I just noticed that the PtV map is quite different than OOB! I thought just there are just rules differences like in BM. Ha!
Might take till tomorrow until I found out bid and first turn.
L24 BM FlyingBadger (Axis) vs Zarhunter (Allies+15) #5
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@FlyingBadger
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 mech_infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to 5 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Amur 1 artillery moved from Sakha to Amur 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Buryatia to Ulaanbaatar Japanese take Ulaanbaatar from Russians 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Ulaanbaatar to Central Mongolia 2 infantry moved from Chahar to Central Mongolia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java 2 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Malaya to Burma 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Java 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 22 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to 34 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Malaya to India 3 fighters moved from Yunnan to India Combat - Japanese Air Battle in India Japanese attacks with 4 units heading to India UK_Pacific launches 3 interceptors out of India Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets Strategic bombing raid in India Bombing raid in India rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in India causes 3 damage total. Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport ANZAC defend with 1 transport Japanese win with 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in Burma Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Burma from UK_Pacific with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Java Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber ANZAC defend with 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Battle in 34 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 destroyer Japanese win with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Battle in 22 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 destroyer Japanese win with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Battle in Amur Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Amur from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Central Mongolia Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Central Mongolia from Russians with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Cleaning up after air battles Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan 1 armour moved from Shantung to Hunan 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan 3 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Shan State to Yunnan 2 fighters moved from India to Yunnan 1 bomber moved from India to Burma 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Burma to Malaya 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 4 transports moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 37 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry placed in Malaya 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Shantung 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry placed in Japan 2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 66 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 69 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 74 PUs -
@FlyingBadger
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@zarhunter said in L24 BM FlyingBadger (Axis) vs Zarhunter (Allies+15) #5:
need new dice
If I may be so bold, I have some observations about your attacks. Please ignore these comments if you do not find them helpful.
You can sometimes be a little lighter in your attacks than I would be, also you sometimes lack cheaper cannon fodder in the attacking units to absorb hits. These can result in attacks being more vulnerable to poor dice early in the battle and therefore more costly.
There’s always a balance of risk verses reward, and high risk / high reward attacks of opportunity can be worth it, but generally in A&A it is better to go for attacks with overwhelming odds in your favour, even if it means making fewer attacks.
If you can preserve more of the attacking units, they are better able to resist any counter attack and will have better odds in subsequent battles. Also, it can take time to get replacement units to the front line, especially on offense.
I’m an average A&A player, if that, but maybe you will find something of use in these words.
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Game History
Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 3 destroyers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 93 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 4 artilleries, 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 bomber moved from Bulgaria to Bryansk 2 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk Combat - Italians Battle in 93 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 destroyer and 5 fighters Americans defend with 1 submarine Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 5 fighters in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 93 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Italians lost in 93 Sea Zone 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 93 Sea Zone Italians win with 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Battle in Trans-Jordan Italians attack with 4 artilleries, 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry British defend with 1 armour Italians roll dice for 4 artilleries, 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 4/16 hits, 4.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the British lost in Trans-Jordan Italians win, taking Trans-Jordan from British with 4 artilleries, 11 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 armour Battle in Bryansk Italians attack with 2 armour and 1 bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 armour and 1 bomber in Bryansk, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Italians win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 2 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from Bryansk to Bulgaria 3 aaGuns moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 3 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 2 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone Place Units - Italians 3 destroyers placed in 95 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,2 Italians collect 14 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 14 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 19 PUsCombat Hit Differential Summary :
Americans regular : 0.83 Italians regular : 1.50 Russians regular : -0.33 British regular : -0.50 -
I try to get max effort for the smallest price and then play the odds. That is what happens41210_round5_franzac.tsvg when you walk that fine line. Thank you for the observations, I welcome them as I try to improve
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@zarhunter Intercept?
41210_round6_germany-combat.tsvg
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@zarhunter This post has some useful guidance, it is focused on OOB for unit evaluation, but the principles are sound for BM as well as PtV.
