AA50: House Rules

great, thanks alot, it is going to take me a few weeks though too come up with exactly what I want

after a few games you might to change the values again
I recommend you buy some chips and freely customize the income values
in this scenario IL could give you a map with no income values

A little off topic, but IL what models from stytrex do you recommend too represent the extra units for each nation

In perticular I wanted too know what you recommend for representing Mechanized Infatry, Self-propelled artilery, Heavy Tanks, Light Crusiers, Battlecrsuers, and escort carrires

OK, IL, I still think there should be a light and heavy crusier, but whatever the math says

I have been working on a D12 system of combat, with unquie unit values for most nations, and I was thinking of having the start date be set back too winter 1939-1940

Poland has already been taken so you dont have too have any scripted stuff like, Germany must conquer poland before it takes france, but it would still be early on in the war. I am also immagining that in this scenario the Soveit Union player has different goals and objectives than the rest of the allies.

Anyways, IL, what new territories would you add too AA50 for this start date, I wish none had to be added, but then the game just would not feel right. I am currently reading Heinz Gudarian’s Panzer Leader which has sparked in me a greater interest in the Battle of France, I was thinking France would be divided up like in AAE but with a fourth terriotry that borders Belgium, the English Channel, Eastern France, and France. If I did this I think i would make another rule that you can not amphibiously asssault Nothwestern Europe(I think thats accuarte)

I was think thinking Siam, Iraq and Syria sould also be terriotries just so the political borders look right, but then again, I like the AA50 board and dont want too change it too much except for the new French territories

Also new units i was thinkingg about,
this is D12 and units cost about double ( would only be used in a 1940/1939 setup obviously)
                       C    M     A  D   
Infantry Tanks  10  2      5  4  Only France and UK
Panzer I/II        10  2      7  3  Germany

Other Tanks values
                      C  M  A  D
Shermans        10  2  6  6  US and UK
T-34/KV-1        8  2  5  7  USSR
Panzer III/IV/V  11  2  8  6  Germany
Light tanks      10  2  5  3    Japan and Italy, maybe US too instead of Infantry tanks

I have a number of other changes too tank combat and will post in a month or two when I have finilized them. but was just wondering if you wanted too make a map for circa February 1940.

fine, dont like my idea’s

i am just saying why not leave the half-assed jobs for Larry Harris and Wizards of the Coast

although your house rules are great they do not attract the “casual” A&A player and leave players who are genuinly interested in World War 2 wanting more. You expect people to pay over a hundered dollars too print out your map so they can play with six pages of additonal rules!

If your going to go through the trouble of making a great map, make a great game to go along with it

and i agree 1939 is no fun, put i think an early 1940 setup could make the game a lot more historical and varied. I will explain exactly why if you want.

In  my opinon A&A should be a six to ten hour game that is highly varied. Alliances should take their turns together and they should be timed. 15 minutes before combat, 10 minutes after.

c me and my buddy, I have all the good idea’s, he knows all about the magic(he calls it mathimatics) we will post our variant in a few months, you will like it. I promise.

by the way, why dont you just tell me how to edit your map, then i can stop annoying you.

This is my own version of custom rules to make the game more interesting and open up different areas of play (IMHO). I also hope to achieve a bit more historical accuracy. What I need help with primarily, is balancing these rules. I want the Axis to have the advantage earlier in the game, and the Allies to have time on their side, just like the real war.

I would appreciate any input in helping to balance my version. I would like to do this primarily by adding units at the start of the game as needed vs. changing the rules (though I am open to comments about changing/modifying/adding to the rules/advantages themselves). What do you guys think, do the Allies or Axis need more starting units….How do you think it will play out?

I would especially appreciate any comments by Cmdr Jennifer and/or Imperious Leader, as you both seem to have a great deal of experience with A&A ☺

General Rules

1. No New Factories
2. No BB bombardment
3. Fighter escort rules from A&A Europe
4. Denmark counts as a straight* (However: Subs can still pass in and out)
5. Subs can fire 1 sneak shot each at enemy units passing through them (Destroyers still cancel this out)
6. Subs cant kill other subs
7. Can choose which technology you want to develop, but doesn’t take affect until the following round
8. Black Sea closed to the Mediterranean
9. New technology- Heavy Tanks- Defend at a 4
10. *Note- These rules are not meant to be used with NO’s

Germany

1. Upgrade Cruiser to BB
2. Atlantic Wall- Infantry defends at 3 for first round against amphibious assault in Northwestern Europe, France, and Norway
3. Starting Sub in SZ 11

Italy
1. Destroyer starting with rest of Med. fleet

Japan

1. Starting IC in Kiangsu
2. Lightning Assault for first round of game only- Transports can offload, move, then offload 2nd unit in a different territory

UK

1. IC starting in India and Australia
2. Cruiser starting with BB and Transport

Soviet Union

1. Lend-Lease- Can convert any allied Land unit to Russian at beginning of Russian players turn if they start in Russian territory (Tanks, Artillery, Infantry, and AA)
2. No starting Submarine
3. Starting Destroyer and Transport in Black Sea

US

1. Marines- Attack at 2 during first round of amphibious assault

China

1. Receive 1 infantry per territory (Chinese) held at end of turn
2. 5 Additional infantry at beginning of game
   a. 1 additional in Suiyuan
   b. 1 additional in Hupeh
   c. 1 additional in Sikang
   d. 1 additional in Ningxia
   e. 1 additional in Chinghai

Not sure how good these ideas are, but I feel they would add some to the game.  This is for 41 setup.

