Plastic Playing Pieces

[Woodstock]

@Constantinople:

They are fine!

Don’t worry about it!!!

They aren’t bent nor deformed, but the colors are too similar for those color deficient persons.

Just play the game and enjoy!!

My goodness what a bunch of whiners!

As IL and others stated earlier, for a “normal” game, the lack of quality is understandable.
For a $100 bucks, special, anniversary, SUPER DE LUXE edition…it’s not.

And can I have some french bread with my wine please?

[Flashman]

One of the reasons this this version is (probably) too expensive for me is the repeats yet again of units I already have more than enough of and (if the above posts are true) of better quality.

I’d definately have bought the game if it’d been also sold in an “expansion” form with ONLY the pieces unique to this version.
Given that the vast majority of potential buyers also have stacks of German infantry, UK Bombers etc why didn’t they just include the new pieces and board and keep down the costs? I’d probably have bought two sets for the new stuff, instead of which I’ll probably buy none.

Mind, they’d have to have made the Italian pieces in grey…

[jeffdestroyer]

I have a few USA INF that lean to far and they will not stand up.
1 Russian is decapitated.
1 Ger bomber has 1 wing shorter than the other.
a lot of pcs are showing white where the mold was connected.

It is not all pcs, just a few.

[TG Moses VI]

1 Russian is decapitated.
1 Ger bomber has 1 wing shorter than the other.

LOL!!!   :lol:  I’m sorry. 
I’m sure that the karma I receive for bursting out laughing when I read this means my copy of A&A:50 will have pieces that are super deformed.

I repeat my question… what sucks about the pieces?  I didn’t get my copy…

1.  A few/many of the pieces have visible defects.

2.  Some of the nation colors are eerily similar (Italy/Russia)

3.  Italy uses recycled pieces from other powers

4.  Japanese and Chinese infantry are visibly smaller

5.  Cruisers/destroyers/battleships all look alike sort of.

6.  The plastic used in the molds feels cheap

7.  The pieces are too small

8.  The detail of the pieces isn’t there compared to previous editions

9.  Only TWO cruisers for Italy.

10.  I forget.

[jeffdestroyer]

2 CA for Italy.  Larry gave you an extra one.

[TG Moses VI]

Corrected.

[Constantinople]

Man, if you guys were settling the West, you would never have gotten past New York City!

Heck, not even past Boston……    :-D

I can hear it now:  “The wagon is dirty, the food has maggots, there are Indians out there, we have to actually camp out!!???, I did not sign up for this. For $2 we don’t get silverware, steaks, a bed and 4 square meals?  Who do I complain to??”

Is there anything else to complain about?

Surely there must be more you can find in that big box to whine about!!

Look, if any of you have buyer’s regret, why don’t you donate the game to your local community center or high school game club or better yet pack up your awful pieces and send them to me!!

I’d be happy to take them off your hands!!  :lol:

It is a game folks!! Enjoy it!!

[tin_snips]

i don’t think you seem to understand, Con. , that people are only expecting better because this game is:

a) expensive

and b) supposedly this is a special edition to mark the 50th anniversary of AH

if this was just another version worth $60 or so, then no worries

maybe someone can come up with some kind of petition we can all sign, then send off to wizards? worth a try anyway

[AxisRoll]

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I was missing the IC’s and AA guns from my box.  i called, they said they would send.  now i need to look at all pieces to make sure they are good.

i cant wait to play the game.

[toblerone77]

it’s not all about esthetics. it’s that there are defective parts i’d be happier if I had some cardboard counters or the MB edition generic pieces.

and yes 100 dollars is expensive.

[MP84]

While we are talking about the pieces, does anyone have a positive ID on the Soviet bomber used in AA:50? I was thinking it might be a Petlyakov Pe-8, but the wingspan doesn’t really match the Pe-8.

[Adlertag]

@MP84:

While we are talking about the pieces, does anyone have a positive ID on the Soviet bomber used in AA:50? I was thinking it might be a Petlyakov Pe-8, but the wingspan doesn’t really match the Pe-8.

Talking about the russian bomber, what is the stuff it has attached under the wings ?

[Krieghund]

@MP84:

While we are talking about the pieces, does anyone have a positive ID on the Soviet bomber used in AA:50? I was thinking it might be a Petlyakov Pe-8, but the wingspan doesn’t really match the Pe-8.

