Forgot about China but I don’t have time tonight. Probably won’t have time tomorrow until late evening US Central. You can take the turn for me and do Germany if you want.
Karl7 (Germany) vs. TGC (Allies) Europe '99, out of box game
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Round 1, Germany:
-2.45 in the Atlantic
-0.87 on the East Front
+1.47 in the ME/AfricaNet: -1.85
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 7 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Libya 1 fighter moved from Algeria to Libya 2 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 3 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 fighter moved from Finland to Baltic States 1 fighter moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 submarine moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in Libya Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry British defend with 1 armour Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in Libya, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour in Libya, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Libya 1 armour owned by the British lost in Libya Germans win, taking Libya from British with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 2 fighters and 4 infantry Russians defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 4 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland 1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to Greece 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 2 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 10 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from France to Eastern France 1 fighter moved from France to Germany 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 2 infantry moved from Germany to Eastern France 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Poland 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 fighters moved from Baltic States to Germany 1 fighter moved from Libya to Greece 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Greece 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Rumania 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia Place Units - Germans 7 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Danish Sea Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Baltic Sea Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.33 Germans regular : 1.17 British regular : 0.67 -
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from English Channel Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Danish Sea Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode British buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium British take Netherlands-Belgium from Germans 1 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France British take France from Germans 1 destroyer moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone British take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from Germans 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Syria to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 transport owned by the British lost in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -47 Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport Non Combat Move - British 1 armour moved from Canada to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 transport moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Syria to Iran 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Leningrad 1 aaGun moved from Canada to United States Place Units - British 5 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 25 PUs; end with 27 PUs 1 unit repaired.Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 2.33 British regular : -1.83 -
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 submarine moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone British take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from Germans 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Belorussia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Morocco Americans take Morocco from Germans 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Leningrad 1 destroyer moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone Combat - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans Place Units - Americans 3 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in United States 3 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUsUSA2.tsvg You lucky duck. That’s usually the end of the German transport at least…
Round 1, Germany:
-2.45 in the Atlantic
+0.61 on the East Front
+4.38 in the ME/AfricaNet: +2.54
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 5 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 20 armour, 5 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia 1 fighter moved from Poland to Belorussia 3 fighters moved from Germany to Belorussia 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 submarine moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern France to France 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to Netherlands-Belgium 1 infantry moved from Eastern France to France 1 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt Germans take Egypt from Middle_East 1 artillery moved from Greece to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Aegean Sea Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Crete to Aegean Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Aegean Sea Sea Zone to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Syria Germans take Syria from Middle_East 1 infantry moved from Germany to Netherlands-Belgium Combat - Germans Battle in Belorussia Germans attack with 20 armour, 5 artilleries, 4 fighters and 13 infantry Americans defend with 1 bomber; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 34 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Belorussia : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 5 artilleries, 4 fighters and 13 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 16/42 hits, 16.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 34 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 11/46 hits, 15.33 expected hits 11 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia 14 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 bomber owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Belorussia Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 5 artilleries, 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Belorussia, round 3 : 15/31 hits, 14.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 20 infantry in Belorussia, round 3 : 5/30 hits, 10.33 expected hits 3 artilleries owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia 15 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 fighters in Belorussia, round 4 : 12/26 hits, 12.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Belorussia, round 4 : 5/15 hits, 5.33 expected hits 2 artilleries owned by the Germans and 3 armour owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia 5 infantry owned by the Russians, 3 armour owned by the Russians and 4 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia Germans roll dice for 17 armour and 4 fighters in Belorussia, round 5 : 10/21 hits, 10.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 armour and 1 fighter in Belorussia, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia 1 fighter owned by the Russians and 2 armour owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 16 armour and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 106 Casualties for Germans: 4 armour, 5 artilleries and 13 infantry Casualties for Russians: 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 34 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 1 infantry owned by the Germans retreated to Poland Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans attack with 4 infantry Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 4 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 4 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 4 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 5 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 6 : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Battle in Netherlands-Belgium Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Netherlands-Belgium Germans win, taking Netherlands-Belgium from British with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in France Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in France, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in France Germans win, taking France from British with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Danish Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 submarine Russians defend with 1 transport Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Danish Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 transport in Danish Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Danish Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 transport in Danish Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Danish Sea Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 transport in Danish Sea Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Danish Sea Sea Zone Russians win with 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Germans 7 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 4 fighters moved from Belorussia to East Poland 1 fighter moved from Greece to Germany 1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone Place Units - Germans 5 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -8.50 Germans regular : -4.17 British regular : -1.00 Russians AA : -0.67Dice Statistics:
Total 1 was rolled 73 times 2 was rolled 88 times 3 was rolled 79 times 4 was rolled 86 times 5 was rolled 90 times 6 was rolled 87 times Average roll : 3.583 Median : 4.000 Variance : 0.420 Standard Deviation : 0.648 Total rolls : 503 Germans Combat 1 was rolled 47 times 2 was rolled 52 times 3 was rolled 48 times 4 was rolled 47 times 5 was rolled 55 times 6 was rolled 41 times Average roll : 3.462 Median : 3.000 Variance : 0.399 Standard Deviation : 0.632 Total rolls : 290 British Combat 1 was rolled 10 times 2 was rolled 7 times 3 was rolled 2 times 4 was rolled 11 times 5 was rolled 9 times 6 was rolled 13 times Average roll : 3.788 Median : 4.000 Variance : 1.438 Standard Deviation : 1.199 Total rolls : 52 Americans Combat 1 was rolled 1 times 2 was rolled 1 times 6 was rolled 1 times Average roll : 3.000 Median : 2.000 Variance : 0.750 Standard Deviation : 0.866 Total rolls : 3 Russians Combat 1 was rolled 15 times 2 was rolled 28 times 3 was rolled 29 times 4 was rolled 28 times 5 was rolled 26 times 6 was rolled 32 times Average roll : 3.747 Median : 4.000 Variance : 1.104 Standard Deviation : 1.051 Total rolls : 158 -
I took the 50/50, worked out.
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@Karl7 said in Karl7 (Germany) vs. TGC (Allies) Europe '99, out of box game:
I took the 50/50, worked out.
Yeah, I’m not surprised at the outcome but rather the fact that you took that. If the game is so imbalanced, why do it? 50/50 seems pretty balanced.
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Did I say it was imbalanced?
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you mean the game is generally considered imbalanced toward Axis, thus why risk it?
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Well, yes to both. Your older comments on this forum seem pretty clear. Or maybe you changed your mind since then?
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Ha! I remember that. This game never got the attention it deserved. You defeated me pretty handily last game. The allies have 40+ econ advantage which seems like doom in long run unless Germany can rush Moscow.
Well, I can be allies next game and see what happens
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@Karl7 sounds grand! The Germans will save their 12 IPC. Where do you want the allied 12?
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4 inf in Belorussia
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