@DarthMaximus:

But I don’t know if that battle is all that relevant.  The bom placement may be overrated.  So what if you slow down Japan.  Sub bid of six kills 1 J trn and there is no risk of not hitting and you could still place 2 inf elsewhere.
Germany is the main early threat.  Assuming no Russian ground units bid.  Ger takes the 3 Russian territories on G1.  G2 have a shot at holding Kar.  Even if they only trade, they can still stack Bel on G3.  Russia now has to defend Mos.  G4 you move to Euk.  Now Cauc and Mos have to be defended.  G5 you take cauc.
Obviously this is a bit simplistic but I don’t think the loss of 2 trns and a J dd is that big of a deal if the Russian front is collapsing.

I don’t know Darth. Slowing Japan’s expansion to a crawl and allowing Russia to focus entirely on Germany for the first 5 rounds or so goes a long way.

I’m assuming an aggressive G1.  Taking out Sz 2 and Sz 9.  If we are playing the odds game, the odds for these G1 attacks will go further in deciding the game then the 56% odds the Russian bom has.

I don’t know about that either. taking out 2 TP’s and a DD before Japan even gets a chance to use them is pretty crippling. Even sinking just the sz62 TP limits japan a bit.

I’d much rather have 4 units on the Russian front, then the bom.

That’s a matter of personal preference, though. The bomber bid gives Russia multiple options while the infantry bid only has 1 option(defending against Germany). The bomber is essentially an opportunistic unit. It can provide support for Allied interdiction of Japan’s navy as well as supporting it’s ground troops in the area if you see an opening to be aggressive on the ground. And the bomber will start saving Russia units in trades against Germany once it returns from the Pacific.

@CdnRanger:

Russia would have to send a couple of Inf (needed desperately at the front without a Russian ground unit bid) by Rus2 to India to protect it, and perhaps Uk lands the Egypt Fighter there (if it has survived the attack from Germany)

The US can also provide air support to India on US2 if they landed aircraft in Australia on US1.

The India crush by Japan is nasty but it gives China an extra round or two of survival, as Japan needs to go light on Phi, and the 3 Inf in Fic that took Burma are needed to attack and hold India turn 2.

The India crush also draws away a lot of Japan’s navy which the US and Russia can sometimes exploit in the North(threatening sz62 with air and navy, Russian ground attacks into China from Bury, etc)

TripleA Turn Summary for game: Napoleonic Empires, version: 4.0.7

Game History

Round :19

Combat Move - Spain
            1 Fusiliers moved from Estremadura to Algarve
                  Spain take Algarve from KingdomOfPrussia

Purchase Units - Spain
            Spain buy 2 Corvettes, 1 Frigate and 1 Fusiliers; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat - Spain

Non Combat Move - Spain
            1 Barque, 2 Battleships, 5 Brigantines, 5 Corvettes, 13 Cutters and 5 Frigates moved from SZ56 to SZ54
            1 General moved from Valencia to SZ56
            1 Barque and 1 General moved from SZ56 to SZ54
            1 General moved from SZ54 to Tangiers
            1 General moved from Tangiers to West Sahara
            1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Mortars moved from El Erg to Atlas
            1 Chasseurs, 2 Fusilierss and 3 Mariness moved from Valencia to New Castille
            1 Cuirassiers and 1 Horse_Artillery moved from Leon to New Castille
            2 Dragoonss moved from Catalonia to New Castille

Place Units - Spain
            1 Fusiliers placed in New Castille
            1 Frigate placed in SZ53
            1 Corvette placed in SZ54
            Spain undo move 2.
            1 Frigate placed in SZ54
            1 Corvette placed in SZ51

Turn Complete - Spain
            Spain collect 45 PUs; end with 48 PUs total
            Objective Balancing Convoy Income for balanced game: Spain met a national objective for an additional -10 PUs; end with 38 PUs

Territory Summary for Spain :