Yes, that’s what it’s supposed to be.

[crsluggo]

If nothing else, the original MB Gamemaster pieces still work after years of use & abuse.

[toblerone77]

amen. my oldest a&a game is alive and ticking. sure the molds don’t look as cool but they function and stand up straight.

[Romulus]

I am Italian so go figure what I think about Italian miniatures, a bunch of recycled sculpts (we could call the game AA50 Recycled Edition).

However, after having posted various time about this argument, I have stopped to speak about that, because there are people that said to me that I am ranting, I am an ingrate and so on.

I would like to say only one thing: this is a lost opportunity. AA50 coul have been far better than it is right now. The lack of care in the detail show a lack of confidence in the product. I am still waiting my copy of the game purchased in pre-order and that has still to be delivered in Italy, added to the game, so maybe we could be inteterested? Who is the Marketing director at Wizard? Duffy Duck?
They had made a 50 years anniverary edition to exploit that fact and sell a game, that according to them should have no market. Wizard prefer to sell Magic Cards and D&D manuals, they make a lot of money with that. A&A is an annoyance. The miniatures, the map, the dice, the rules a lot of think that are alla sealed in a single box and sold only one time? No other thing to sell each month? Like the Magic cards expansions? Or the D&D manuals? This is not a good marketin for them.

A real great game has been realized and sold in a really bad way.

[Richter von Manthofen]

Opened the box yesterday - my pieces are generally OK, but a few had pent parts.

I think the problem is the relative hard plastic used for the pieces - a bit too brittle…

I also fear the “chinese workers” that cut the pieces hastened the job … should have been a better quality control…

(Guadalcanal seems to have better pieces - I also have RED Japanese Pieces from AAP - could use them fro my Italians ;))

I must admit I am not overly concerned - though a little more care should have been applied for an ANNIVERSARY edition.

I am still thinking I will simply use some AAM pieces with this game ;) (at least for the Italians - doubt I will need the Aquila)

Its hard to believe that the Russians (or Germans BTW) get a larger fleet than the Italians (5th largest fleet after US/UK/JP/FRANCE at the start of WWII)

I AM a bit disappointed, but overall the game looks like worth the pricetag.

[Flashman]

@Romulus:

I am Italian so go figure what I think about Italian miniatures, a bunch of recycled sculpts (we could call the game AA50 Recycled Edition).

However, after having posted various time about this argument, I have stopped to speak about that, because there are people that said to me that I am ranting, I am an ingrate and so on.

I would like to say only one thing: this is a lost opportunity. AA50 coul have been far better than it is right now. The lack of care in the detail show a lack of confidence in the product. I am still waiting my copy of the game purchased in pre-order and that has still to be delivered in Italy, added to the game, so maybe we could be inteterested? Who is the Marketing director at Wizard? Duffy Duck?
They had made a 50 years anniverary edition to exploit that fact and sell a game, that according to them should have no market. Wizard prefer to sell Magic Cards and D&D manuals, they make a lot of money with that. A&A is an annoyance. The miniatures, the map, the dice, the rules a lot of think that are alla sealed in a single box and sold only one time? No other thing to sell each month? Like the Magic cards expansions? Or the D&D manuals? This is not a good marketin for them.

A real great game has been realized and sold in a really bad way.

Agree with all this, the term half-baked seems most appropriate for this version.  It’s usually the case with products timed to coincide with an anniversary; lots of things get left unfinished or undone.
For example the map has positive improvements in Asia, and questionable changes in Europe, but Africa is virtually unchanged and still looks nothing like Africa in 1941.

Regarding the quality of pieces, I’m afraid this goes back a long way.  Remember the great looking pieces on the box back of the original MB version?
I already have around 52,657 A&A German infantry; I wanted quality Italian pieces not more of the same stuff.

[Romulus]

Flashman, half-backed is the correct term!

As you said, the game present a lot of improvements about the map, the rules, and the two available scenarios.
Hovewer miniatures are not at the same quality level. And this is a pity.

[Imperious Leader]

People: keep the comments going. I have word Larry is reading this thread and is taking corrective action on the next game.

I think its a new AA Europe.