Karl7 (Germany) vs. TGC (Allies) Europe '99, out of box game
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3d6: 5, 2, 6
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German sub returns fire (assuming the other submerges) [dice 1d6]
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1d6: 5
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Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from United States to Celtic Sea Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Celtic Sea Sea Zone British loiter and taunt; Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 transport Germans defend with 1 submarine Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Celtic Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Celtic Sea Sea Zone Americans win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Americans 2 infantry moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom Place Units - Americans 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in United States 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 45 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.33 Germans regular : -0.33 -
Round 1, Germany:
-2.45 in the Atlantic
-0.87 on the East Front
+1.47 in the ME/AfricaNet: -1.85
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 2
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 7 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Libya 1 fighter moved from Algeria to Libya 2 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 fighter moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R. 3 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 fighter moved from Finland to Baltic States 1 fighter moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 submarine moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in Libya Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry British defend with 1 armour Germans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 destroyer in Libya, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Libya, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour in Libya, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Libya 1 armour owned by the British lost in Libya Germans win, taking Libya from British with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 2 fighters and 4 infantry Russians defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 4 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 1.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans roll dice for 2 fighters and 3 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 2/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to East Poland 1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to Greece 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hungary to East Poland 2 infantry moved from Rumania to Bessarabia 10 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from France to Eastern France 1 fighter moved from France to Germany 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 2 infantry moved from Germany to Eastern France 1 fighter moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Poland 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 2 fighters moved from Baltic States to Germany 1 fighter moved from Libya to Greece 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Greece 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Rumania 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia Place Units - Germans 7 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Danish Sea Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Baltic Sea Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Turning off Edit ModeCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -0.33 Germans regular : 1.17 British regular : 0.67 -
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - British Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from English Channel Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Danish Sea Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode British buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to Netherlands-Belgium British take Netherlands-Belgium from Germans 1 infantry moved from English Channel Sea Zone to France British take France from Germans 1 destroyer moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to British Convoy 4 Sea Zone British take British Convoy 4 Sea Zone from Germans 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Syria to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Belorussia to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British and 1 transport owned by the British lost in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone British roll dice for 1 bomber and 1 fighter in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 bomber owned by the British and 1 fighter owned by the British lost in Central Mediterranean Sea Zone Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -47 Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport Non Combat Move - British 1 armour moved from Canada to Davis Strait Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 transport moved from Davis Strait Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Syria to Iran 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Leningrad 1 aaGun moved from Canada to United States Place Units - British 5 infantry placed in United Kingdom Turn Complete - British British collect 25 PUs; end with 27 PUs 1 unit repaired.Combat Hit Differential Summary :
Germans regular : 2.33 British regular : -1.83 -
Game History
Round: 2 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 submarine moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to British Convoy 3 Sea Zone British take British Convoy 3 Sea Zone from Germans 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Belorussia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United States to U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to South Atlantic Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from South Atlantic Sea Zone to Morocco Americans take Morocco from Germans 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from Celtic Sea Sea Zone to English Channel Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Leningrad 1 destroyer moved from U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone to Celtic Sea Sea Zone Combat - Americans Non Combat Move - Americans Place Units - Americans 3 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in United States 3 transports placed in U.S. Eastern Coast Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 41 PUs; end with 41 PUsUSA2.tsvg You lucky duck. That’s usually the end of the German transport at least…
Round 1, Germany:
-2.45 in the Atlantic
+0.61 on the East Front
+4.38 in the ME/AfricaNet: +2.54
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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 3
TripleA Turn Summary for game: Europe Improved
Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 5 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 20 armour, 5 artilleries and 13 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia 1 fighter moved from Poland to Belorussia 3 fighters moved from Germany to Belorussia 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine S.S.R. 2 infantry moved from Rumania to Ukraine S.S.R. 1 submarine moved from Baltic Sea Sea Zone to Danish Sea Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern France to France 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Germany to Netherlands-Belgium 1 infantry moved from Eastern France to France 1 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt Germans take Egypt from Middle_East 1 artillery moved from Greece to Central Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Aegean Sea Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Crete to Aegean Sea Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from Aegean Sea Sea Zone to Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern Mediterranean Sea Zone to Syria Germans take Syria from Middle_East 1 infantry moved from Germany to Netherlands-Belgium Combat - Germans Battle in Belorussia Germans attack with 20 armour, 5 artilleries, 4 fighters and 13 infantry Americans defend with 1 bomber; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 34 infantry Russians roll AA dice in Belorussia : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 5 artilleries, 4 fighters and 13 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 16/42 hits, 16.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 34 infantry in Belorussia, round 2 : 11/46 hits, 15.33 expected hits 11 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia 14 infantry owned by the Russians, 1 bomber owned by the Russians and 1 bomber owned by the Americans lost in Belorussia Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 5 artilleries, 4 fighters and 2 infantry in Belorussia, round 3 : 15/31 hits, 14.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 20 infantry in Belorussia, round 3 : 5/30 hits, 10.33 expected hits 3 artilleries owned by the Germans and 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia 15 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia Germans roll dice for 20 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 fighters in Belorussia, round 4 : 12/26 hits, 12.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Belorussia, round 4 : 5/15 hits, 5.33 expected hits 2 artilleries owned by the Germans and 3 armour owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia 5 infantry owned by the Russians, 3 armour owned by the Russians and 4 artilleries owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia Germans roll dice for 17 armour and 4 fighters in Belorussia, round 5 : 10/21 hits, 10.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 armour and 1 fighter in Belorussia, round 5 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Germans lost in Belorussia 1 fighter owned by the Russians and 2 armour owned by the Russians lost in Belorussia Germans win, taking Belorussia from Russians with 16 armour and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 106 Casualties for Germans: 4 armour, 5 artilleries and 13 infantry Casualties for Russians: 5 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 34 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 1 infantry owned by the Germans retreated to Poland Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans attack with 4 infantry Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 4 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 1/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 4 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 4 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 3 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 5 : 0/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 6 : 1/2 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine S.S.R., round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine S.S.R. Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Battle in Netherlands-Belgium Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Netherlands-Belgium, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Netherlands-Belgium Germans win, taking Netherlands-Belgium from British with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in France Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in France, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in France, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in France Germans win, taking France from British with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Danish Sea Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 submarine Russians defend with 1 transport Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Danish Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 transport in Danish Sea Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Danish Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 transport in Danish Sea Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in Danish Sea Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 transport in Danish Sea Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in Danish Sea Sea Zone Russians win with 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8 Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Germans 7 armour moved from Germany to East Poland 4 fighters moved from Belorussia to East Poland 1 fighter moved from Greece to Germany 1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from Central Mediterranean Sea Zone to Western Mediterranean Sea Zone Place Units - Germans 5 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 46 PUs; end with 46 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Russians regular : -8.50 Germans regular : -4.17 British regular : -1.00 Russians AA : -0.67Dice Statistics:
Total 1 was rolled 73 times 2 was rolled 88 times 3 was rolled 79 times 4 was rolled 86 times 5 was rolled 90 times 6 was rolled 87 times Average roll : 3.583 Median : 4.000 Variance : 0.420 Standard Deviation : 0.648 Total rolls : 503 Germans Combat 1 was rolled 47 times 2 was rolled 52 times 3 was rolled 48 times 4 was rolled 47 times 5 was rolled 55 times 6 was rolled 41 times Average roll : 3.462 Median : 3.000 Variance : 0.399 Standard Deviation : 0.632 Total rolls : 290 British Combat 1 was rolled 10 times 2 was rolled 7 times 3 was rolled 2 times 4 was rolled 11 times 5 was rolled 9 times 6 was rolled 13 times Average roll : 3.788 Median : 4.000 Variance : 1.438 Standard Deviation : 1.199 Total rolls : 52 Americans Combat 1 was rolled 1 times 2 was rolled 1 times 6 was rolled 1 times Average roll : 3.000 Median : 2.000 Variance : 0.750 Standard Deviation : 0.866 Total rolls : 3 Russians Combat 1 was rolled 15 times 2 was rolled 28 times 3 was rolled 29 times 4 was rolled 28 times 5 was rolled 26 times 6 was rolled 32 times Average roll : 3.747 Median : 4.000 Variance : 1.104 Standard Deviation : 1.051 Total rolls : 158 -
I took the 50/50, worked out.
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@Karl7 said in Karl7 (Germany) vs. TGC (Allies) Europe '99, out of box game:
I took the 50/50, worked out.
Yeah, I’m not surprised at the outcome but rather the fact that you took that. If the game is so imbalanced, why do it? 50/50 seems pretty balanced.
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Did I say it was imbalanced?
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you mean the game is generally considered imbalanced toward Axis, thus why risk it?
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Well, yes to both. Your older comments on this forum seem pretty clear. Or maybe you changed your mind since then?
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