Sardinia : 1 flag, 2 Fortresss and 3 Mortella_Towers
    El Erg : 1 flag
    Tangiers : 1 flag, 1 General
    Algarve : 1 flag, 1 Fusiliers
    Oran : 1 flag
    Oporto : 1 flag
    SZ51 : 1 flag, 1 Corvette
    Atlas : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 1 Chasseurs and 1 Mortars
    SZ54 : 1 flag, 2 Barques, 2 Battleships, 5 Brigantines, 7 Corvettes, 14 Cutters and 6 Frigates
    West Sahara : 1 flag, 1 General
    Algeria : 1 flag
    Areg : 1 flag
    New Castille : 1 flag, 1 Capital, 1 Chasseurs, 1 Cuirassiers, 2 Dragoonss, 3 Fusilierss, 1 Horse_Artillery, 3 Mariness and 20 Mortella_Towers

Production/PUs Summary :

France : 57 / 51
    UnitedKingdom : 48 / 44
    Spain : 45 / 38
    KingdomOfPrussia : 27 / 31
    Sweden : 19 / 25
    AustrianEmpire : 39 / 42
    OttomanEmpire : 33 / 41
    Russia : 53 / 53

TripleA Turn Summary for game: New World Order, version: 1.8.7

Game History

Round :4

Combat Move - Italians
            1 unit repaired.
            3 Submarines moved from sz48 to sz49
            1 Artillery and 2 Infantry moved from Greece to S.Greece
            1 Battleship and 1 Transport moved from sz56 to sz52
            1 Infantry moved from Greece to sz52
            1 Infantry moved from sz52 to S.Greece
            1 Artillery and 2 Infantry moved from N.Tunesia to E.Algeria
            2 ArmoredCars, 1 Armour and 1 Infantry moved from W.Tunesia to E.Algeria
            2 ArmoredCars and 1 EarlyFighter moved from Tunis to E.Algeria
            1 Infantry moved from N.Algeria to E.Algeria
            2 Fighters moved from Greece to sz58
            2 EarlyFighters moved from sz56 to sz58
            1 Destroyer and 3 Submarines moved from sz56 to sz58
            1 Destroyer moved from sz56 to sz58
            1 Carrier moved from sz56 to sz58
            2 Mot.Infs moved from Genova to Toulouse
            2 Mot.Infs moved from St.Etienne to Normandy
            1 Armour and 2 Mot.Infs moved from St.Etienne to Toulouse
            2 EarlyFighters moved from Marseille to Normandy