Setup Changes
1- Change German cruiser to BB, add 1 inf to Algeria, 1 inf to Norway
2- Remove Russian factories from Karelia and Caucasus.  Add 2 inf in Urals
3- Add 1 transport and 1 destroyer to SZ 62 for Japan.  Add 1 BB to SZ 62
4- Add 2 UK inf to Egypt, add BB to Indian ocean.  Add 1 DD to SZ 2
5- Add 2 destroyers to Italian fleet
6- Add 2 China INF to 3 empty territories
7- Add 1 destroyer to pearl, add 1 cruiser to LA SZ

The purpose behind these changes is to reduce the turn 1 annihilation of forces giving players time to react.  I do not like someone being knocked out of a theater of the war on turn 1 or 2 no matter what they do.

Rule Changes
1- Nations may deploy inf in the following areas as if they possessed an IC there.
Germany - Algeria and Finland.
Russia - Karelia, Caucasus, Yakut.
Japan - FIC, Manchuria
UK - India, Canada, Australia, Egypt, SAF.
Italy - Libya
US - None

2- Expendable Transports - all Japaneses transports except the 2 that begin in SZ 62 are removed from the board at the end of J1.

3- Income is collected at the beginning of your turn.

4- SZ 5 is considered a strait, no units can enter SZ 15.

This is to promote global warfare as well as slowing down Japan.  This will also hurt/help the UK in the income department as they will not have 43 IPC to spend on turn 1, hence the extra navy.

Unit Changes

1- Naval Costs are reduced
Transports - 6
Destroyers - 7
Cruisers - 11
AC - 12

2- Destroyers only allow 1 plane to attack against subs.

3- Artillery increases one inf to 2 attack, 3 defense.

4- Inf can be produced at an IC ignoring bombing damage done.  For example, I have a factory in germany with 4 damage, i can produce 4 inf and 6 armor without repairing.

5- Bombers can land on carriers as well as fighters.  Same limit of 2 planes per carrier.

6- Naval bombardment removed.  Changed to function similar to artillery, cruisers add 1 to 1 inf attack, battleships add 1 to 2 inf attack.

NO changes

Germany - Gain 5 additional IPC if axis control Algeria, Norway, and Finland.
Russia - Gain 5 additional IPC if allies control France.
Japan - Gain 5 additional IPC if there are no Japanese units in red territories.
UK - Gain 5 additional IPC if allies control Algeria.
Italy - Gain 5 additional IPC if axis control Italy and Balkans
China - Gain 2 inf if allies control Burma

Technology

When buying a researcher you choose what tech for them to research.  At the begining of each round roll 1 die per researcher and apply the value to a tech pool for that tech.  Once the pool equals or exceeds the value of the tech, you gain it and the researchers for that tech are lost.  You can research toward more than 1 tech at a time if you choose.  Values and effect are listed below.

(10) Improved artillery- each art may now support 2 inf to attack at 2 and defend at 3.

(20) Rockets- Standard

(20) Paratroopers - Standard

(15) Increased Factory Production - Standard

(10) War Bonds - Standard

(15) Mechanized Infantry - Standard

Air/ Naval

(10) Radar- Standard

(15) Long-Range Aircraft - Standard

(25) Heavy Bombers - Standard

(15) Shipyards- cheaper naval costs (minus one SS, TRS, DD, minus two CA, CV, BB)

(10) Super subs- Standard

(15) Jet fighters- The attack value of your fighters is now 4 instead of 3, there defense is 5 instead of 4.

One thing that I feel would be neat but not sure, reduce transport costs significantly, maybe as low as 3 or 4, but have them destroyed after offloading into an enemy territory, or exceeding a territories IPC value (so if I unload 2 transports with 4 units in Karelia I would lose 1 transport).  I hope maybe there’s a good idea or two in that list heh.

I love alot of the rules on this page, some not so much. I have been working on my own house rules latley and came up with an Idea to have national advantage charts that each player must roll on, but it apears that looking at this thread, alot of my ideas are not so original. I have been reading the house rules thread alot and i Realize that most of the best rule alternatives and additions have been thought of already. So when I post my house rules, most of them will look familiar as I am scavaging what I believe to be the best and modifying some to make them better (IMO). I believe that creating house rules is half the fun of owning Axis and Allies.