particular Combat movements for Subs and Planes:

Let’s say a sea unit retreats in their combat move from 1 hostile SZ into another hostile SZ with less enemies, does combat have to commence?

Combat will result in any case in which units from opposing sides are in the same space during the Combat phase, regardless of how they got there.