Purchase Units - Italians
            Trigger ItaliansSpecial: Italians has their production frontier changed to: productionItaliansSpecial
            Italians buy 1 Bomber, 13 Infantry and 3 Transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Italians
            Battle in sz49
                Italians attack with 3 Submarines
                ColonialFrench defend with 1 Submarine and 1 Transport
                    Italians roll dice for 3 Submarines in sz49, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    1 Transport owned by the ColonialFrench lost in sz49
                    ColonialFrench roll dice for 1 Submarine in sz49, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Submarine owned by the ColonialFrench lost in sz49
                Italians win with 3 Submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for ColonialFrench: 1 Submarine and 1 Transport
            Battle in sz58
                Italians attack with 1 Carrier, 2 Destroyers, 2 EarlyFighters, 2 Fighters and 3 Submarines
                British defend with 1 Cruiser and 3 Destroyers
                    Italians roll dice for 3 Submarines in sz58, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Carrier, 2 Destroyers, 2 EarlyFighters and 2 Fighters in sz58, round 1 :  5/7 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 Cruiser and 3 Destroyers in sz58, round 1 :  2/4 hits
                    1 Cruiser owned by the British , 3 Destroyers owned by the British and 2 Submarines owned by the Italians lost in sz58
                Italians win with 1 Carrier, 2 Destroyers, 2 EarlyFighters, 2 Fighters and 1 Submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 32
                Casualties for British: 1 Cruiser and 3 Destroyers
                Casualties for Italians: 2 Submarines
            Battle in Toulouse
                Italians attack with 1 Armour and 4 Mot.Infs
                French defend with 1 Infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Armour and 4 Mot.Infs in Toulouse, round 1 :  1/5 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 Infantry in Toulouse, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 Infantry owned by the French and 1 Mot.Inf owned by the Italians lost in Toulouse
                Italians win, taking Toulouse from French with 1 Armour and 3 Mot.Infs remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for French: 1 Infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 Mot.Inf
            Battle in E.Algeria
                Italians attack with 4 ArmoredCars, 1 Armour, 1 Artillery, 1 EarlyFighter and 4 Infantry
                ColonialFrench defend with 2 Armours, 1 Artillery and 4 Infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 4 ArmoredCars, 1 Armour, 1 Artillery, 1 EarlyFighter and 4 Infantry in E.Algeria, round 1 :  3/11 hits
                    ColonialFrench roll dice for 2 Armours, 1 Artillery and 4 Infantry in E.Algeria, round 1 :  3/7 hits
                    3 Infantry owned by the Italians and 3 Infantry owned by the ColonialFrench lost in E.Algeria
                    Italians roll dice for 4 ArmoredCars, 1 Armour, 1 Artillery, 1 EarlyFighter and 1 Infantry in E.Algeria, round 2 :  2/8 hits
                    ColonialFrench roll dice for 2 Armours, 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry in E.Algeria, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    1 Artillery owned by the ColonialFrench , 1 Infantry owned by the Italians and 1 Infantry owned by the ColonialFrench lost in E.Algeria
                    Italians roll dice for 4 ArmoredCars, 1 Armour, 1 Artillery and 1 EarlyFighter in E.Algeria, round 3 :  2/7 hits
                    ColonialFrench roll dice for 2 Armours in E.Algeria, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    2 Armours owned by the ColonialFrench lost in E.Algeria
                Italians win, taking E.Algeria from ColonialFrench with 4 ArmoredCars, 1 Armour, 1 Artillery and 1 EarlyFighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Italians: 4 Infantry
                Casualties for ColonialFrench: 2 Armours, 1 Artillery and 4 Infantry
            Battle in S.Greece
                Italians attack with 1 Artillery and 3 Infantry
                ColonialFrench defend with 1 AAGun, 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Battleship in S.Greece, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 Infantry owned by the ColonialFrench lost in S.Greece
                    Italians roll dice for 1 Artillery and 3 Infantry in S.Greece, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    ColonialFrench roll dice for 1 Artillery in S.Greece, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Artillery owned by the ColonialFrench lost in S.Greece
                Italians win, taking S.Greece from ColonialFrench with 1 Artillery and 3 Infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for ColonialFrench: 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry
            Battle in Normandy
                Italians attack with 2 EarlyFighters and 2 Mot.Infs
                French defend with 1 Infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 2 EarlyFighters and 2 Mot.Infs in Normandy, round 1 :  0/4 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 Infantry in Normandy, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 2 EarlyFighters and 2 Mot.Infs in Normandy, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    French roll dice for 1 Infantry in Normandy, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Infantry owned by the French lost in Normandy
                Italians win, taking Normandy from French with 2 EarlyFighters and 2 Mot.Infs remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for French: 1 Infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 EarlyFighters moved from Normandy to Versailles
            2 ArmoredCars moved from Genova to St.Etienne
            1 Infantry moved from Marseille to St.Etienne
            1 AAGun moved from Marseille to Genova
            1 AAGun moved from St.Etienne to Marseille
            1 Artillery and 1 Elite moved from Marseille to St.Etienne
            1 Artillery and 1 Infantry moved from Tunis to N.Tunesia
            1 Transport moved from sz40 to sz42
            1 Artillery and 1 Infantry moved from Firenze to sz42
            1 Artillery, 1 Infantry and 1 Transport moved from sz42 to sz40
            1 Artillery and 1 Infantry moved from sz40 to N.Tunesia
            1 EarlyFighter moved from E.Algeria to Tunis
            4 Artillerys and 4 Infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            2 Armours moved from Serbia to Greece
            3 Transports moved from sz56 to sz49
            2 Fighters moved from sz58 to Greece

Place Units - Italians
            3 Transports placed in sz49
            1 Bomber placed in Taranto
            2 Infantry placed in Greece
            4 Infantry placed in Tunis
            3 Infantry placed in Marseille
            4 Infantry placed in Genova