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35286/warfare-principles-of-axis-allies-by-andrewaagamer -
No Intercept
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Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 8 armour and 10 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Rostov 1 armour moved from Belarus to Rostov 1 mech_infantry moved from Belarus to Rostov 3 bombers moved from Western Ukraine to Russia 2 fighters moved from Novgorod to Russia 1 fighter moved from Belarus to Russia 1 fighter moved from Belarus to Russia 2 tactical_bombers moved from Belarus to Smolensk 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Ukraine to Smolensk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Smolensk 2 fighters moved from Western Ukraine to Russia 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk Combat - Germans Air Battle in Russia Germans attacks with 9 units heading to Russia Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets Strategic bombing raid in Russia Bombing raid in Russia rolls: 4,7,5 and causes: 13 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Russia causes 13 damage total. Battle in Smolensk Germans attack with 1 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans win with 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Rostov Germans attack with 9 armour and 11 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 9 armour and 11 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Cleaning up after air battles Non Combat Move - Germans 3 aaGuns, 5 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 3 bombers and 6 fighters moved from Russia to Bryansk 2 artilleries, 10 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Bryansk 5 tactical_bombers moved from Smolensk to Bryansk 4 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Bryansk 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Bryansk 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Bryansk 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Rostov 2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 2 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 124 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from France to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from France to Northern Italy 3 aaGuns moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy Place Units - Germans 1 bomber placed in Western Germany 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany 3 artilleries placed in Ukraine 3 armour placed in Novgorod Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs -
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@zarhunter Scramble?
41210_round6_japan-combat.tsvg
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@FlyingBadger
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Japanese subs roll 3 hits. Casualties?
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@FlyingBadger
take casualties as normal -
Game History
Round: 6 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Central Mongolia to Kansu Japanese take Tsagaan Olom from Russians 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 41 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 42 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to Sumatra 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to 33 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 17 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 23 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Japan to 33 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 37 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 bomber and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to 33 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Americans scrambles 3 units out of Caroline Islands to defend against the attack in 33 Sea Zone Battle in 41 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 transport British defend with 1 transport Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for British: 1 transport Battle in Sumatra Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine Americans defend with 1 submarine Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Battle in Kansu Japanese attack with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry Chinese defend with 1 fighter Japanese win, taking Kansu from Chinese with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter Battle in 33 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 8 fighters, 4 submarines and 7 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 transports; ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Americans and 1 battleship owned by the Americans Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese Japanese win with 2 battleships, 1 bomber, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 7 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 142 Casualties for Japanese: 3 destroyers, 3 fighters and 4 submarines Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 transports Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Marianas 4 tactical_bombers moved from 33 Sea Zone to Marianas 2 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to Marianas 1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Jehol 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Amur to Ulaanbaatar 2 infantry moved from Central Mongolia to Ulaanbaatar 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei 1 infantry moved from Hopei to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 2 mech_infantrys moved from Shantung to Kweichow 1 armour moved from Hunan to Yunnan 1 aaGun moved from Hopei to Anhwe 1 mech_infantry moved from Malaya to Yunnan 1 marine moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya 2 transports moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 41 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Sumatra to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Shantung 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Malaya 3 fighters placed in Japan 2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 65 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs -
another pacific fleet pathing error, I lose more games that way and I just cant seem to fix that oversight.
Scramble?
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@zarhunter said in L24 BM FlyingBadger (Axis) vs Zarhunter (Allies+15) #5:
Scramble?
Yes, all 3.
Let me choose the Italian casualties please, I may make different decisions depending on how the dice land.
another pacific fleet pathing error, I lose more games that way and I just cant seem to fix that oversight.
It can be difficult to anticipate all the possible air units which can be brought into an attack when there are lots of islands and carriers around as potential landing spots. I’ve lost many a USN fleet in the Pacific because I failed to account fully for all the Japanese air units. You can always use a Local Game, to skip through to the opponeents turn and play around with their units to see what is possible.
The Caroline Islands are a double edged sword, they are a powrful central location which give attack options across a very wide area, but this also means that they can be attacked from a lot of places too. Both the Axis and Allies have adjacent islands which can be used to land the air units which start closeby, freeing up the carriers to pick up planes coming from far away.
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@FlyingBadger
subs are working for both of us now
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