Lets Talk Flack Towers

@crusaderiv:

Well heavy artillery for me means katyusha rockets,nebelwefer and 155mm long tom.
heavy artillery attack and defend on 3. May choose is target in the first round fo combat.

that just seems like another way to do regulare artillery.

And I agree I would rather have a rocket artillery unit than siege guns, but i think rocket artillery would have a more offenisve nature, not just generaly good.

:wink:

@Bardoly:

@Upside-down_Turtle:

You know, a 1-1-2-3 jeep actually makes a good justification for truck pieces being Motorized Infantry at 1-2-2-4, does it not?

Although, were there really whole units made up of jeeps?  In North Africa, maybe.  Perhaps Trucks ought to 1-1-2-3 as well.

Well, it seems that every army needs its fodder units, so I would rather have 1 armor unit 3-3-2-5 and 1 jeep unit 1-1-2-3 for a total IPC cost of 8 than have 2 motorized infantry at 2-2-2-4 at the same IPC cost of 8, because when you lose the first hit, then you still have a 3 attacking/defending.  Now, if you give the motorized infantry the ability to be upgraded by artillery units, then it may be more balanced, but getting the artillery to keep up with them is a different matter.

I agree.  If I had 30 IPCs to spend, I’d buy 5 jeeps and 3 tanks.

@Imperious:

slippery slope will follow that kind of rule. it should be one and if you do with 2-3 or even 4 it turns into WW3 ICBM game. Thats not really AA. It could be fun once, but a trick to be exploited. In all house rules you have to get away with the idea of allowing players to buy tons of items that can break a game. This would be the case with the old discussion on paratroopers and that “buck Rodgers exploit”.

I willl try to play a game soon with my a-bomb rules( which is really yours) , and tell you how it goes

This is my ground unit set-up.  I’m using the FMG AA Gun (nation specific) as a second artillery piece.

Piece              Name                   Attack         Defense        Move        Cost             Special

Soldier 1        Infantry                   1                 2                 1             3

Soldier 2        Commando               2                 2                 1             4              Sea or Air attack +1

Gun 1            Artillery                    2                 2                 1             4             +1 for 1 infantry

Gun 2            Heavy Artillery          3                 2                 1             5             +1 for 2 infantry

Truck             Motorized Inf.           1                 2                 2             4             Can Blitz w/ artillery

Half-Track      Mech. Infantry           2                 2                 2             4             Can Blitz

Tank 1           Armor                      3                 3                 2             6             Can Blitz

Tank 2           Heavy Armor             4                 4                 2             8             Can Blitz

Yeah.  They can be captured as well.  Maybe each fort can modify defense of inf based on the level.

Level 1 boosts i inf defense

Level 2 two inf, and so on.

cost 7, if VS land targets:

these are 3-3 units moving 2 and each plane boosts the tank +1 at 1:1 basis

if VS Sea targets:

3-3 units moving 2 ( carrier based)…also possible modifier for attacks on surface ships ( not sure)

They cant move from land or from sea to attack the other on the same turn. So carrier planes cant attack land targets unless they fly first to land on the turn before and vice versa.

this will result is fighters staying on land where they belong with a few on carriers as escorts

my problem with German or Russian shock troops as infantry is that those units had alot of tanks, so why not just represent them with tanks.

For special  infantry they should be able to fall into one of the four catagories i already listed.