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 64 PUs; end with 64 PUs total

Territory Summary for Italians :

Roma : 1 flag, 1 AAGun and 1 Factory
    Versailles : 1 flag, 2 EarlyFighters
    Toulouse : 1 flag, 1 Armour and 3 Mot.Infs
    Normandy : 1 flag, 2 Mot.Infs
    Greece : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 2 Armours, 4 Artillerys, 1 Factory, 2 Fighters and 6 Infantry
    Genova : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 1 Factory and 4 Infantry
    Lvov : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 2 Artillerys and 1 Infantry
    Taranto : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 1 Bomber and 1 Factory
    St.Etienne : 1 flag, 2 ArmoredCars, 1 Artillery, 1 Elite and 1 Infantry
    Bosnia : 1 flag
    Lyon : 1 flag
    N.Algeria : 1 flag
    Tunis : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 1 EarlyFighter, 1 Factory and 4 Infantry
    Firenze : 1 flag, 2 Infantry
    Bordeaux : 1 flag
    Venezia : 1 flag, 1 Factory
    Macedonia : 1 flag
    W.Tunesia : 1 flag
    N.Tunesia : 1 flag, 2 Artillerys and 2 Infantry
    Kroatia : 1 flag
    Marseille : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 1 Factory and 3 Infantry
    E.Algeria : 1 flag, 4 ArmoredCars, 1 Armour and 1 Artillery
    S.Greece : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 1 Artillery and 3 Infantry
    sz40 : 1 flag, 1 Destroyer and 1 Transport
    sz49 : 1 flag, 3 Submarines and 6 Transports
    sz52 : 1 flag, 1 Battleship and 1 Transport
    sz58 : 1 flag, 1 Carrier, 2 Destroyers, 2 EarlyFighters and 1 Submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 117 / 117
    Russians : 100 / 100
    Italians : 64 / 64
    French : 3 / 0
    ColonialFrench : 15 / 18
    Finns : 10 / 14
    British : 89 / 93
    Romanians : 16 / 18
    Americans : 77 / 77

@Veqryn:

if any of you think that i can somehow control, or stop, cow from posting

rest assured that i can not, though i’ve tried

this will be, like, the 8th time i’ve yelled at him for posting stuff here that should be private messages

COW seriously! private message!

Well, it’s not like his J1 moves were very subtle. If he keeps getting fantastic dice, it’s not going to matter much, anyway.

Wondering if a fighter in Scotland would do the trick. I’ll go with 11.

I don’t doubt that.  :lol: I think he likes to argue just for the sake of arguing. In all honesty, I can’t see this ending well.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: New World Order, version: 1.8.7

Game History

Round :4

Combat Move - Germans
            1 Infantry moved from Dijon to Bourges
                  Germans take Bourges from French
            4 Infantry moved from Dijon to Versailles
                  Germans take Versailles from French
            8 Panzers moved from Paris to Versailles
            8 Panzers moved from Versailles to Lille
            3 Infantry moved from Reims to Lille
            3 Infantry moved from Frankfurt to Belgium
            2 EarlyFighters moved from Reims to Belgium
            1 EarlyFighter moved from Frankfurt to Belgium
            2 Mot.Infs moved from Muenchen to Lille
            1 Infantry moved from Frankfurt to Netherlands
            2 Infantry moved from Koeln to Netherlands
            3 EarlyFighters moved from Frankfurt to Netherlands
            1 Fighter moved from Berlin to Netherlands
            2 EarlyFighters moved from S.Finnland to sz21
            1 Bomber moved from N.Finnland to sz21
            1 EarlyFighter moved from Lvov to Riga
            19 Infantry moved from Lvov to Ukrainskaya
            3 Transports moved from sz28 to sz27
            1 Artillery and 4 Infantry moved from Gdansk to sz27
            1 Panzer moved from Litovskaya to sz27
            1 Artillery, 4 Infantry, 1 Panzer and 3 Transports moved from sz27 to sz28
            1 Artillery, 4 Infantry and 1 Panzer moved from sz28 to Vyborg
            3 Panzers moved from Belorussia to Ukrainskaya
            2 Artillerys, 10 Infantry and 3 Panzers moved from Belorussia to Brest
            1 Panzer moved from Litovskaya to Ukrainskaya
            4 Infantry and 1 Panzer moved from Litovskaya to Riga
            4 Infantry and 7 Panzers moved from Litovskaya to Brest

Purchase Units - Germans
            Trigger GermansSpecial: Germans has their production frontier changed to: productionGermansSpecial
            Germans buy 2 Artillerys, 2 Bunkers, 1 Fighter, 42 Infantry, 4 Mot.Infs, 1 Panzer and 1 T.Boat; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Lille
                Germans attack with 3 Infantry, 2 Mot.Infs and 8 Panzers
                British defend with 1 AAGun, 2 Artillerys and 7 Infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 Infantry, 2 Mot.Infs and 8 Panzers in Lille, round 1 :  2/13 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 Artillerys and 7 Infantry in Lille, round 1 :  2/9 hits
                    2 Infantry owned by the Germans and 2 Infantry owned by the British lost in Lille
                1 Infantry, 2 Mot.Infs and 8 Panzers retreated to Versailles
                British win with 2 Artillerys and 5 Infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 Infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 Infantry
            Battle in Riga
                Germans attack with 1 EarlyFighter, 4 Infantry and 1 Panzer
                Russians defend with 1 Armour and 2 Infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 EarlyFighter, 4 Infantry and 1 Panzer in Riga, round 1 :  1/6 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 Armour and 2 Infantry in Riga, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    1 Infantry owned by the Russians lost in Riga
                    Germans roll dice for 1 EarlyFighter, 4 Infantry and 1 Panzer in Riga, round 2 :  1/6 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 Armour and 1 Infantry in Riga, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 Infantry owned by the Germans and 1 Infantry owned by the Russians lost in Riga
                    Germans roll dice for 1 EarlyFighter, 3 Infantry and 1 Panzer in Riga, round 3 :  2/5 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 Armour in Riga, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Armour owned by the Russians lost in Riga
                Germans win, taking Riga from Russians with 1 EarlyFighter, 3 Infantry and 1 Panzer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 Infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 Armour and 2 Infantry
            Battle in Ukrainskaya
                Germans attack with 19 Infantry and 4 Panzers
                Russians defend with 1 Artillery and 3 Infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 19 Infantry and 4 Panzers in Ukrainskaya, round 1 :  6/23 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 Artillery and 3 Infantry in Ukrainskaya, round 1 :  1/4 hits
                    1 Infantry owned by the Germans , 3 Infantry owned by the Russians and 1 Artillery owned by the Russians lost in Ukrainskaya
                Germans win, taking Ukrainskaya from Russians with 18 Infantry and 4 Panzers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 Infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 Artillery and 3 Infantry
            Battle in Brest
                Germans attack with 2 Artillerys, 14 Infantry and 10 Panzers
                Russians defend with 1 Infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 14 Infantry and 10 Panzers in Brest, round 1 :  9/26 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 Infantry in Brest, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Infantry owned by the Russians lost in Brest
                Germans win, taking Brest from Russians with 2 Artillerys, 14 Infantry and 10 Panzers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Russians: 1 Infantry
            Battle in Belgium
                Germans attack with 3 EarlyFighters and 3 Infantry
                British defend with 2 Infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 EarlyFighters and 3 Infantry in Belgium, round 1 :  1/6 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 Infantry in Belgium, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    1 Infantry owned by the British lost in Belgium
                    Germans roll dice for 3 EarlyFighters and 3 Infantry in Belgium, round 2 :  1/6 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 Infantry in Belgium, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Infantry owned by the British lost in Belgium
                Germans win, taking Belgium from British with 3 EarlyFighters and 3 Infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for British: 2 Infantry
            Battle in sz21
                Germans attack with 1 Bomber and 2 EarlyFighters
                Russians defend with 2 Transports
                    Germans roll dice for 1 Bomber and 2 EarlyFighters in sz21, round 1 :  1/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 Transports in sz21, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    1 Transport owned by the Russians lost in sz21
                    Germans roll dice for 1 Bomber and 2 EarlyFighters in sz21, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 Transport in sz21, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 Transport owned by the Russians lost in sz21
                Germans win with 1 Bomber and 2 EarlyFighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Russians: 2 Transports
            Battle in Netherlands
                Germans attack with 3 EarlyFighters, 1 Fighter and 3 Infantry
                British defend with 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 EarlyFighters, 1 Fighter and 3 Infantry in Netherlands, round 1 :  2/7 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry in Netherlands, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    1 Infantry owned by the British and 1 Artillery owned by the British lost in Netherlands
                Germans win, taking Netherlands from British with 3 EarlyFighters, 1 Fighter and 3 Infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry
            Battle in Vyborg
                Germans attack with 1 Artillery, 4 Infantry and 1 Panzer
                Russians defend with 3 Armours
                    Germans roll dice for 1 Battleship and 1 Cruiser in Vyborg, round 1 :  2/2 hits
                    2 Armours owned by the Russians lost in Vyborg
                    Germans roll dice for 1 Artillery, 4 Infantry and 1 Panzer in Vyborg, round 1 :  2/6 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 Armour in Vyborg, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 Infantry owned by the Germans and 1 Armour owned by the Russians lost in Vyborg
                Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 1 Artillery, 3 Infantry and 1 Panzer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for Germans: 1 Infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 Armours

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 EarlyFighters moved from sz21 to Murmansk
            2 Destroyers and 1 T.Boat moved from sz27 to sz28
            1 Submarine moved from sz26 to sz28
            1 EarlyFighter moved from Riga to Litovskaya
            7 Infantry moved from Koenigsberg to Litovskaya
            1 AAGun moved from Koenigsberg to Warzawa
            2 Infantry moved from Gdansk to Koenigsberg
            6 Infantry moved from Rostock to Gdansk
            1 AAGun moved from Paris to Versailles
            2 EarlyFighters moved from Belgium to Bremen
            1 AAGun and 5 Infantry moved from Koeln to Bremen
            2 Infantry moved from Hamburg to Bremen
            4 Infantry moved from Hamburg to Rostock
            2 Infantry moved from Warzawa to Belorussia
            1 Artillery and 8 Infantry moved from E.Czech to Lvov
            1 Elite and 8 Infantry moved from W.Czech to E.Czech
            3 Infantry moved from Nuernberg to W.Czech
            1 Transport moved from sz40 to sz38
            1 Infantry moved from Baleares to sz38
            1 Infantry and 1 Transport moved from sz38 to sz40
            1 Infantry moved from sz40 to N.Tunesia
            1 Bomber moved from Baleares to Frankfurt
            6 ArmoredCars moved from Berlin to Gdansk
            1 Destroyer and 2 Submarines moved from sz37 to sz40
            1 Bomber moved from sz21 to N.Finnland
            1 Fighter moved from Netherlands to Bremen
            1 EarlyFighter moved from Belgium to Paris
            3 EarlyFighters moved from Netherlands to Bremen

Place Units - Germans
            2 Artillerys, 1 Bunker and 6 Infantry placed in Paris
            Germans undo move 1.
            1 Bunker and 8 Infantry placed in Paris
            4 Infantry placed in Frankfurt
            1 Bunker and 5 Infantry placed in Bremen
            2 Mot.Infs placed in Muenchen
            4 Infantry placed in Warzawa
            6 Infantry placed in W.Czech
            6 Infantry placed in Rostock
            Germans undo move 5.
            2 Artillerys and 2 Infantry placed in Warzawa
            Germans undo move 3.
            1 T.Boat placed in sz25
            1 Bunker and 4 Infantry placed in Bremen
            Germans undo move 8.
            1 Bunker, 1 Fighter and 3 Infantry placed in Bremen
            3 Infantry placed in Nuernberg
            10 Infantry, 2 Mot.Infs and 1 Panzer placed in Berlin

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 117 PUs; end with 117 PUs total

Territory Summary for Germans :

Berlin : 1 flag, 1 Factory, 10 Infantry, 2 Mot.Infs and 1 Panzer
    Brest : 1 flag, 2 Artillerys, 14 Infantry and 10 Panzers
    Versailles : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 5 Infantry, 2 Mot.Infs and 8 Panzers
    Bremen : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 1 Bunker, 5 EarlyFighters, 1 Factory, 2 Fighters and 11 Infantry
    Krakow : 1 flag
    Dijon : 1 flag
    Nuernberg : 1 flag, 1 Factory and 3 Infantry
    Montpellier : 1 flag
    N.Finnland : 1 flag, 1 Bomber
    W.Czech : 1 flag, 1 Factory and 9 Infantry
    Gdansk : 1 flag, 6 ArmoredCars and 6 Infantry
    Koenigsberg : 1 flag, 2 Infantry
    Lvov : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 1 Artillery and 8 Infantry
    Denmark : 1 flag
    Paris : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 1 Bunker, 1 EarlyFighter, 1 Factory and 8 Infantry
    E.Czech : 1 flag, 1 Elite and 8 Infantry
    Litovskaya : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 1 EarlyFighter and 7 Infantry
    Belgium : 1 flag, 3 Infantry
    Lodz : 1 flag
    C.Poland : 1 flag
    Frankfurt : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 1 Bomber, 1 Factory and 4 Infantry
    Rostock : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 1 Factory and 10 Infantry
    Riga : 1 flag, 3 Infantry and 1 Panzer
    Reims : 1 flag, 1 AAGun
    Vyborg : 1 flag, 1 Artillery, 3 Infantry and 1 Panzer
    Muenchen : 1 flag, 1 Factory and 2 Mot.Infs
    Belorussia : 1 flag, 1 AAGun and 2 Infantry
    N.Tunesia : 1 flag, 1 Artillery and 2 Infantry
    Netherlands : 1 flag, 3 Infantry
    Ukrainskaya : 1 flag, 18 Infantry and 4 Panzers
    Metz : 1 flag
    Bourges : 1 flag, 1 Infantry
    Murmansk : 1 flag, 2 EarlyFighters
    Warzawa : 1 flag, 1 AAGun, 2 Artillerys, 1 Factory and 2 Infantry
    Corsica : 1 flag
    Baleares : 1 flag
    sz25 : 1 flag, 1 T.Boat
    sz28 : 1 flag, 1 Battleship, 1 Cruiser, 2 Destroyers, 1 Submarine, 1 T.Boat and 3 Transports
    sz40 : 1 flag, 1 Destroyer, 2 Submarines and 1 Transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 117 / 117
    Russians : 88 / 106
    Italians : 57 / 62
    French : 7 / 0
    ColonialFrench : 18 / 18
    Finns : 16 / 14
    British : 89 / 93
    Romanians : 18 / 18
    Americans : 77 / 77

Alright, now let me try to remember the new bid system. When I bid, it means how much I’m going to give you to play the allies, right? Ok. Let’s go with 9.

Well, since you like to fight the power, if you became the power, does that mean you’d have to fight yourself?

I have to go, but hopefully I can get in touch with my partner to run our turns tomorrow.

@MrMalachiCrunch:

This thread started out with the south china sea. But of immediate concern would by Syria. I am a news junkie I will admit, but of a historical bent mainly. � Some events play out slowly, Syria has been playing out for over a year in it’s most recent throes.

A few very recent events are changing things and I think we are seeing a tipping point.

1. �The rebels now actually control ground whereas months ago they did not. One reason why they said Syria was different from Libya, no territory held unlike Benghazi. � Now that is not true.

2. No unified control/leadership unlike the situation in Libya, that just changed a few days ago. �Now country after country is starting to recognize somebody other than Assad as the true representatives of the Syrian people.

Not only that, but I also read somewhere recently that the rebels had overrun 3 military bases including one near Aleppo that contained a couple tanks, a half dozen trucks, and a whole mess of munitions complete with rockets. Not that the vehicles wouldn’t become a priority target for the Syrian air force, but if the rebels could field some of that artillery, it would make a big difference in the balance of power.